Can I access RTE 1,2, TV3, TG4 from London?

antkeane1980

Hi there

I live in London, have a UK sky satellite receiver and disk and I would like to access the Irish Channels. Any suggestions? The receiver and disk are working properly I am already receiving the UK freeview channels.

I have been told that if I get an Irish subscription all I have to do is slot in the Irish viewing card into the UK Sky box and it will work? Do you know if this is true?

Many thanks

Greenman

antkeane1980 wrote:

I have been told that if I get an Irish subscription all I have to do is slot in the Irish viewing card into the UK Sky box and it will work? Do you know if this is true?

Thats it the Irish channels are not tied to the box!!!

Let us know how you get on!!!

BTW If you only want RTE etc get the 20 Euro package.

Get someone in IRL to all the sorting out!!!

Foggy43

RTE 1, 2, TV3 and TG4 are NOT available to viewers in the United Kingdom. As far as I am aware there are no plans to make them available.

Greenman sugested away which I think isn't legal and is a load of hassle. It really isn't worth the bother.

Mossy Monk

available in the UK, yes. but Northern Ireland only

available to Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland

not on any British subscription

Tony

Molly Dawson wrote:

RTE 1, 2, TV3 and TG4 are NOT available to viewers in the United Kingdom. As far as I am aware there are no plans to make them available.

Greenman sugested away which I think isn't legal and is a load of hassle. It really isn't worth the bother.

wheres the hassle? all you need is an Irish address and landline telephone number, I've done this for lots of people.

Foggy43

Hi Tony,
That is ok what you do and I'm sure you give your clients a list of 'do's' and 'don'ts.' My concern are people who use their Irish details and are not aware of how easily they could land themselves in some bother. Just say they decide they want Sky+ and ring Customer Services from their UK phone. Oh dear!

Hassle? I am annoyed why we in the UK have to go to such lengths to get the RTE's and TV3. From reading other threads on different subjects this 'why is it taking so long' comes up quite often when referring to getting something up and running in Ireland. RTE available without subscription? I still doubt it. If we set ourselves up here in the UK at our own expense then RTE need to do nothing.

One thing I will admit is being a little jealous as you on Sky Digital have the BBC and ITV channels available to you in the Irish Republic. You lucky sods can get them without a subscription, I think?

byte

Molly Dawson wrote:

One thing I will admit is being a little jealous as you on Sky Digital have the BBC and ITV channels available to you in the Irish Republic. You lucky sods can get them without a subscription, I think?

Yes, BBC and ITV all regions are Free To Air across UK and Ireland and some of Europe.

It's unlikely RTE will ever be FTA. What you could only hope for is a "Best Of.." type channel by RTE. They should never have closed Tara TV, in my opinion (I realise RTE didn't wholly own Tara, but when they pulled their programmes, there wasn't much else Tara could show).

Mossy Monk

Molly Dawson wrote:

Just say they decide they want Sky+ and ring Customer Services from their UK phone. Oh dear!

quite frankly if they do that then it is their own fault

Greenman

Molly Dawson wrote:

RTE 1, 2, TV3 and TG4 are NOT available to viewers in the United Kingdom. As far as I am aware there are no plans to make them available.

Greenman sugested away which I think isn't legal and is a load of hassle. It really isn't worth the bother.

If he wants it he'll do it, bother or not.

Here in Belgium I've had RTE etc on sat since they started on $ky. Before that I watched TARA on 34.5 degrees west.

Just a pity RTE don't have a FTV system, re legal I could be doing alot worse!!!

Foggy43

I presume it isn't legal or we would be able to get RTE here in the UK.

BUT

I understand there is another issue involving rights with programmes that BBC and ITV produce and are also shown on the Irish channels. I think these are broadcast at the same time. I think it involves the soaps that are shown between 7 and 9pm. Granada, I believe are a major player.

I suppose the best thing I could do is have an Irish subscription card for my own personnal use and not leave it in the 'box' when not in use.

Tony

Molly Dawson wrote:

I presume it isn't legal or we would be able to get RTE here in the UK.

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It is not illegal to watch RTE in the Uk on satellite when a sky subscription is paid.

rlogue

I'd be interested to know how many people are able to watch RTE etc. outside Ireland at the moment.

watty

Sky can't legally market an ROI sub in UK or ship a ROI card to a non-ROI address. But under UK, Irish and UK it is perfectly legitimate to use a leagally obtained and paid for ROI Sky sub anyplace in EU. And outside EU only the law of the country you use it in would apply (e.g. Morroco or better signal in Iceland, is Iceland outside EU? Is Greenland technically in it as they are Danish?)

atomcat

If you have an active ROI subscription just take your viewing card over with you and slot it in you satellite receiver. Channels aren't tied to the box...

L1011

watty wrote:

Is Greenland technically in it as they are Danish?)

They were but left. They're only as Danish as Canada is British at this stage.

DMC

Greenland left the EU (the then EEC) in 1985, the only country/landmass to do it. Greenland is more like the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man*, rather than Canada, in that it has home rule from Denmark, but some matters are left to the Danish government.



* no similar tax breaks though.

Sin e an Fear

There was a campaign run by the Irish Post to get an RTÉ channel for Britain, and there were ministers and TDs talking about extending RTÉ's remit, but nothing more has happened.

Interestingly, Danmarks Radio, the Danish public broadcaster, has cleared rights for all the Nordic countries, so that anyone in Sweden, Norway, Finland, and Iceland can subscribe to DR1 and DR2, either stand-alone, or as part of a satellite or cable package. TV2, the commercial channel, is still Denmark only. (Sweden's SVT, Norway's NRK, and Finland's YLE have repackaged international channels, similar to the old BBC TV Europe, and TARA.)

Perhaps RTÉ could do the same, and there ought to be a Scottish Gaelic version of TG4 - TeleG is just an hour long on DTT. TnaG used to show the Scottish soap Machair.

DMC wrote:

Greenland left the EU (the then EEC) in 1985, the only country/landmass to do it. Greenland is more like the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man*, rather than Canada, in that it has home rule from Denmark, but some matters are left to the Danish government.



* no similar tax breaks though.

Erm, no, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man are not part of the UK, and never have been. They have no seats in the House of Commons, whereas Greenland and the Faroe Islands still have seats in the Folketing. (Although Acts of Parliament relating to broadcasting do apply in the Crown Dependencies because of the ITV franchises, as does the BBC Charter).

The Faroe Islands already had Home Rule and voted to stay out of the EC in 1972. They also look set to be the first place in Europe to switch off analogue TV broadcasts - not bad going when you consider it was the last place in Europe to get TV, in 1984.

DMC

Sin e an Fear wrote:

Erm, no, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man are not part of the UK, and never have been. They have no seats in the House of Commons, whereas Greenland and the Faroe Islands still have seats in the Folketing. (Although Acts of Parliament relating to broadcasting do apply in the Crown Dependencies because of the ITV franchises, as does the BBC Charter).

Its a great topic, and we could go on for hours! Never said that they are part of the UK, but the comparison I was making is what you said, in that some matters such as defence, diplomacy etc, are looked after by the London government on behalf of the CI. Interesting stuff on the Faroes, didn't know they had TV that late, I always thought that we were one of the last countries to get TV, albeit for small archipelagoes.

Sin e an Fear

Sure, and the Faroes still speak their own language, although there's only only 40 000 of them Sjonvarp Foroya is the local channel, although they get BBC World, BBC Prime, CNN, Eurosport and MTV on UHF - and that's just analogue. The Isle of Man has more than 60 000 people, and they have to make do with snippets of news from BBC North West and ITV Border.

However, returning to the question in hand. I doubt whether RTÉ could show its channels in Britain without replacing a lot of acquired programming. Perhaps they could simulcast anything that the BBC or other UK channels showed at the same time, like EastEnders. That's what they do in Canada with US channels on cable - you can watch the Superbowl on NBC, but it'll be CTV's coverage, with Canadian advertising. However, tha's more to do with protecting Canada's culuture than it is to do with broadcasting rights.