Muti-tabling

ocallagh

I've tried playing 2 tables and the following problems occur:
edit: 6 player cash games @ 2/4, 3/6 and 5/10

1. I focus more on one table than the other.
2. I end up check/calling more often as I don't have time to act.
3. I get stressed by too many decisions!!
4. The endless re-focusing of tables pisses me off.
5. I find I go on tilt easier.
6. I can't get decent reads on other players.
7. I don't take as many opportunities to use position

Anyone else come across the same issues? Or have you been able to deal with any of the above things.. Is there a secret to multi tabling? Should I just accept that my standard of play will drop if I decide to multi table?

kickintheteeth

i completely agree, don't know how anyone can multitable, and win. especially with cash games, mite get away with it playing a Mtt.

also find when im just about to press a button on one table, the other pops up and ive just called a big raise with crap!

AmarilloFats

hi ocallagh,
this article is from 2+2 magazine..
http://www.twoplustwo.com/magazine/current/paquet0506.html

I find if I play one table for 10/15 mins then u have some reads and PT stats then fir up a second etc......
I am working on bringing a 4th into the equation.. I think it might be a bridge too far....
I agree with all of your points but I still found moving from 1 to 2 and from 2 to 3 tables profitable...

GL

Lafortezza

I can 6 table full ring Omaha, and 5 table 6max Omaha, it just take practice.
Admittedly this is at low (25/50PL and 50/$1PL) limits, and I'm playing at various ranges of auto-pilot, but it's surprising how much info you can take once you play several thousand hands and get used to it.

MadsL

I can 6 table full ring Omaha, and 5 table 6max Omaha,

:eek: :eek: :eek:

my head hurts

TacT

agree that it's just practice but I find it gets too messy above 3 for myself. I can just about take 4 but I'm very comfortable with 2 or 3 and don't find there is any need for more than that.

Hectorjelly

its just practice, once youve played 2 tables for a while youll wonder how 1 game ever kept your interest.

RoundTower

You should have played more video games as a kid.

ocallagh

thanks for the advice! I agree it is probably patience and practice more than anything. I think I'll get a new monitor (24") to play on in my room. That way I'll focus more and be able to have 2/3 or even 4 tables without overlapping.


That article was great AmarilloFats. I also like your idea of playing one table for 15 minutes before opening a second.


The following tweak from that article sounds very promising.. I hate re-focusing a table by clicking on it.. as I usually click on something I'm not meant to!! (Host-Mark will tell you all about it!)

quote about TweakUI from article:
"This program was designed to alter many functions in your Windows environment, but our interest is solely in the X-mouse alteration. TweakUI can be programmed to bring tables to the foreground by simply putting your cursor over them, dramatically reducing the number of clicks required. It also relieves most of the "click-button-4-times-before-it-actually-works" syndrome."

fuzzbox

ocallagh .. what site are you playing on? I know you can turn of the re-focusing crap on PPP, because that would annoy the hell out of me too, but I turned it off and its not so bad.

As for only playing 1 table .... I get really bored playing only one and find even more reasons than normal to raise 74s utg. This is bad for me.

If you have trouble playing lots of tables - then start out playing 1 6-max tasble, and add 1 full-ring table too. You need to play much tighter in full-ring, so you can often play on auto-pilot on that table while you get used to it.

Pretty soon you are a 9-tabling monster making 1212321232123211 per hour.

You wont have any friends, but you will have lots of money .

ocallagh

fuzzbox wrote:

what site are you playing on?

Prima. You can make the tables miniature.. but i haven't got used to that. Prima is weird. It re-focuses at odd times.. you'll fold pre-flop.. but then when player X bets on the flop it pops the fekin window back up!! lol.. and then sometimes when you have a decision to make it forgets to re-focus and the window silently times you out...

Windows should have an over-ride option to stop ANY application from taking the focus.

fuzzbox wrote:

9-tabling monster

LMAO! I have an image of the cookie monster playing like a lunatic... probably because of this video i got in an email earlier.. you gotta love family guy.

Lafortezza

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=inet&Number=5714823&page=1&fpart=all

Dub13

I multi table on different sites,its only a small thing but it helps me a lot.I normally play Stars,VBP and Betfair.

MrPillowTalk

I find it very bad for my game to multi table but I play more hands than most and dont really like playing on auto pilot.

If I multi then I usually do like fuzz says playing one full ring and one 6 max. I find I can multi a mtt and a cash table quite easily.

On prima it wont refocus on your turn if you are last to act i.e. usually if your bb, or at least thats the way it used to be, it used to really annoy me.

Laff you must have a computer for a brain playing that many omaha tables!!

Lafortezza

MrPillowTalk wrote:

Laff you must have a computer for a brain playing that many omaha tables!!

I just re-read my post, I don't play six full and five 6max tables at the same time!!!
The most I've ever played at once is 8 and that was managable, just, but not fun by a long shot. Also PLO is slower than hold'em cash games in hands per hour.

White Knight

I have seen the bro multi table 13 mtts but that was for a particular reason and he was physically exhausted after that. He won 2 of them (1 had 1300+ players) and cashed in 2 more.

I like a mix of 1 mtt, 1 stt and either a 6 handed holdem or a plo cash game

BrokenArrows

multitabling on PPP is a pain the the hole especially with the speakers on.

All at once tables start pinging its really annoying.

With all-in its fine cause the screen just flashes.

PPP just makes you panic with all the ping ping ping

Imposter

BrokenArrows wrote:

multitabling on PPP is a pain the the hole especially with the speakers on.

All at once tables start pinging its really annoying.

With all-in its fine cause the screen just flashes.

PPP just makes you panic with all the ping ping ping

And don't try using the hotkeys if you've more than one table open!

roryc

the only reason i still play online is because i stopped multitabling over 3 tables. Takes a lot of practise

ianmc38

I've 4-tabled a few times at low limits, but find they move way too fast. When using pokerace it's ok because you have every villains stats appear at their seat. i also have continuation bet and folded blind to steal stats in alongside the default ones. makes a huge difference. I can comfortably 2 or 3 table. 1 tabling is painful.

jimbling

Imposter wrote:

And don't try using the hotkeys if you've more than one table open!

oh... so many times... so many times :mad:

fuzzbox wrote:

ocallagh .. what site are you playing on? I know you can turn of the re-focusing crap on PPP

well heres a turn for the better... how do you do this? I looked through the options before and never spotted it?

fuzzbox

Enable Table pop-up to front (uncheck this).

cardshark202

lafortezza wrote:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=inet&Number=5714823&page=1&fpart=all

I've now decided that I want at least three of these. Damn!

jimbling

fuzzbox wrote:

Enable Table pop-up to front (uncheck this).

lol... wtf.. how'd i miss that :rolleyes:

smurph

lafortezza wrote:

I can 6 table full ring Omaha, and 5 table 6max Omaha, it just take practice.
Admittedly this is at low (25/50PL and 50/$1PL) limits, and I'm playing at various ranges of auto-pilot, but it's surprising how much info you can take once you play several thousand hands and get used to it.

OMG thats unreal, I play max two tables, and thats it. What do you do to relax, run the odd marathon or two?

jacQues

smurph wrote:

OMG thats unreal, I play max two tables, and thats it. What do you do to relax, run the odd marathon or two?

A regular here in the Internet café, who is a very good player, gets bored when there aren't enough PPP tourneys on. When there are only two he opens a ring game and starts surfing the net as well. Sometimes he plays two sit and goes in addition to two multi-table tourneys. Just looking at him play makes me dizzy. When he goes for a smoke he sometimes asks me to take over. I usually just fold fold fold fold hey premium hand; all-in! fold fold fold fold... lol Well, not quite, but it goes too fast for me. He gets in the money about 30% of the time, we're talking ~$10 multi-table rebuy tourneys here. :cool:

Another customer, a good player and also a dealer. He plays Jewels (or Bejeweled or something) all day long, while playing one or two Boyle tables. Sometimes it seems as if he is really addicted to Jewels and uses poker to pay for that addiction.

Both those customers told me that it is actually better (for them at least) to multi-table. Since then they won't play crap hands because they feel they don't get enough play. In other words, if they would single-table, they start playing medioker hands because of sheer boredom.

I can multi-table, but at a terrible cost. One table and I'm good, two tables and I'm average, three tables and I'm crap etc. So I gave that up very quickly.

jacQues

Marq

that 30" monitor. Christ.

MrPillowTalk

If you do multi table it is a very good idea to link up a second monitor this stops having tables popping up etc.

Dont use the mini view on prima Niall I found you lose more than you gain I found it very difficult to keep up with whats going on the screen is so small.

ocallagh

MrPillowTalk wrote:

If you do multi table it is a very good idea to link up a second monitor this stops having tables popping up etc.

Dont use the mini view on prima Niall I found you lose more than you gain I found it very difficult to keep up with whats going on the screen is so small.

yep - i tried it the night before last and had one of my worst sessions of the year... Ihad 4 windows open but only played at 2... When you see some of the mini applications people can design, winamp skins etc.. you wonder how the fcuk the designers employed by poker companies are still in the job!

FastMachine

ocallagh wrote:

I've tried playing 2 tables and the following problems occur:
edit: 6 player cash games @ 2/4, 3/6 and 5/10

1. I focus more on one table than the other.
2. I end up check/calling more often as I don't have time to act.
3. I get stressed by too many decisions!!
4. The endless re-focusing of tables pisses me off.
5. I find I go on tilt easier.
6. I can't get decent reads on other players.
7. I don't take as many opportunities to use position

Anyone else come across the same issues? Or have you been able to deal with any of the above things.. Is there a secret to multi tabling? Should I just accept that my standard of play will drop if I decide to multi table?

I think it's just a matter of getting used to it. Drop down in stakes and practice it with less pressure. You should definately be able to do 2 tables in a short space of time. Don't have a negative frame of mind when you're trying to learn it as this will affect your play and may be contributing to your problems. Yes, you'll have more decisions and less time to make them but in time it will be second nature to you. Maybe play a bit tighter for a while and loosen up as you get better at it/more used to it.

Your standard of play will probably suffer a bit no matter what while you're still getting the hang of it but you'll be playing twice as many hands so it should be more still be profitable. Eventually you should be playing multiple tables as easily as one, or more easily if you factor in the reduced boredom and variance.

Bandana boy

Any less than 2 and i am bored and start getting stupid
3 is perfect as long as i dont get into conversations
Trying to follow 3 conversations as well as play a little too much

4 i find dificult but working on it