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fuzzbox

Party 3/6 6-max
I have recently sat down at the table. I got stung for about 350 on a hand that I did not showdown already. Other than that, nothing much from me. I dont know anything about villain really, but he does have a big stack.

Stacks - me (BB) 600, villain (utg+1) 1500.

Preflop
Villain limps, sb completes, I check Qh5d.

Flop (18)
6c5c5s
SB check, I bet 15, villain calls, sb folds

Turn (48)
Qh
I bet 40, villain calls

River (128)
7s
I bet 100, villain makes it 350

Our survey says?

shoutman

Ahh, push all in. You do realise you have a full house.....

It would be mightily unlucky if he had been limping with sevens which is possible but I dont see why he would call the flop and turn bet with sevens.

cardshark202

His line looks like a house too but you're only really losing to 66 here or maybe 77. He could have 65 or 75 too. I guess call, pretty hard to fold a house in this spot.

Rnger

A5 is another realistic holding, I'm reluctantly calling

delanec8

Would he call all the way with 77? He would have raised preflop with QQ. Only hand beating you which he could have here is 66. i think maybe A5s,65s,75s. I push it in. He'll call you with all these hands. If he has 66 its unlucky.

I don't like calling because i think you make more from raising here than calling because i think you are ahead more often than not and he will call with hands you have beat

opr

Your Holding the Qh and the turn is the Qh ?

Before i make a decision - I would ask for the deck to be checked

shoutman

opr wrote:

Your Holding the Qh and the turn is the Qh ?

Before i make a decision - I would ask for the deck to be checked

HAHA well spotted.

fuzzbox

The Qh on the board, is a Q that is not a club.

opr

fuzzbox wrote:

The Qh on the board, is a Q that is not a club.

......... and not a heart ! And here was me thinking this really was a house of FUN

Rnger

delanec8 wrote:

Would he call all the way with 77?

I think he would. I would take a similar line to fuzz's with A6 except maybe check the river. A missed club draw could make this move on the river. Pushing here is better as delanec8 said, your ahead here enough of the time.

opr

To Answer the question. I think i would push as said above i think your winning here more often than not and a good chance of getting calls from worse hands.

Opr

Ste05

It certainly looks like he has 66, but I call anyway.

Lafortezza

If this was Omaha I would call, otherwise stick the rest in.

valor

Ship it

RoundTower

Push, it is only 200 more to him and he can be raising with all kinds of hands that you beat and that call a push. 89c, 57s, 56s, A5s. Yes he can also have 66 or 77 but I reckon you are beating more than 50% of his legitimate hands.

fuzzbox

lafortezza wrote:

If this was Omaha I would call, otherwise stick the rest in.

If this was omaha, I would fold !!!!

Well I would strongly consider it in any case.

fuzzbox

Results:
I just called, leaving 90 or something like that in my stack. I am not particuarlly happy with my play on the river, even though villain tabled 66 for the win.

Im just wondering what his raising range is ... 75, 65, 66, 77, QQ ... hmmm. Maybe 77 and QQ are relatively unlikely, and we should likely hear from 65 and 75 earlier (especially 75).
I just dont think there are many hands that he plays like this ... with 66 having by far the greatest likelihood (limp in EP ... remember).

I actually considered that he might have clubs, and thought about checking the river. Anybody like that option?

I still dont know what line I like.

cardshark202

fuzzbox wrote:

I actually considered that he might have clubs, and thought about checking the river. Anybody like that option?

So do you check-call or check-raise?

fuzzbox

cardshark202 wrote:

So do you check-call or check-raise?

Check/raise all-in.

He might bet missed clubs, he prolly bets all the 5s, and I only really lose value from his crappy hands that he checks behind ... but he shouldnt give me too much river action with those.

In this spot, it might have been the best play ... although I would have lost more with it.

cardshark202

fuzzbox wrote:

Check/raise all-in.

He might bet missed clubs, he prolly bets all the 5s, and I only really lose value from his crappy hands that he checks behind ... but he shouldnt give me too much river action with those.

In this spot, it might have been the best play ... although I would have lost more with it.

Say you had 65 in his spot and were check-raised all in do you call?
Just wondering which line is best given his likely range. I'm still not certain.

fuzzbox

cardshark202 wrote:

Say you had 65 in his spot and were check-raised all in do you call?
Just wondering which line is best given his likely range. I'm still not certain.

Would you call with 65?

RoundTower

I would.

Tar.Aldarion

All in.

cardshark202

fuzzbox wrote:

Would you call with 65?

Maybe its just the way you described the hand but seeing as I was considering folding Q5 in that spot I guess I fold 65 if villian is somewhat tight.

opr

cardshark202 wrote:

Maybe its just the way you described the hand but seeing as I was considering folding Q5 in that spot I guess I fold 65 if villian is somewhat tight.

I have to kinda agree ... at the end of the day in this spot what is someone check raising with on the river only the nuts or very near.