Hand Analysis BB raise

Doctor Fell

In the $50 rebuy on stars, 45 left, 27 itm.
Blinds 600 -1200 and ante of 50, I have stack of $25K roughly.

I should preface this by saying I'm raging - I just lost a $20K+ pot with my QQ cracked by a dipsh*t who called an allin raise with A8o, and hit his A. Bastard.

But anyway, in the BB and folded to SB who is new to the table, has about $28K - he completes the blind of $1200. I have K7 suited(big deal) but I'm angry and I want to get some chips back so I raise to $5K.
SB calls, and flop is K68.
He checks I immediatley go all in for $20K into the $10.5K pot.
He thinks for ages, calls for time and eventually calls with KJ, and I'm busted out.

Comments on my play please.

El Stuntman

errrr, bad?

Doctor Fell

El Stuntman wrote:

errrr, bad?

Errrr, thanks, very insightful.

bubbleking

TILT has reared its ugly head.
you shouldn't be in the hand if your angry check your big blind and take a break from the table.

your opponent didnt play the hand great either.

5starpool

Doctor Fell wrote:

Errrr, thanks, very insightful.

He may not have put it too eloquently but he is right. Not mad about your opponents play here either though.

themadchef

OMG! don't you just wanna scream when some idiot as you pointed out cracks your QQ with that rubbish! :mad: I'm afraid thats what your up against all the time. I understand your trying to take the blinds and for the sb to call you with KJ he must have thought you were tilting. i know he was new to the table but did he see the QQ hand or hear about about it while seated?
He must have put you on a steal. To be honest i don't think the K7 raise was that out of order but the fact that he called you .well you must have considered he had a big hand and was trapping or that the had a small pp and made a set or such like. Either way it was just very unlucky not just a bad move ..in my opinion anyway. Tilting is what it is but its not like you had ten deuce is it? you tilted with a decent hand.lol better luck next time

El Stuntman

themadchef wrote:

you tilted with a decent hand.lol better luck next time

K7 is a decent hand now? ay caramba!

Rnger

El Stuntman wrote:

K7 is a decent hand now? ay caramba!

If its folded around to the sb who completes, id frequently raise with Kx if the blinds are signifigant enough

Gholimoli

nothing wrong with the hand at all Des IMO.
SB played the hand very passive i think.
he didnt raise preflop which means he didnt have much of a hand.
you raised him ,hit your top pair ,you have outs as well and your playing to win not to just hit the money so i dont think there is much wrong with the play.
there is 10K+ in the pot on the flop ,you are happy to take it down there and then but if you get called you still have a chance of winning if your behind.so all in is not a bad play here.
ul the way it turned out but remember if you did win it you would be in very good position to go deep.

RoundTower

Raise preflop is good, I would prefer to make it 3.6 or 4k though. I think the bet on the flop is too big, it is hard to get called by a worse hand. Bet 7k, like you would with any two cards here. Even if this leaves you with a tough decision if he calls or check raises, it's better than only getting your stack in when you have 3 outs.

Gholimoli

RoundTower wrote:

Raise preflop is good, I would prefer to make it 3.6 or 4k though. I think the bet on the flop is too big, it is hard to get called by a worse hand. Bet 7k, like you would with any two cards here. Even if this leaves you with a tough decision if he calls or check raises, it's better than only getting your stack in when you have 3 outs.

the problem with this is you have commited your self to the hand anyway.
i agree that you prob will not get called here by a worse hand but the upside is your taking away any bluffs from the opponent.
say villain has QQ here or AQ or something like that,he may well reraise all in if you bet just 7K because you have 13K behind you and he may think that he can get you to fold.in that case your folding the best hand.

RoundTower

Gholimoli wrote:

the problem with this is you have commited your self to the hand anyway.
i agree that you prob will not get called here by a worse hand but the upside is your taking away any bluffs from the opponent.
say villain has QQ here or AQ or something like that,he may well reraise all in if you bet just 7K because you have 13K behind you and he may think that he can get you to fold.in that case your folding the best hand.

OK this is a good point (though I doubt he has AQ/QQ, maybe he will have a go with T8). The way you make this profitable then is you bet 7k and decide you are never folding if he raises. Now sometimes you pick up the pot there and then and sometimes you get it all in when you have the worse hand. But you also have a huge shot at free money if he check raises you all in on a bluff.

Pushing all in might seem like a good idea "to stop you from making hard decisions" but it doesn't work that way. This is a spot where you are much happier calling an all in than pushing all in yourself.

cardshark202

I play the hand the way RT suggested. Dr F, you were unlucky to run into a bigger K the way the hand played out it would have been hard to get away from it.

Doctor Fell

Thanks for the replies lads, I’m definitely thinking more clearly about it now.
My thinking is very similar to RT, Gholi etc. I think raising pre-flop is fine, but as suggested maybe not so much. I would normally only raise it 3.5-4K, but like I said I was tilting. I really didn’t want a caller! But with the smaller raise I’m maybe not as much pot - committed.

It's the play on the flop that I thought was tough - I don't want to underbet the pot in case what Gholimoli said happened and I'm raised, or even in case I entice a call. If I do bet the pot I'm committed, so I just stuck it in. So I think the mistake is definitely raising too much pre-flop. But as it stands, if it did happen again I'd do as RoundTower said - 7K or so and call....