Tourists Told Not To Report Dublin Crimes by Irish Travel Website

rkeane

Hi Guys,

I found this tourist site (www.dublinsbesthotels.com" remarkably honest on the crime situation here in Dublin. Check out their tourist info page for what they have to say on Dublin crime.
http://www.dublinsbesthotels.com/tinfo.htm#crime

I find myself agreeing with Dublin's Best Hotels on this issue - what is the point in reporting crime to the Gardai - in my experience nothing is done.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

let's not read the newspapers either!

rkeane

I was reading through that site last night, I have 2 admit I was kinda shocked at their honesty. There again, maybe they got more bookings as a result of being honest and not hiding the fact that our Justice system is a joke.

xabi

Very honest advice indeed, I especially like the advice on tipping taxi's.

X.

Hagar

I wonder how long that has been on the site?
My guess it won't be on for too long more now that it has been published here.

monkeyfudge

By not reporting it you're letting them get away with doing nothing.

rkeane

I agree in any case, the only reason to report them is for insurance purposes - and maybe so you can become another unsolved statistic.

Rcuomo

the paragraph on tipping & taxi drivers is great and i fully agree with it....

rkeane

I completely missed the bit on the taxi drivers - "How can I extort from thee; let me count the ways." , this guy is class!

WhiteWashMan

never mind the tourists, this information should be disseminated to every child on attending secondry school.

darkman2

Sure even if the offender was caught he'd probrabrably be up for his 100 and something conviction, let out on bail or off the hook to do it again

Wertz

Judges here treat Irish society as a grand version of the Roman Colosseum where they view the Irish public as some form of legitimate prey for the predator criminals that the courts daily release upon them.

Wow...in a few short lines that guy gets right to the point about why we have the problems with crime that we have here. Pathetic.

Pherekydes

rkeane wrote:

Hi Guys,

I found this tourist site (www.dublinsbesthotels.com" remarkably honest on the crime situation here in Dublin. Check out their tourist info page for what they have to say on Dublin crime.
http://www.dublinsbesthotels.com/tinfo.htm#crime

I find myself agreeing with Dublin's Best Hotels on this issue - what is the point in reporting crime to the Gardai - in my experience nothing is done.

Think of it another way: lots of crime gets reported, Dublin's official crime rate goes up, tourists stay away, hotel business goes down.

rkeane

Yeah...all good points. Maybe this guy should unmask himself and run for office. The crims are running this country and we have nobody to help us.

Chucky the tree

rkeane wrote:

Yeah...all good points. Maybe this guy should unmask himself and run for office. The crims are running this country and we have nobody to help us.

Jesus, get a grip. You'd swear we lived in Iraqi the way your goin on.

rkeane

You should get a grip - we certainly don't live in an iraqi situation - but we do live in a society where criminals don't pay for their crimes. How many muggings / assaults does a scumbag have to do to get banged up?? The Judiciary in this Country have a lot to answer for, I'm not blaming the Minister for Justice - it's the Courts and to a lesser extent the Gardai.

Hagar

Maybe we are giving the "author" of the site too much credit.
Did anyone carefully read the bit about currency exchange?
Pay particular to the phrasing about changing money in "France".
Why France?

Could this site be a copy of something actually written about tourism in France with the odd word changed and in that case missed?

chillywilly

"Begging
They are not genuine! That is the first thing to remember if you encounter people begging. Irish social services and financial supports are good, and no individual or family need suffer because of difficult circumstances. Whatever other problems they may have, no one needs to beg. Still, begging persists because some well-intentioned people foolishly fund the problem, or should that be the industry. If you are confronted by this problem, do your bit and don't encourage it. Keep your money to yourself."

who is this guy to tell tourists not to give the homeless money...i agree with his points on the gardai, but his comments on begging really pissed me off tbh

zuma

rkeane,

Well actually if the Minster for Justice cant build the prisons then the Judges cant send them to something which isnt there...can they now?
Blame the government.....allthough I have never had the pleasrue of going to prison from what Ive heard....slopping out and 3 people to a 1 person room....its 3rd world standard!!!!

Paladin

chillywilly wrote:

who is this guy to tell tourists not to give the homeless money...i agree with his points on the gardai, but his comments on begging really pissed me off tbh

Even the charity organisations in Ireland discourage giving money to beggers.
If you want to help under-privileged, give money to a charity (though I would advise not to commissioned chuggers).

That said, people can do whatever they want with their money, and equally the author can express whatever opinion he has. It's such a great system of freedom.

rkeane

I don't think the author has any axe to grind tbh. He/she just seems to tell it as it is - you can commit dozens of offences and still be allowed to walk the street. I couldn't find one person in my job who disagrees with the author. I've noticed in the last fortnight that both Michael Mc Dowell and the opposition have mentioned this growing problem....we need less chat and more action. Btw I do feel slopping out is inhumane....but these criminals should not have a comfortable life inside prison.

ionapaul

One of the problems may be (feel free to disagree) that the average judge is living a fairly priviledged life and as such rarely would be in a situation where criminality (other that perhaps white collar criminality) really affects him / her. If the average judge was mugged, I am sure we would see harsher penalities levied for muggings. I feel this is a real problem with our justice system, the disconnect between those who pull the strings and influence the punishments / sentences and those who are adversely affected by criminal acts.

copacetic

refreshing read that, even if it is possibly over cynical it's the type of info I would have liked to be able to get about various places I have been in the rest of the world...

civdef

If people don't report crimes, the criminal will never get caught. Not reporting crimes because of lack of perceived response is a short-sighted, counter-productive strategy.

godtabh

ionapaul wrote:

One of the problems may be (feel free to disagree) that the average judge is living a fairly priviledged life and as such rarely would be in a situation where criminality (other that perhaps white collar criminality) really affects him / her. If the average judge was mugged, I am sure we would see harsher penalities levied for muggings. I feel this is a real problem with our justice system, the disconnect between those who pull the strings and influence the punishments / sentences and those who are adversely affected by criminal acts.

Judges are meant to be independent so no one can influence their decisions. If they live a privileged life who cares. If they don’t follow the letter of the law then I would have a problem with it.

Max and min sentences should be applied for each crime. The judge should then follow these guidelines.

Obviously the infrastructure for this (prison spaces) needs to put in place first but with the many idiots that run this country this isn’t likely to happen

happydaz

i hardly think that it can be justified by a fear that irelands crime rate will go up-we've one f the lowest crime rates in europe-AND-a very high police officer to civilian ratio-current climate of fear makes people think you cna trust no one. it's madness!