population??

Redrocket

anyone have reliable links/estimates for the population of ireland???
an accurate amount??

themole

all the info you could possibly want from the people who collect it

http://www.cso.ie/statistics/Population.htm

zuma

I think it should be 4.2Million once they census has been counted.

Dub13

zuma wrote:

I think it should be 4.2Million once they census has been counted.

I would say it will be a bit more than that.

New_Departure06

I suspect it will be closer to 5 million.

Redrocket

well see thats the thing, me and few mates are betting on it. so although i have already made my choice, 5-5.3 million, im just curious now. i read somewhere that in april 2004 the population was 4.13 million?? but i want an up to date accurate amount

Black Swan

Google the Population Pyramids US Census Bureau. They can give you past factual, present estimates, and future projections by year, age cohort, and gender.:cool:

Also, another good source is the CIA World Factbook that you can Google.

New_Departure06

stevenk wrote:

well see thats the thing, me and few mates are betting on it. so although i have already made my choice, 5-5.3 million, im just curious now. i read somewhere that in april 2004 the population was 4.13 million?? but i want an up to date accurate amount

The nexus of the problem is the wildly differing estimates of the Eastern European population here, because of the complete removal of restrictions on 75 million people arising from EU Enlargement and our govts refusal to introduce the restrictions 8 of the original 15 EU states have decided to retain up to 2009-11.

The President of DCU was mentioned in a recent Irish Times supplement as saying he believes that as many as half a million East Europeans are in this country. Another problem in determining the true figure is that different depts have access to varying estimates. We know that around 65,000 Eastern Europeans were legally employed here last year according to a study (I think by AIB). But around 200,000 PPS no.s were issued to nationals of the new EU states since EU Enlargement. An inconsistency seems present here. How can it be reconciled?

In one of the following ways:

A: The 65,000 can only account for legal workers and not the underground economy.

B: The 65,000 doesn't include dependents.

C: Some of the 200,000 may have gone home. However can we really believe that as many as 135,000 did so? I'm doubtful but I don't know.

mike65

The population of Ireland is just over 4 million of whom about 20% are non-national I'd say.

Mike.

New_Departure06

mike65 wrote:

The population of Ireland is just over 4 million of whom about 20% are non-national I'd say.

Mike.

That's unlikely because there were 3.69 million Irish in the last census with a population of 3.9 million in the State. If the population was say 4.2 million and 20% of them were non-national, then that would make for 800,000+ foreigners. 4.2 million minus 800,000 = 3.4 million Irish. That could not be true.

20% maybe. But with a population of 5 million.

mike65

We'll know soon enough I think the early figures will be out in about 6 weeks.

check this pdf

http://www.cso.ie/releasespublications/documents/population/current/popmig.pdf

Mike.

Pherekydes

New_Departure06 wrote:

We know that around 65,000 Eastern Europeans were legally employed here last year according to a study (I think by AIB). But around 200,000 PPS no.s were issued to nationals of the new EU states since EU Enlargement. An inconsistency seems present here.

No inconsistency here. PPS numbers are not just issued to workers.

Winters

I'm RESERVED!

New_Departure06

Slow coach wrote:

No inconsistency here. PPS numbers are not just issued to workers.

Ah but you see their not allowed SW for 2 years so it kind of narrows things down.

Pherekydes

New_Departure06 wrote:

Ah but you see their not allowed SW for 2 years so it kind of narrows things down.

Narrows what down? I don't understand. Any child born in the state gets a PPS number. They can't work or draw SW...

zuma

New_Departure06 wrote:

That's unlikely because there were 3.69 million Irish in the last census with a population of 3.9 million in the State. If the population was say 4.2 million and 20% of them were non-national, then that would make for 800,000+ foreigners. 4.2 million minus 800,000 = 3.4 million Irish. That could not be true.

20% maybe. But with a population of 5 million.

The population of Ireland is the number of people living here....not the population of Irish citizens living here!!!

Whether or not people are Irish means nothing in my view as they still must be catered for and as such the idea of breaking down Irelands population into 4-N-R and not has never crossed my mind when guessing/giving its population.

Hobbes

New_Departure06 you think you can post without posting anti-forigener crap. He asked the population of Ireland. That is all.

We know you have issues, but it would be better if you didn't posting on threads that aren't directly related to it.

Oh and as Zuma mentioned the previous census works out the population of everyone there.

ferdi

Hobbes wrote:

New_Departure06 you think you can post without posting anti-forigener crap. He asked the population of Ireland. That is all.

We know you have issues, but it would be better if you didn't posting on threads that aren't directly related to it.

i dont think thats fair Hobbes, it relates to it plenty. you sound a little over sensative to anyone hinting that it might not be the best idea in the world to have an open boarder policy.

Unpossible

How many people live in Northern Ireland? are they counted in the recent census or was it just taken in the republic.

I ask because I would like to know how many people live on the whole island of Ireland

ateam

Unpossible wrote:

How many people live in Northern Ireland? are they counted in the recent census or was it just taken in the republic.

I ask because I would like to know how many people live on the whole island of Ireland

The North belongs to the United Kingdom and they hold a census count every ten years, usually the second year of every decade i.e. 2011 will be the next. The North has a population of around 1.5 million, making the combined population at around 6 million.

Interestingly it is estimated that if the Famine had not occurred in Ireland, the population could be around 40 million today.

Unpossible

well some americans told me there are 30 million Irish-americans (and I heard somewhere that there is 80 million decendants of Irish worldwide). So I suppose there could have been 40 million of us, but then the famine ended in 1849 and we had high emigration continued until fairly recently.

Hobbes

ferdi wrote:

i dont think thats fair Hobbes, it relates to it plenty. you sound a little over sensative to anyone hinting that it might not be the best idea in the world to have an open boarder policy.

The thread has absolutly nothing to do with it. The person just asked the population of Ireland and the usual muppets clamber all over it to post an agenda. If you have issues keep them to the related threads.

I don't think its fair to keep reading that kind of tripe on threads that aren't directly related to it.

ronbyrne2005

a question about the census,why can the cso just use a sampling method rather than having every home fill one out? i havent seen the census form but it mustnt be possible to garner the information from sampling the population in this case.

New_Departure06

Hobbes wrote:

New_Departure06 you think you can post without posting anti-forigener crap. He asked the population of Ireland. That is all.

We know you have issues, but it would be better if you didn't posting on threads that aren't directly related to it.

Oh and as Zuma mentioned the previous census works out the population of everyone there.

I don't have "anti-foreigner issues". I am stating a fact on the ground which is that if you are in a country illegally you aren't usually going to want the authorities to know where you are. Doh!

Charge of the PC-brigade...:mad:

zuma

Being illegal or not, Irish or not, or whatever had no role in the census!!!

The census is to get statistical info on the population as a whole and the census people are completely separate from the Justice Department so they really couldnt give a sh!t if the next house contains a family of 25 Nepalese illegals or not....!!!

They are just there to get the forms back and make sure they are filled out!!

New_Departure06, from reading your other posts its clear you certainly have a fetish with all things 1916 and being of pure Irish blood and such things!!!

New_Departure06

zuma wrote:

Being illegal or not, Irish or not, or whatever had no role in the census!!!

The census is to get statistical info on the population as a whole and the census people are completely separate from the Justice Department so they really couldnt give a sh!t if the next house contains a family of 25 Nepalese illegals or not....!!!

They are just there to get the forms back and make sure they are filled out!!

New_Departure06, from reading your other posts its clear you certainly have a fetish with all things 1916 and being of pure Irish blood and such things!!!

Don't care about "pure blood". After all weren't Pearse and Brugha half English by parentage? But they had 1 Irish parent. I like the idea of living in a country with an ethnic majority. 1 Irish parent or ancestor is enough to be Irish as far as I am concerned. Don't caricature me.

And yes 1916 is of importance. It brought us where we are today in terms of the Celtic Tiger and independence. I believe we should defer to their views when considering the kind of Ireland we want. After all they sacrificed their lives for us didn't they?

zuma

New_Departure06 wrote:

And yes 1916 is of importance. It brought us where we are today in terms of the Celtic Tiger and independence. I believe we should defer to their views when considering the kind of Ireland we want. After all they sacrificed their lives for us didn't they?

You certainly are a very deluded person!

Just found this on a thread asking what countries people have visited:
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=51330432&postcount=426

New_Departure06 wrote:

Besides Ireland I have been in Wales en route to England. That's it.

Well as you experience with other cultures has been very limited then the stuff you post here is hardly a surprise!!!

New_Departure06

Well as you experience with other cultures has been very limited then the stuff you post here is hardly a surprise!!!

:rolleyes:

SingingCherry

ateam wrote:

Interestingly it is estimated that if the Famine had not occurred in Ireland, the population could be around 40 million today.

What source is this from? Can you link me?

themole

ronbyrne2005 wrote:

a question about the census,why can the cso just use a sampling method rather than having every home fill one out? i havent seen the census form but it mustnt be possible to garner the information from sampling the population in this case.

Sampling is only done to estimate information about a population, ie how many people like bananas.

I cannot be used to count the actual population.