Instructors you'd love to train with...

Baggio...

If you had a choice of training with 5 instructors past and present, who would they be? (Regardless of style, and assuming you could build a time machine or find a wormhole;) )

Mine would be:
1)Carl Cestari
2)W.E. Fairbairn
3)Kelly Mc Cann
4)Dermot “Pat” O'Neil
5)Geoff Thompson

Cheers,

B.

Millionaire

1. Geoff Thompson
2. Lee Morrison
3. Carl Cestari
4. Paul Vunak
5. Rich Dimitri Senshido
6. BRUCE LEE

Baggio...

I would not mind adding those guys to my list as well.:)

Vunak is one of the most talented Martial Artists that I have ever seen. We all know how good Bruce was.

dlofnep

Marcelo Garcia.
Freddie Roach.
Randy Couture.
Duane Ludwig

Im2Lazy

1. Eyal Yanilov
2. Krishnia Godhania
3. Bas Rutten
4. Royler Gracie
5. Ramon Dekkers

The first 2 I'll more than likely get to train with at some stage, the other 3 are the fantasy.

Baggio...

Hey Mate,

Yeah, I guess all mine are pretty unrealistic to (obviously the guys that have passed on:( ). I'd love to train with Carl Cestari. but he seems to have disappeared off the face of the planet. If he or Kelly Mc Cann were ever to hold a seminar again I'd split over (better start saving now though). Although, I'm not sure if Mc Cann is still teaching, now that he's the vice president of Kroll security. But I will definitely go to one of Geoff's seminars in Coventry at some point.

I would not mind training with Amir Perets either! Bas would be great to!

Later,

B.

Baggio...

It's never just 5 is it:) . There are just too many to mention.

Another guy I'd love to train with is Boxing coach "Chris Gets". As far as I know he trained Bas Rutton for a bit (Well, Bas rates him very highly anyway). He's a brilliant instructor.

Millionaire

Im2Lazy wrote:

1.5. Ramon Dekkers

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Two champs from my camp fought and beat Deeker...

one being Nampon !

Their advice, Their Secret Techniques, Tricks....

Sorry to say None!!!!!

Just keep training, hitting the bags, the padman, spar, run, clinch,
daily and consistently! good old hard work!

And I have to keep reminding myself of that, when I get bored!

RealJohn

I'd like a go at TKD's General Choi, but in an MMA type of training environment. Just to see.

mark.leonard

RealJohn wrote:

I'd like a go at TKD's General Choi, but in an MMA type of training environment. Just to see.

in a zombie movie?

Tim_Murphy

in a zombie movie?

LOL:D

Musashi

I'd like a go at TKD's General Choi, but in an MMA type of training environment. Just to see.

He might get you drunk while playing cards and flog the head off you when you'r not expecting it though..........allegedly? :eek:

pma-ire

I know some of these are dead!!! But... (and in no particular order)

Dan Inosanto

Benny Urquidez

Remy Presas (founder of Modern Arnis)

Millionare

Dave Joyce

Rickson Gracie

O Sensei Morihei Ueshiba

Professor Jigoro Kano

O Sensei Gichin Funakoshi

Lee, Won Kuk (founder of the Chung Do Kwan)

Choi, Yong Sul (founder of Hapkido)

Dave Baker (founder of Aikoushin Kobujutsu)

Adam Merton (UK head of Shunryu Kempo)

Professor Wally Jay (founder of Small Circle Ju Jitsu)

Millionaire

Yipee Paul..Thank..to be mentioned among so many greats! ( i ll paypal you that €20 later...LOL!!!!)

Yeah Dan Inosanto.

and Benny The Jet...I have some real old 1980s vids of him teaching kickboxing....a tough little dude! at the end of the vid he gets down on his knees and thanks God... apparently him and his cousin ex 1980s fighter Blinky Rodegious (spelling?) are serious men for going to Mass.(serious!!)

Also I would love to train with some of those Old School Boxing trainers from years and year back, I don't know names of any...but I am sure some of you will know what I mean.

Baggio...

Speaking of Boxers...
I'd love to have trained with some of the old bareknuckle guys back in the day.

RealJohn

mark.leonard wrote:

in a zombie movie?

Well I assume he'd have been too fast for me if he was alive.:p

pma-ire

Millionaire wrote:

Benny The Jet...I have some real old 1980s vids of him teaching kickboxing....a tough little dude!

I've seen some of them when we had Kung Fu Korner I got to see a load of stuff for free

Roper

1- Zombie General Choi, but you have to chop his head off to kill him, and he walks like the zombies in resident evil, not like the quick ones in 28 days later.
2- Myself, just to see how good/bad it is to be coached by me. I'd have to wear a wig or something so I wouldn't recognise me, but I'm sure its possible if I combined the wig with a spanish accent.
3- The sort of coach who'd shout "FINISH HIM" in a competition. I've never had that. They've all been too nice.
4- Baggio, cos I really hurt my hand punching a wall this morning....

Baggio...

Roper,

Back to the books now, ya hear!;)

PS - if you ever want to train I'd be well up for it.

crazy monkey

Hi Guys

Sorry to ruin your fun but if you could fight any five fighters living or dead who would it be?
1] Bruce Lee
2] Bas Rutten
3] Ramon Dekkers
4] Rickson Gracie
5] Myself

I admit that each of these guys would absolutely destroy me but the ultimate challenge when training is to be the best "you" you can be....[sorry for the philosophical approach] and fighting yourself after fighting those guys would be a hell of a way to go!!!!!

yomchi

RealJohn wrote:

Well I assume he'd have been too fast for me if he was alive.:p

He was only a 1st degree in Shotokan Karate!

pantar_dubh

1) Two-time Olympic Gold medalist Lopez (2000 and 2004 Olympics).
2) Grand Master Fumio Demurra (sp?)... Former freestyle champion Japan.

john kavanagh

its funny comparing the answers given by 3 different groups to this question. 3 groups being athletes (running, jumping, throwing etc), combat athletes (boxing, judo, MMA etc) and then 'martial artists' (those training for self defence or 'spiritual' awareness).

i think its pretty obvious we all REALLY train for the same reason - fun, the enjoyment we get from our chosen training method and the fact it surrounds us with people who share our same 'world view', 'belief system' or however you want to put it.

i couldn't handle been around someone talking about ways to 'slice someone up' or 'rip some f**kers ear off' (as i heard in an instructional dvd the other day) anymore than they could stick been around someone talking about complex lifting v HIIT for lactate tolerance in combat athletes or skill development in 'brawl n sprawl'.

interesting stuff

if everybody looked the same, we'd get tired of looking at each other

Millionaire

john kavanagh wrote:

i couldn't handle been around someone talking about ways to 'slice someone up' or 'rip some f**kers ear off' (as i heard in an instructional dvd the other day)

if everybody looked the same, we'd get tired of looking at each other

whats DVD did that come from? "slice some up" thats sounds nasty?

I guess, people love say in training, to train and learn from people within their own area of interest.

Personally, even though I am interested in Basic RBSD stuff, CQC, it bores me to death
to listen to someone banging on and on about it. its something I emjoy to do, and fun
and indeed, I consider it a life skill (like swimming). go train hard, enjoy it, until the next time.

I remember doing security at some big weekend long concert gig, and I was on a team with these bodybuilders, and all weekend long , I had to listen to how much they could bench? how % body fat, ways to eat, how often they went to the loo for number 2s !!!!!!....

I suppose there were having a great time and to me it was pure misery!

still if it makes people happy. let them all at it!

john kavanagh

whats DVD did that come from? "slice some up" thats sounds nasty?

that didn't come from a DVD. but i have heard guys at seminar talking about slashing v stabbing techniques, how many concealed weapons they carry etc. not for me.

what i did hear was this

'rip some f**kers ear off' (as i heard in an instructional dvd the other day)

Roper

Lovely that ^

But hey John's right. You have Rugby, Soccer, GAA crowds, the most ardent supporters wouldn't be able to stand a conversation about the other. When they do talk, they understand that one is talking about a totally different sport or activity to the other. I think we need a bit of that recognition.

pma-ire

Roper wrote:

But hey John's right. You have Rugby, Soccer, GAA crowds, the most ardent supporters wouldn't be able to stand a conversation about the other. When they do talk, they understand that one is talking about a totally different sport or activity to the other. I think we need a bit of that recognition.

I thought we had??

Millionaire

john kavanagh wrote:

that didn't come from a DVD. but i have heard guys at seminar talking about slashing v stabbing techniques, how many concealed weapons they carry etc. not for me.

what i did hear was this

If i went into the house after work, and there was some
criminal raping my wife....

He'd be lucky if all he got off with was a ripped ear!
and I really mean that!

As for the conceal weapons stuff...unless your some sort
of special forces guy going on an actual operation...No Thanks!

Carry a knife, is a scary proposition, and will have bad ends.
Its bad karma...bad.

Roper

pma-ire wrote:

I thought we had??

LOL:D Check the thread on "Which discipline for me". I thought we had too!

To quote Rodney King (the LA guy!) "Why can't we all just get along?"
To me the techniques are all fairly much meaningless. Its the ideology and methods that seperate us, and that seems to be a bridge too far for some people to recognise.

john kavanagh

Millionaire wrote:

If i went into the house after work, and there was some
criminal raping my wife....

He'd be lucky if all he got off with was a ripped ear!
and I really mean that!

i'd imagine thats true for everyone gerry, but does it really have to be said? yes we know we'd do it if that situation arose but do we want to spend any time dwelling on it? plus the guy talking about 'ripping f**kers ears off' didnt give it any context, just pseudo macho nonsense unfortunately prevalent in all martial arts. childish anger masking deep rooted fear

Millionaire

yes your certainly right JK, it is certainly not something I would dwell on.
In fact, I was showing an american guy out here, a few basic combatives moves... nothing major, and now ever time I see him, I get an insufferabley boring run down of ever situation or potential situation he's been in....perhaps I will buy him a yoga DVD...looks like he needs it.!!!

I cannot stand that type of talk either! macho BS!!

Roper

Millionaire wrote:

If i went into the house after work, and there was some
criminal raping my wife....

He'd be lucky if all he got off with was a ripped ear!
and I really mean that!

Millionaire wrote:

I cannot stand that type of talk either! macho BS!!

LOL!:D

pma-ire

Roper wrote:

LOL:D Check the thread on "Which discipline for me". I thought we had too!

To quote Rodney King (the LA guy!) "Why can't we all just get along?"
To me the techniques are all fairly much meaningless. Its the ideology and methods that seperate us, and that seems to be a bridge too far for some people to recognise.

In reality Roper I admire all martial arts and artists.

On here the old guys had come to an understanding of where we were coming from. Then we got new posters and that went off on there own discovery and it all went pear shaped again! But discussion is good!

On that other thread I was just talking about something I had looked into on the subject we had ran into! Not bashing anyone, just looking at the thing from a different angle!!

Millionaire

Nope...thats not macho talk Roper...

Thats just a simple fact. if anyone violates my
personal freedoms with evil intentions, the evil
shall be snuffed out!

Getting rid of evil is Healthy!

Roper

Alright Batman, I dig. It was just a friendly swing at you

Millionaire

Roper wrote:

Alright Batman, I dig. It was just a friendly swing at you

Ouch...it hurt!!! LOL!

Damo W

http://www.tonyblauer.com/

Tony Blauer

Millionaire

I hear Blauer was good, but never saw his DVDs,
apparently senshido is a very similar, as rich dimitri
trained under blauer.

I read his articles... he got some good stuff.

Baggio...

Hey all,

I've seen the Blauer's “spear system 1&2”. Some of the concepts are pretty good, but from what I can see that there are better people doing better stuff now days. I think he's getting a bit left behind.

That said... he was one of the first guys out there at the time, and has influenced a lot of people. But personally I'd look to some of the more contemporary CQC guys.

Cheers,

B.

Millionaire

Blauers Micro fights look like a good idea , where the attacker wears that protectove suit.

They are designed to simulate a suddent street attack, and defender can defend full force, dirty tricks and all.

Now that idea, is bring SD training as close to the real thing as possible.

I read an article in blackbelt mag on this and it was very interesting.

Baggio...

Seems like a good plan alright, presume it's similar to the FAST course? I'd really like to do something like that at some point. Although I've heard poor reports regarding Blauer's fist suits. Apparently you can't go “all out”. Again, I've never used one, so I can't speak from experience.

One thing about Blauer – he's done some top notch research. Well worth checking out.

Cheers,

B.