Nirvana

XxedelhxX

ne body ere lik nirvana? if so write 2 me plz!!:)

Mushy

im kinda into them. Think Kurt is a very basic guitarist but his lyrics are great. Dave Grohl is just DAve grohl so that would be enough for me to like them

Umaro

i love them, all the albums, i have posters, books, t-shirt, video - best band ever IMO

ferdi

yeah nirvana is timeless

colster

Great Band.

Ag marbh

Were my teenage band and have a portrait of Kurt tattoo'd on my chest but not really my thing anymore. I'll always have a soft spot for them though...

Karl Hungus

XxedelhxX wrote:

ne body ere lik nirvana? if so write 2 me plz!!:)

Try that again, but this time, in English.

psilocybe

I'm sure not many people "lik" nirvana. I don't think the surviving members would like it.

120_Minutes

Ag marbh wrote:

Were my teenage band and have a portrait of Kurt tattoo'd on my chest but not really my thing anymore. I'll always have a soft spot for them though...

get an elvis tat right beside it fred durst styleee....

dregin

Changed my life.

Ag marbh

120_Minutes wrote:

get an elvis tat right beside it fred durst styleee....

I can respect Elvis but he wasn't a life changing musician for me during my teens and I wouldn't even call Fred Durst a musician so em no

herbieflowers

Ha Fred Durst life changing...jeez!

Treebeard

I'm a big fan of Bleach but the other stuff never really appealed to me

Patricide

i love nirvana, they were the first band i ever really listened to.Since i was around 5 or 6 whenever i was out in my coussins house that and metallica was all that was played, Loved nirvana straight from the off(the metal came later).Sick of them now to be honest ive heard every song too many times but theyl always be a soft spot for them in me.

OctavarIan

Went through a phase when I was younger where they meant the world to me, Kurt was my hero etc etc etc. Then I grew older and got into better music (imo). Don't listen to Nirvana anymore now.

Giblet

Was big into them, still have time for bleach when I'm drunk

I hate the whole "ugh he's a crap guitarist" stuff to the point of anger. He wasn't actually too bad, and he accomplished a lot with what he had. It's usually people who think they're ****ing Vai or something who would say that though

castagnoli

Kurt was a good guitarist in that his riffs were unbelievably infectious, rather than being complicated. If your looking for a bad musician in this band its Krist.:p
Nirvana, for me, started everything musicwise. I think In Utero is their masterpiece album but I do still like a bit of Bleach every now and then

Giblet

Hey Krist played Lounge Act, that's cool enough in my book

Doctor J

There's nowhere to hide for anyone who sucks in three piece band. He's a decent bassist and no mistake.

Patricide

Yea i used to think he was poor, but then i saw some footage of him playing in the nirvana box set and around the net and my opinion dramaticly changed, not the greatst but hes good enough.

evad_lhorg

Karl Hungus wrote:

Try that again, but this time, in English.

having trouble understanding? give it another go. slower this time.

Karl Hungus

evad_lhorg wrote:

having trouble understanding? give it another go. slower this time.

Well, since we have a smart ass, let me state it bluntly: No text speak in this forum.

*Tripper*

Why can't we all just get along *cries*

deaddonkey

I haven't listened to nirvana for years

but they changed my life and i'll always love them. They were the band that did it for me and turned me onto the music I like now.

in utero is a master piece and when I hear songs from that album from time to time it sends shivers down my spine. Stunning stuff.

Kurt's playing taught me to play too, just the fun basic loud raw style that I love.

Great band, I have a lot of time for them even though I don't listen to them anymore.

mawk

man i loved them when i was about 12...
own'd every album, read his journals, tracked down interviews, even grew my long ass blonde hair.

pity i realised later how shit they are.

really, really, just ... not that good a band at all.

at all.

they're awful.

Undergod

An objective fact, then?

Giblet

mawk wrote:

man i loved them when i was about 12...
own'd every album, read his journals, tracked down interviews, even grew my long ass blonde hair.

pity i realised later how shit they are.

really, really, just ... not that good a band at all.

at all.

they're awful.

Ah now, at least say why...

Ag marbh

It bothers me when people say he was a bad guitarist too. His riffs are easy to learn but it's not easy to come up with them.

Patricide

The problem is a lot of people rate guitarists on how fast they can shread, ITS NOT ALL ABOUT SPEED OR ABILITY PEOPLE, i mean its a part but writing cathcy tunes is a very important part of being a guitarist.

Karl Hungus

Patricide wrote:

The problem is a lot of people rate guitarists on how fast they can shread, ITS NOT ALL ABOUT SPEED OR ABILITY PEOPLE, i mean its a part but writing cathcy tunes is a very important part of being a guitarist.

I agree and disagree with you there.

Songwriting is definetly a much needed talent in music, but even then I don't think Cobain really did anything fantastic. Sure, he wrote some great catchy little songs, but they really just followed the tired old verse/chorus/verse/chorus/verse pop song formula. There really was no great songwriting talent there at all in my opinion.

Of course, if all you want from music is a catchy little song, then sure, Nirvana was great. But it just wasn't for me.

redmosquito

Used to love them, I still like them now but I have to say that they are criminally over-rated. IMO they weren't even in the top 3 bands from seattle at that time, never mind the the top few in the world, or one of the greatest ever.

They have left a legacy but their music isn't as special or life defining as it is made out to be (thats just my personal opinion!)

mawk

Giblet wrote:

Ah now, at least say why...

i could say its because the guitaring is awful or too simple or because his voice makes me bleed inside but neither are quite the truth.

i mean there are amazing songs which are simple, woman driving man sleeping is ONE FRIGGIN CHORD!!!, and neither robert plant nor neil young are what most people call good singers but id definitely fight anyone who said **** about their music.

basically nirvana just arent a good band. its not easy to explain why but its really easy to notice how bad they are once you listen to more music.

and its true they werent even the best band in seattle(sp?) alice in chains and probably soundgarden both have them beat.

FTN!
dave grohl is aight and mr. novaselic seems to have fallen into a big pit of obscurity and bass lessons for kids, but as a whole, nirvana just dont cut it and being so overplayed simply doesnt help.

Earthhorse

Karl Hungus wrote:

Sure, he wrote some great catchy little songs, but they really just followed the tired old verse/chorus/verse/chorus/verse pop song formula.

And Cobain would be the first to admit this. Heck, he even wrote a song called Verse Chorus Verse. But songs such as "Gallons of Rubbing Alcohol Flow Through the Strip", and the many jams they indulged in on stage, give the lie to the idea that that was all he was capable of.

Nirvana brought a great deal of honesty to the table, something which was sadly lacking in much music at the time and which has been sorely lacking since as well. It's a testament to his talent that he could write a simple five chord song like "Polly" and cause Bob Dylan, a man whose knowledge of music is as broad as it is deep, to remark upon hearing it, "Kid's got heart".

He was also a great interpreter of other people's songs. Listen to the Meat Puppets' songs covered on unplugged. Then listen to the originals. Nirvana's versions (I'm aware the Kirkwood brothers are playing, but the versions are very much Nirvana's) bring a life to the songs that casts them in a totally different, brilliant way. Their cover of Bowie's "Man Who Sold the World" is nothing short of amazing.

For those reasons, and more (I won't go into them, I can tell you're getting bored), I think it's more than a little dismissive to say they simply wrote "catchy little song(s)".

Beastieboy

Earthhorse wrote:

And Cobain would be the first to admit this. Heck, he even wrote a song called Verse Chorus Verse. But songs such as "Gallons of Rubbing Alcohol Flow Through the Strip", and the many jams they indulged in on stage, give the lie to the idea that that was all he was capable of.

Nirvana brought a great deal of honesty to the table, something which was sadly lacking in much music at the time and which has been sorely lacking since as well. It's a testament to his talent that he could write a simple five chord song like "Polly" and cause Bob Dylan, a man whose knowledge of music is as broad as it is deep, to remark upon hearing it, "Kid's got heart".

He was also a great interpreter of other people's songs. Listen to the Meat Puppets' songs covered on unplugged. Then listen to the originals. Nirvana's versions (I'm aware the Kirkwood brothers are playing, but the versions are very much Nirvana's) bring a life to the songs that casts them in a totally different, brilliant way. Their cover of Bowie's "Man Who Sold the World" is nothing short of amazing.

For those reasons, and more (I won't go into them, I can tell you're getting bored), I think it's more than a little dismissive to say they simply wrote "catchy little song(s)".

Were the Meat puppets songs covers, after all he had Meat puppets on stage:D ... Cobain recorded a number of Leadbelly songs with Mark Lanegan (Screaming Trees, Queens of the Stoen age) i think one or two are on the box set.... Nirvana are brilliant i always go back to them....

deaddonkey

to me, being a great musician is about playing with soul and really moving yourself and the audience in the process.

Whether it's done by kurt cobain or eric johnson is beside the point.

Nirvana moved me a lot with 5 power chords. Johnson does the same playing at breakneck speed.

brianthebard

Giblet wrote:

Was big into them, still have time for bleach when I'm drunk

I hate the whole "ugh he's a crap guitarist" stuff to the point of anger. He wasn't actually too bad, and he accomplished a lot with what he had. It's usually people who think they're ****ing Vai or something who would say that though

Agree absolutey. the point of playing guitar isn't to be the most technically proficent. that means nothing if you can't write a good hook. as mick thompson from slipknot said " I can shred at a million miles an hour and he probably couldn't, but he could write a riff like "smells like teen spirit" and I couldn't"

That's what important, making music thats memorable.

Mossy Monk

they recorded In Utero and Bleach. i will always have time for those albums

JC 2K3

Brought new life to Meat Puppets songs?? Very much Nirvana's?? Make no fúcking mistake, Meat Puppets 2 is one amazing album, a bit of an aquired taste perhaps, but a beautifully artistic masterpiece. The Kirkwoods played the songs exactly as they played them at any Unplugged Meat Puppets gig(although I doubt you've ever heard an Unplugged pups show), so the only difference was the vocals, which weren't too far removed from the way Curt Kirkwood sang them, although he(Cobain) disappoints on Oh Me, not putting the same emotion into it as Kirkwood, admittidly he does a good job on Plateau, nothing amazingly "different" but good enough for a cover. On Lake of Fire you can hear him trying to get the same type of growl as Kirkwood, and not really succeeding, but it is also a good cover.

Earthhorse

No, I haven't heard an unplugged Meat Puppet's show. I'm talking about the album versions, which I remember as being a bit flat and lifeless.

There's this great story, I'm not sure if it's true or not, regarding Kurt and this album. He kept playing it over and over again, ceaselessly, day and night in his Seattle home. Eventually Courtney lost the rag with hearing it so often. "Would you turn this piece of **** off?"

Kurt was taken aback. "You don't like it?" "No." So he turned off the CD, picked up his guitar and started to play the songs to her. And it was then that she heard what he'd been hearing all along.

I have to say I feel pretty much the same way. Perhaps I'm crediting Cobain with too much in this instance and the brothers had already reworked these songs to inject more life into them but I remember the album versions as being slightly plodding affairs.

JC 2K3

Earthhorse wrote:

No, I haven't heard an unplugged Meat Puppet's show. I'm talking about the album versions, which I remember as being a bit flat and lifeless.

There's this great story, I'm not sure if it's true or not, regarding Kurt and this album. He kept playing it over and over again, ceaselessly, day and night in his Seattle home. Eventually Courtney lost the rag with hearing it so often. "Would you turn this piece of **** off?"

Kurt was taken aback. "You don't like it?" "No." So he turned off the CD, picked up his guitar and started to play the songs to her. And it was then that she heard what he'd been hearing all along.

I have to say I feel pretty much the same way. Perhaps I'm crediting Cobain with too much in this instance and the brothers had already reworked these songs to inject more life into them but I remember the album versions as being slightly plodding affairs.

Heard that Courtney Love story too, as i said, the album is a bit of an aquired taste, but once you get into it you realise you've got one gem of an album, hell, Kurt realised it. His voice was more accessable than Curt Kirkwood's, but in the accessibility I feel it lost something.

Then again I am a hardcore pups fan, and owe Nirvana for introducing them to me, so it's not like I resent Kurt or anything