Toyota Corolla 1.6 G6R

Atomic Pineapple

Hey was just wondering if anyone could give me some information on the mentioned car...


I was wondering up until what date they were made I found some information saying that they were made up until 1999 but I found a 2001 one for sale on autotrader.ie

Toyota Corolla G6R - Autotrader.ie

Also would appreciatte any helpfull information on whether there a good car? reliable? also are they loaded on insurance? and can anyone tell me what horsepower there supposed to have?

needless to say, I'm no good at using google

unkel

Made from '97 to '01, 109bhp, but it is very light, so decent acceleration 0-100km/h in about 10 seconds. Dunno if it's going to be loaded insurance wise. The G6R pretty much only adds skirts/spoilers and a 6-speed box compared to a standard SR with same engine

It's a Toyota, so should be reliable. If it's an import, check for signs of clocking

Finally, €11.5k seems very expensive for a 5 year old small family hatch, tbh...

Atomic Pineapple

ok thanks, am just looking at them in general

wouldnt mind one of them or a bmw 316

Cyrus

you selling a focus to buy that? i wouldnt bother

Atomic Pineapple

Cyrus wrote:

you selling a focus to buy that? i wouldnt bother

why not?

Cyrus

boring looking hatch, poor interior, hardly handles any better than the focus and doubt its much faster (especially if u got say a 1.6ltr focus in nice collection trim)

Atomic Pineapple

nope only have a bog standard 1.4 focus, looking for something with a 1.6 engine around the 100bhp area

colm_mcm

As far as I can remember. in Ireland they did a G6 with the 1.3 engine. had a 6 disc changer, six spoke alloys and a six speed gearbox

UK G6R models were loaded with stuff, 1.6 engine, electric sunroof, aircon Leather seats and uprated brakes.

Cyrus

few focuses

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=387018

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=414864

nice golfs

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=408657

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=401049

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=410300

Atomic Pineapple

ah dont be teasing me with the golf's there lovely but just a bit above my budget.

have about €13000-€14000 to play with.

nice focus too the black one especially but I dont like the zetec front bumper with the round fog lights.

what horsepower does the 1.6 golf and focus put out?

Atomic Pineapple

colm_mcm wrote:

UK G6R models were loaded with stuff, 1.6 engine, electric sunroof, aircon Leather seats and uprated brakes.

nice, am goin over to the uk to look for cars in the summer if i dont get what i want here

Cyrus

last golf is within budget and has full gti spec as far as i can see, low mileage too

both would be puttin out circa 105-115bhp

Cyrus

oh and best looking hatch of them all:

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=411342

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=329396

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=418868

ninty9er

I remember wanting one when they first came out. I was only 11. If memory serves correct they only came in black red and silver. It will certainly be a 6 speed gearbox as advertised. hence G6. Just make sure it's not a 5 speed with a 6 speed knob on it. There were very few of these cars sold here, and i would wonder why someone would put non standard Alloys and wing mirrors on a factory performance car if they have an appreciation of things.

Here are a few more examples Watch out for ones with dodgy badging. I am gutted at my research as I see no reason that Toyota would have tagged a 6 speed on a 1.3.

1.3 G6 Cork

1.6l 00 SR/G6 Limerick

Totally Oroginal"... Take a look at the alloys

Things like totally original when there are incorrect spec markings or non standard (not even manufacturer) alloys on the car are a pet peeve of mine.

Toyotas are notoriously bad for it

Tipsy Mac

What about a Toyota Corolla T-Sport it's 1.8 and 190bhp.

Atomic Pineapple

Tipsy Mac wrote:

What about a Toyota Corolla T-Sport it's 1.8 and 190bhp.

if only, there lovely cars

unfortunatly insurance restricts me to 1.6 and around 100 bhp

colm_mcm

€11,500 is an awful lot form a 01 Corolla. even a nice one like that G6R.

cargrouch

ninty9er wrote:

I am gutted at my research as I see no reason that Toyota would have tagged a 6 speed on a 1.3.

1.3 G6 Cork

Firstly - 9700 for a 98,private sale? :eek: No thanks.
Secondly - saw one a few weeks and almost crawled under the car and up under the bonnet to confirm that I was actually looking at a 6 speed 1.3. I remember being so confused by the idea of it.

To the OP, if you're limited to 1.6 and you want a corolla variant, why not a 20 valve import (corolla or levin coupe)? Yes, you will most likely be spanked senseless for insurance. And everyone will think you're a first year apprentice electrician or plumber. Which may or may not be your thing!

Atomic Pineapple

yeh a levin type car appealled to me at first but gone off the idea of them completely because as you say they are associatted with fas college type's, not my style.

would like to keep it to a hatchback style car.

bazz26

Cyrus wrote:

boring looking hatch, poor interior, hardly handles any better than the focus and doubt its much faster (especially if u got say a 1.6ltr focus in nice collection trim)

Well in fairness the 1.4 MkI Focus is hardly spectacular either and the interior is only slightly better quality than the Corolla of that time. Yes the Focus is the better handling car but would you really notice it alot in a 1.4 (80bhp) or 1.6 (100bhp) version? If my memory services me right the Golf MkIV was not known for it's great handling either. Imho not any one of these cars stand out as being particularly better than the rest.

To OP, the best place to pick up one of those G6Rs is in the UK as they were very popular there, should be plenty of nice clean examples to choose from and alot cheaper than anything available here. Just make sure to have it checked out properly first especially if there are any modifications done under the bonnet.

Cyrus

and is this corolla a good handling car?

bazz26

Cyrus wrote:

and is this corolla a good handling car?

I never claimed it was to be honest. Wasn't having a go at you btw. It's just it seems everytime the Corolla or Toyota in general are mentioned in a thread it usually ends up with the "boring" or "put me to sleep" statements start appearing. A bit like the "don't touch an Alfa Romeo" threads.

Anyway this is starting to go off topic.

Cyrus

sorry i wasnt having a go either i was just wondering,

the focus is supposed to handle very well thats all, and while the mkiv golf isnt class leading its not bad and the highline spec cars ive linked would be miles ahead in terms of comfort and interior spec vs the focus or toyota, also i think a 6 speed box in an underpowered engine is merely a gimmick

Atomic Pineapple

yeh one problem i have is dealing with cars that dont handle as well as the focus, its handles very very good also the corolla seems to have terrible rear passenger seats, lack of room.

1.6 focus looks like the best option so far, that or if i can find a 316 with low enough mileage

bazz26

draffodx wrote:

yeh one problem i have is dealing with cars that dont handle as well as the focus, its handles very very good also the corolla seems to have terrible rear passenger seats, lack of room.

1.6 focus looks like the best option so far, that or if i can find a 316 with low enough mileage

The 1999 - 2005 BMW 316i has a 1.9 litre petrol engine.

Atomic Pineapple

bazz26 wrote:

The 1999 - 2005 BMW 316i has a 1.9 litre petrol engine.

yeh i know but it only puts out 102 bhp so its the same cost on insurance as a 1.6

bazz26

draffodx wrote:

yeh i know but it only puts out 102 bhp so its the same cost on insurance as a 1.6

102bhp from a 1.9 petrol engine is disgraceful. :eek:

Personnally I would not pay the additional road tax for a 1.9 engine that will give no benefit in performance over most 1.6 engines.

The 1.6 engine in the Corolla G6R has 110bhp afaik.

Atomic Pineapple

yeh i believe its in the region of 102 - 105 bhp i could be wrong, never really thought about the extra cost in tax, it would be a serious amount.

Rudolph Claus

The difference in tax btween a 1.9 and 1.6 is 511 - 391. 100 quid or so.

The G6 seems very expensive for little power? 105 or so from a car that goes out of its way to have a sporty badge? Sure most 1.6petrols will have 100horsepower approx, why pay extra insurance for a corolla G6 when you could just get a non-sporty badged 1.6 with similar power.
110Hp isnt an awful lot anyways. My 1.6civic coupe has 105horses and looks better than a G6 in my opinion.

Can you insure a vtec anyway handy? If you can, definitely get a vtec, it`d piss all over a G6, similar reliability, maybe better. That or a levin or the old 2ov corolla that were sold here even. Them G6`s dont justify their high price, there neither performance or sporty.

unkel

bazz26 wrote:

The 1999 - 2005 BMW 316i has a 1.9 litre petrol engine.

OP doesn't seem to be looking for a saloon, so within his budget we're talking E36 coupe rather than E46 saloon. The E36 coupe 316 is indeed a 1.6 liter

bazz26

unkel wrote:

OP doesn't seem to be looking for a saloon, so within his budget we're talking E36 coupe rather than E46 saloon. The E36 coupe 316 is indeed a 1.6 liter

Didn't the run out model of the E36 316i coupe have the 1.9 litre engine from the E46 316i saloon? I thought I have seen a few 1999 316i E36 coupes with the 1.9 engine.

unkel

bazz26 wrote:

Didn't the run out model of the E36 316i coupe have the 1.9 litre engine from the E46 316i saloon?

Not AFAIK, but of course I could be wrong. Any BMW experts around to answer this?

bazz26

unkel wrote:

Not AFAIK, but of course I could be wrong. Any BMW experts around to answer this?

Maybe I was thinking of the E36 316i Compact.

unkel

bazz26 wrote:

Maybe I was thinking of the E36 316i Compact.

Yeah, you've a point there, those '00 E36 316i Compact ones were 1.9l alright. Gets very tricky now as the '01 E46 316ti Compact were 1.8l

Where are the BMW experts to set us straight?

Atomic Pineapple

damn confusing BMW, the ones i've been looking at all have 1.9 litre petrol engines, 100 quid in the difference isnt bad, so thats still an option,

I thought the 1.6 civic coupe had way more power than 105?

I must check the insurance on them cos they are indeed way nicer than the corolla, what version has the 105hp?

5500

draffodx wrote:

I must check the insurance on them cos they are indeed way nicer than the corolla, what version has the 105hp?

The 1.6i Ls is 105bhp,theres a 1.6sr which is sohc vtec and 125bhp(and was costing me the same price to insure as the lsi) and then theres the vti which is the dohc vti 160bhp

They all had electrics and sunroof as standard but i think only some lsi's had aircon and the later ones got abs,none of them are jap imports either

unkel

eireal wrote:

and then theres the vti which is the dohc vti 160bhp

@OP, just make sure you test drive that car before you make any decisions. If you love to rev the living sh!te out of it all of the time, it deffo is for you. You'll find out during a proper test drive

Atomic Pineapple

ouch 160bhp will not go down well with the insurance company!!

I think something a bit less powerfull is the order of the day

Rudolph Claus

theres a 1.6sr which is sohc vtec and 125bhp

Hi eireal,I wasnt aware that model existed?
I knew there was the Vti 167horsepower dohc and the one i have the 1.6i Ls 105Hp non vtec, didnt know there was an inbetween. Did you have the Sr for long, did you find it to be niffty enough?

Back to the OP, i`d definitly recommend ths civic coupe. Mine is a UK import with the full uk spec, air con, e/l tilting sunroof and the centre armrest along with e/l windows, abs, etc. Mines the `99 model in black completely standard apart from nice angeleyes with blue bulbs. . There a sweet car.

Atomic Pineapple

Nuttzy wrote:

Hi eireal,I wasnt aware that model existed?
I knew there was the Vti 167horsepower dohc and the one i have the 1.6i Ls 105Hp non vtec, didnt know there was an inbetween. Did you have the Sr for long, did you find it to be niffty enough?

Back to the OP, i`d definitly recommend ths civic coupe. Mine is a UK import with the full uk spec, air con, e/l tilting sunroof and the centre armrest along with e/l windows, abs, etc. Mines the `99 model in black completely standard apart from nice angeleyes with blue bulbs. . There a sweet car.

even the 105hp version you have? is it niffty enough?

Rudolph Claus

Yeah, shes not bad, no ferrari but no slouch either. 60mph in 3rd no bother, i dont push it more than that in 3rd. Shes good enough for overtaking but its not real fast, dont buy one thinking your buying a fast car but has adequate power if you get me. Lets just say its no Vtec, .

What are you driving at the min, i went from a 1.9L diesel pug306 to the civic and its completely different. Its my first petrol and i find it a much nicer/smoother drive and the larger rev range is nice. In my old pug, everything was done between 2 and 3000 revs but thats to be expected from a diesel.

I`d try get an unmodified one if possible. I had been looking for about 3/4months for 1 and had sort of given up, and was on the verge of getting a friend who brings cars in from the uk/japan to get me a uk one, when i luckily stumbled upon the one i bought. It had 43000miles which seems genuine(you can never be 100%), as had a full mot hist with printed mileage for the various years and the lad i bought it off had his own service hist on top of the uk mot`s.. I got a mechanic to check her out aswell and he reckoned it was genuine. Its spotless.
The lad i bought it off only had it for a year, and was selling cause they were having another kid, he had an induction kit, and rocker engine covers and m3 mirrors and all that **** in the boot that he hadnt got round to putting on the car. (Thank god) But i reckon i was lucky, it was only a mater of time before he modified it with tack and if the induction kit had of been in it i wouldnt have even foned him.

Theres a fair few unmodified ones about surprisingly, but finding your preferred colour and lowish mileage ones is the difficult bit.

Are you swaying towards the civic instead of the corolla now? I reckon it`d be a better car, looks nice and is niffty enough, reliability isnt an issue if you buy a decent one and sure you`d have no trouble selling it in a yr or 2 down the line when you want something bigger. They look class with subtle mods, lightly tinted and the standard vti spoiler is nice which i might add at some stage. Some spa`s are asking mad money for them though cause they know young lads can insure them relatively easyier compared to the vtec`s, so be aware.

JohnCleary

Friend of mine has a mint '99 G6 1.3 for sale for €6k

Has a CD Player, Alloys, Front Fogs, All electrics etc.

PM me if you want his phone number

5500

Nuttzy wrote:

Hi eireal,I wasnt aware that model existed?
I knew there was the Vti 167horsepower dohc and the one i have the 1.6i Ls 105Hp non vtec, didnt know there was an inbetween. Did you have the Sr for long, did you find it to be niffty enough?
.

I didnt get the Sr in the end due to the fact that for not much extra money i could get the vti,the only problem is finding the vti in a coupe!

There's a few Sr's for sale on carzone atm and afaik there rare enough,there nippy enough out of vtec too and anyone ive seen has been standard and unmodified.It your modification inclined theres a heap of parts available for them too.

@The op id ring and get an insurance quote on the 1.6i ls and 1.6sr and see how they fair out

joseph brand

Just for fans of the Oul' Corolla hatch, I have a 94' and I want it to look like this one: (see attached image)

Seen one in work yesterday, a REAL MANS car.

Cyrus

a mans car in what way :eek:

Atomic Pineapple

joseph brand wrote:

Just for fans of the Oul' Corolla hatch, I have a 94' and I want it to look like this one: (see attached image)

Seen one in work yesterday, a REAL MANS car.

Definitly not my style!!! more like a REAL BOYS car :rolleyes:

Rudolph Claus

Draffodx, did you buy a civic coup in the end or what did you go for?