Bad Beats on Prima & Tribeca

digiman

So I usually play on PPP or Boylesports and I can't believe the amount of bad beats that keep happening to me or my opponent in cash games (they never seem to happen in STT). In the last few days the amount of bad beats I have gotten is unreal. For example this one really pissed me of, I play in a $20 STT for an hour and win it, I get $100, so i decided to play a $0.5/1 cash table for a while. I have played them loads of time before and I feel that they are my most profitable. I sit in with $50 and on about my 3rd hand I get QQ. I make it 4BB raise and get two callers. Flop comes QJ7 with 1 of them being a club. I raise it 6BB I think and one person folds and the other raises it to 6BB, I go all in because I know there is no way I can be behind here. I though he was probably on AA, KK, or AK. He called and has AK suited in clubs. I was a bit worried becasue he could hit a T and beat me with a straight, but instead he hits a club on turn and river and beats me with a flush. I was so sick, what a stupid call by him and then he gets pure lucky.
My point in this thread is that this seems to happen so often, it never happens in real life when I play, are the cards rigged so that they can make as much as possible, like when I get AK there is nearly always someone one AK/Q or a pocket pair. Another hand today I have AK and I raise 5 BB before the flop, flop is AJJ, i check and he raises it 3 BB, I reraise him all in and he shows AQ, the fecker hits a Q on the turn!
Does anyone else find this happening them or am I going through a really unlucky spell or are any of the other sites better against this, at this stage I think that the cards are dealt in an unrandom way.

cardshark202

Rigged

5starpool

*sigh*

Norwich Fan Rob

it happens, in both the cyber world, and the real life card rooms, all sites are the same, cards are cards, its a very cruel game at times.
Sometimes the beats are tough to take, but longshots do come in every now and again, problem is we tend to remember these, and not the amount of times we get QQ, bet the flop, and everyone folds.

Dub13

Here we go again....

opr

I know it can seem like that but if you have sat in a live card room for a few nights you will see the weird ,wonderful and woeful right in front of your own two eyes.

Opr

El Stuntman

digiman wrote:

So I usually play on PPP or Boylesports and I can't believe the amount of bad beats that keep happening to me or my opponent in cash games (they never seem to happen in STT). In the last few days the amount of bad beats I have gotten is unreal. For example this one really pissed me of, I play in a $20 STT for an hour and win it, I get $100, so i decided to play a $0.5/1 cash table for a while. I have played them loads of time before and I feel that they are my most profitable. I sit in with $50 and on about my 3rd hand I get QQ. I make it 4BB raise and get two callers. Flop comes QJ7 with 1 of them being a club. I raise it 6BB I think and one person folds and the other raises it to 6BB, I go all in because I know there is no way I can be behind here. I though he was probably on AA, KK, or AK. He called and has AK suited in clubs. I was a bit worried becasue he could hit a T and beat me with a straight, but instead he hits a club on turn and river and beats me with a flush. I was so sick, what a stupid call by him and then he gets pure lucky.
My point in this thread is that this seems to happen so often, it never happens in real life when I play, are the cards rigged so that they can make as much as possible, like when I get AK there is nearly always someone one AK/Q or a pocket pair. Another hand today I have AK and I raise 5 BB before the flop, flop is AJJ, i check and he raises it 3 BB, I reraise him all in and he shows AQ, the fecker hits a Q on the turn!
Does anyone else find this happening them or am I going through a really unlucky spell or are any of the other sites better against this, at this stage I think that the cards are dealt in an unrandom way.

simple solution: just go play on another site (otherwise you will end up trying to play like your friend above in a 'if you can't beat em...' type mentality)

I am not saying Tribeca is 'rigged', I just think whoever programmed the RNG may have taken a little tooooo much coffee that day - since ditching PPP and moving to Vegasbaby (blatant plug for Culchie ), I'm a lot happier with the randomness of the deal and haven't experienced the mad suckouts that happen with such regularity on Tribeca....my two cents for what it's worth.

I'm sure many boardsters make a fine heap of dollahs off PPP!!

Norwich Fan Rob

There is absolutely NO difference between the randomness of any online sites, or live play, end of story.......

cardshark202

Rigged

Hitman Actual

You lost a 5/1 shot and a 4/1 shot. These never, ever happen in the Fitz. Play live more.

Lets take bets on how long before this thread is locked.

Rnger

tenner on 6:30pm

Dub13

I blame the Progressive Democrats.

DeVore

Some sites suit certain players styles more then others. I am finding that in a steady, small pot-size compared to similar tables, i do better then at the crazy tables for example. Sites will tend to reflect the nationality that domniates them (if there is one) and sites will develop a set of characteristics over time (anyone who has looked into self-organising groups like The game of Life will know what I'm getting at).

As for RNG's, we've covered that to death I think

DeV.

El Stuntman

DeVore wrote:

Sites will tend to reflect the nationality that domniates them (if there is one) and sites will develop a set of characteristics over time (anyone who has looked into self-organising groups like The game of Life will know what I'm getting at).

DeV.

goooot point Herr de Vore.

now we need some kind of theory post on exploiting this little factoid!!

Vegasbaby is full of Canadians who seem to be pretty conservative - standard poker theory would suggest playing loose when the table is tight (and v.v.) but I've never been a huge subscriber to this one.
Any insights for us??

White Knight

El Stuntman wrote:

goooot point Herr de Vore.

now we need some kind of theory post on exploiting this little factoid!!

Vegasbaby is full of Canadians who seem to be pretty conservative - standard poker theory would suggest playing loose when the table is tight (and v.v.) but I've never been a huge subscriber to this one.
Any insights for us??

i have never met a conservative canadian at a poker table .... i dont like stereotyping but feck it ... fish the whole lot of 'em :eek:

Dub13

El Stuntman wrote:

Vegasbaby is full of Canadians who seem to be pretty conservative - standard poker theory would suggest playing loose when the table is tight (and v.v.) but I've never been a huge subscriber to this one.
Any insights for us??

I have said this before about VBP.I think the Canadians have no killer instinct,to many Ned Flanders.

tribulus

its been done before, compare the number of hands you play online to the number of live ones and you'll see its a much greater amount. So surely it makes sense you will see more badbeats online.

I've had a couple of days like that, getting 27o and 37o constantly losing to two pair when someone called your pfr with 84o, its annoying, but then I remember times when i flop treb Q's and push, only to be called by someone with a straight, river's a Q

the point being: it evens itself out

karlh

to quote Lord Hellmuth (see what i did there!?)

"if there was no luck involved i'd win every one of these!"

TacT

El Stuntman wrote:

Vegasbaby is full of Canadians who seem to be pretty conservative. Any insights for us??

Are you nuts?
I've yet to find another site where players are calling 20xbb reraises prf with QTo then calling off there entire stack on an over the pot bet, all-in on a K92 flop with two diamonds on it when I'm holding KK

El Stuntman

TacT wrote:

Are you nuts?
I've yet to find another site where players are calling 20xbb reraises prf with QTo then calling off there entire stack on an over the pot bet, all-in on a K92 flop with two diamonds on it when I'm holding KK

can I come play at your table?

Mr. Flibble

Ahh, I've been looking for somwhere to vent this one (bad beat sticky you say, shh, thats crazy talk).
I too was playing on Tribeca yesterday, raised preflop with A8 and got all in on the flop vs A7o. Flop was A82r. over 98% chance of not loosing this pot, but I did.
That said, my Aces Fitz and SE haveheld up 1ce out of the last 4 times ive had them, with at least 2/3rds of my stack in preflop every time. So it happens everywhere.

TacT

El Stuntman wrote:

can I come play at your table?

klondike, gold pan hands, gold rush and creek side. See you at the tables!

fuzzbox

digi - you are abolutely right about the number of bad beats on Tribeca and on Prima.

However, I have managed to find a solution. I go all-in with any backdoor flush draw, and any gutshot straight draw. They hit everytime, and I am laughing all the way to the bank.

Sometimes - I go all-in with a 3 card straight draw, they are pure gold.
You know, when you have 73 and the board is 4KQ ... I can feel the 5 and 6 coming.

kickintheteeth

Norwich Fan Rob wrote:

There is absolutely NO difference between the randomness of any online sites, or live play, end of story.......

Don't agree with this, all sites hire in different comp programmers, with different codes, and random sequences.

Not sure about this, but some sites shuffle after every card on the board, and stop when the last player calls. others site differ, i would say!

Could be completely wrong about this though. :-)

Hectorjelly

Surely no one her believes the tribeca RNG works properly? I stopped playing there long ago.

fuzzbox

kickintheteeth wrote:

Don't agree with this, all sites hire in different comp programmers, with different codes, and random sequences.

Thats not true - there is actually a roving band of RNG programmers who are hired by every poker site/network to write the code.

Lafortezza

And we all lived happily ever after.