Ruling re: showing cards at showdown??

Rockfish

Hi lads,
Pretty new to the game and not totally au fait with all the rules but would appreciate your thoughts on the following....home game the other night and 2 players at showdown. Board show xxAKx Player A raises and called by Player B. Player A turns over 1 card, an ace and Player B shows KJo but Player A wont show his other card. Does he not have to show both his hole cards to claim pot??
Thanks

Bandana boy

Yes he does

El Stuntman

Rockfish wrote:

Hi lads,
Pretty new to the game and not totally au fait with all the rules but would appreciate your thoughts on the following....home game the other night and 2 players at showdown. Board show xxAKx Player A raises and called by Player B. Player A turns over 1 card, an ace and Player B shows KJo but Player A wont show his other card. Does he not have to show both his hole cards to claim pot??
Thanks

yes

Pokerevents

Rockfish wrote:

Hi lads,
Pretty new to the game and not totally au fait with all the rules but would appreciate your thoughts on the following....home game the other night and 2 players at showdown. Board show xxAKx Player A raises and called by Player B. Player A turns over 1 card, an ace and Player B shows KJo but Player A wont show his other card. Does he not have to show both his hole cards to claim pot??
Thanks

In a showdown a player must show both cards in order to claim the pot.

ianmc38

What if say in theory a player mucks his other card and is left with just the ace. Can he not play the ace with the board?

Rockfish

Thanks for the replies. That's what i tought.

5starpool

ianmc38 wrote:

What if say in theory a player mucks his other card and is left with just the ace. Can he not play the ace with the board?

No. If he mucks one card then his hand is dead at a showdown.

smurph

It absolutely drives me crazy the way that people do not put their cards down. Its simple player A raises a pot, player B says calll, Player A should show their hand first, but oh no people start flapping around, there is a pregnant pause of about 10secs, then the person who saw the raise (Player anounces his cards and player A mucks. Okay so he was caught with his hand in the cookie jar, but he should be made turn his cards over, I want to know his cards.


Then there is the slow rolling manouvre, the worst ethicit of all. It happened to me in the Fitz €50 not so long ago. I left shortly afterwards cause I could feel the tilt monster grabbing my wallet and saying "Go get the Bast**d.

AA 10 Flop, Villian bets, I call, turn 2, Villian bets I call, River 7, Villian bets, I call. I have AK in my hand, No house, I have called the guy, he sits there with a blank expression, dealer gets impatiant, I say its up to you, he still does nothing so I annouce trebs, throw over my AK and other two cards, another pregnant pause of 10 secs........then he throws over his A 10, and takes pot........

It drove me balistic, I don't mind getting beaten by a house, but je*us I hate being slowrolled. I could feel myself mumbling away so I left the table and played mythical instead, less painful way to loose you money.


Anyway breath in, breath out, god I wish I was still smoking......

JustMac

On a similar note:
If on the river its heads up, player A bets, player B folds and mucks. Player A does not have to show his cards but turns 1 card over. If requested does he have to show the other? I think not but just want to confirm.

AllIn

If player B folds, then player A does not have to show any cards.
If player A chooses to show 1 card then that's his decision, no obligation to show a 2nd.

cooker3

AllIn wrote:

If player B folds, then player A does not have to show any cards.
If player A chooses to show 1 card then that's his decision, no obligation to show a 2nd.

Well in that situation, if someone requests then Player A does have to show his second card although it would be considered unethical if someone requested it.

Pokerevents

AllIn wrote:

If player B folds, then player A does not have to show any cards.
If player A chooses to show 1 card then that's his decision, no obligation to show a 2nd.

This is different depending on where you play.
At pokerevents events (and fitz & merrion/macau) if you show 1 of your cards and player requests you must show the other. Again as was said it would be the height of ignorance for a player to do that, unless of course the player was constanly teasing by just showing half the story.
European/UK cardrooms differ on this. I know in the Dam a player can just show 1 and does'nt have to show the other. I believe this is the case in most UK cardrooms.