the crowd on raw last night

the sunbabe wan

WTF????? were they dead or what:rolleyes:

Vince135792003

Yeah so I heard. It apparently hurt the ECW stuff pretty bad.

It was in Anaheim and ever since I've been watching wrestling its always been pretty dead in terms of atmosphere when they go there especially since they often get good events.

The Bret Hart v Shawn Michaels Iron match was there and apparently a good deal of them left (seemily 40% according to Meltzer) before the match even ended and even then the people that were there were really quiet.

Plus California is not a place ECW really got over in.

Fozzy

The ECW stuff especially, I just don't think it gets over with the majority of WWE fans. Tommy Dreamer did a lot for ECW, and any ECW fan would practically worship him, but I'd say a lot of the fans at Raw just remember him as the jobber on Raw who drank toilet water

Vince135792003

Fozzy wrote:

The ECW stuff especially, I just don't think it gets over with the majority of WWE fans. Tommy Dreamer did a lot for ECW, and any ECW fan would practically worship him, but I'd say a lot of the fans at Raw just remember him as the jobber on Raw who drank toilet water

Thats true on Dreamer. He was just a glorified jobber in the WWE. Its hard to get people to care about jobbers.

But geography matters too. They would have cared alot more if it had been in New York, Chicago, Philadelphia etc...

RVD420

I noticed that about the crowd too. I record Raw live, but this week, thanks to the axe to the face known as NTL Digital, it froze and all I got for the last 30 mins was a black screen!
When that "Arrrrrmando yada yada Essstrrrrada" comes out saying "My name is Arrrmando....", I really hope one week The Rock returns and gives it an "It doesn't matter what your name is!" Seeing as they were in California I was hoping, but no dice. He said recently he may return, but for what capacity? Also being half samoan could set him up for a feud with Umaga? Wishful thinking maybe....

cookie dough 61

^^ Very wishful thinking, Id say. Plus if/when The Rock does come back, he won't go anywhere near Umaga. If it was to happen,I'd say he'd go against Orton (3rd generation against 3rd generation). But who knows...??!

Back on topic, I think to be fair to the crowd, Raw was a bit of a dud. At least I thought so. Only two matches (4-way IC dance & the main event) were worth a mention. And they were well into theses matches... even if they didnt chant ECW as RVD requested.

Fozzy

I daknow..Rock and Umaga are cousins, so if Umaga started gettin over, Rock might like to help get him over a bit more if he were to come back for a while. Although I can't really see him gettin over enough for Rock to get involved

I was watchin Raw live, but I actually got a bit fed up by main event time. I switched it back to see what the story was, and with the screen blank, I felt justified!

I was watchin Unlimited too, Vince said that he has a crazy idea for "RDV" next week

RVD420

Interesting:

from wrestlezone:

At last night's Smackdown tapings in San Diego, CA, there was a new t-shirt featuring The Rock. The front of the t-shirt read, "How Long Of A Time Its Been" and the back of the t-shirt read, "It Doesn't Matter How Long Of A Time Its Been!"

http://www.wrestlezone.com/article.php?articleid=149302330

Sorry for straying from the original topic btw.