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Getting insured after a ban for no tax, nct & ins.

  • 26-04-2006 9:24pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,413 ✭✭✭


    Anyone got any experience on getting insurance after being banned? I think I'm facing an up hill struggle!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭Santa Claus


    There's a company called St Pauls Insurance who specialise in insuring high risk drivers i.e. people with conviction such as yourself who most other companies won't touch (think they're based in the harcourt centre on harcourt st in Dublin).

    Don't expect a quote of under 5 grand though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,522 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    have you tried all the major companies?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,413 ✭✭✭frobisher


    colm_mcm wrote:
    have you tried all the major companies?

    Yes, they said no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,522 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    St Paul's travellers insurance may be the way to go.

    How about being a named driver on someone elses policy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    frobisher wrote:
    Anyone got any experience on getting insurance after being banned? I think I'm facing an up hill struggle!

    Ya reckon?!? Golden Pages, try everyone twice. You might have a hope as Tax isn't life threatening and NCT is not be all and end all. It's the driving without insurance that'll hurt ye, whatever happens be prepared to dig deep into yer pocket if you want to drive...legally ;)

    edit: ps i hope u like fiat puntos :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭Santa Claus


    colm_mcm wrote:
    How about being a named driver on someone elses policy?

    Most insurance companies won't let you name a driver who has a conviction on your policy either !

    Hate to say it, but you're gonna have to pay the price for your sillyness.

    I seem to remember that an insurance company has to quote you if you have been refused cover by X number of companies (not sure of exact number, i'm sure someone else can fill you in) but they will most likely give you whats commonly known as a fcuk off quote (i.e. a quote so ridiculously high that you'd never take it up).

    Have you tried Quinn direct, they'll normally quote anyone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭Puff Puff Pass


    I seem to remember that an insurance company has to quote you if you have been refused cover by X number of companies (not sure of exact number, i'm sure someone else can fill you in) but they will most likely give you whats commonly known as a fcuk off quote (i.e. a quote so ridiculously high that you'd never take it up).
    The number is 5. After that you write to the insurance ombudsman and he will provide you with a quote


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭drdre


    frobisher wrote:
    Anyone got any experience on getting insurance after being banned? I think I'm facing an up hill struggle!

    how long did you get banned for.i am up on 5th oct for dangerous driving so i will be the same i might get banned and if i do i wonot have insurance for around 5 years because they will just quote me outragous amounts as im only 21.:mad: im just hoping for the best


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    frobisher wrote:
    Anyone got any experience on getting insurance after being banned? I think I'm facing an up hill struggle!

    I can understand being penalised fora drink driving ban but surely a nct/tax/insurance based ban does not make you an insurance liability. I think you need to find a good broker rather than try the companies directly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Thing is if he was banned for no insurance it usually means it's not his first no insurance conviction, people are usually not banned the first time. Maybe this is the reason?


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Methinks it may have been cheaper to pay the insurance & tax back then compared to now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Mc-BigE


    kbannon wrote:
    Methinks it may have been cheaper to pay the insurance & tax back then compared to now!

    Very Good Point!, and if i may say so, if you were willing/Bold enough to drive around without insurance/nct/tax before, why would a Ban stop you now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭commited


    drdre wrote:
    how long did you get banned for.i am up on 5th oct for dangerous driving so i will be the same i might get banned and if i do i wonot have insurance for around 5 years because they will just quote me outragous amounts as im only 21.:mad: im just hoping for the best
    You're possibly going to get banned, yet on other threads you are tlking about buying a Golf GTI? That makes very very little sense ;)


    For the OP - Try every single broker in the golden pages. You might be looking at 10k+


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭drdre


    commited wrote:
    You're possibly going to get banned, yet on other threads you are tlking about buying a Golf GTI? That makes very very little sense ;)


    For the OP - Try every single broker in the golden pages. You might be looking at 10k+
    yeah i know but if i donot get banned then i will get a gti in jan.but it all depends on the court case.but we will leave that topic for another date:confused: . But i donot think i will get banned as the guards lied and im taking action against that.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    But you were acting the prick, no?

    MrP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    I can understand being penalised fora drink driving ban but surely a nct/tax/insurance based ban does not make you an insurance liability.

    I think the reasoning is that if you're prepared to break one law then you may well break another.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭Santa Claus


    drdre wrote:
    But i donot think i will get banned as the guards lied and im taking action against that.;)

    Funny that, most of the lads in Mountjoy claim the same thing :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 314 ✭✭cargrouch


    Funny that, most of the lads in Mountjoy claim the same thing :rolleyes:

    Remember dre, whatever about the guards, santa's list is ALWAYS right. You're in the clear if you call him as an expert witness to declare "Yes your honour, I can confirm that the good doctor has been a very good boy this year, in fact I'm bringing him a Golf GTi for Christmas".;)

    I think I've been at work for far too long...

    *ps, sorry santaman, you must be sick of santa related jokes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭drdre


    Funny that, most of the lads in Mountjoy claim the same thing :rolleyes:

    no but this is true.i am not a scumbag that will or wants to go to the joy.i am a person who wants to prove my point as i am RIGHT.and i will make sure that i prove my point infront of the judge as i have a hearing with on oct 5th and the the guard the caught me will be there.
    i will make sure i only get penalty for what i did and not for what the asshole thinks i did.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Bogger77


    drdre wrote:
    no but this is true.i am not a scumbag

    Ya see, that's subjective, what you may or may not class yourself as has no bearing on what we, or the judge or society as a whole, may class you as.

    and as for proving your point, you were caught, in a public place performing tricks and slides and doughnuts by the cops. In a car which you said you didn't own. On a provisional License, I believe?

    So to be blunt, you were dangerously driving the car, and were not in full control of the vehicle, while being a danger to the public. You, and I hope indeed that I'm correct, screwed when you go before any judge.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭Santa Claus


    drdre wrote:
    no but this is true.i am not a scumbag that will or wants to go to the joy.i am a person who wants to prove my point as i am RIGHT.and i will make sure that i prove my point infront of the judge as i have a hearing with on oct 5th and the the guard the caught me will be there.
    i will make sure i only get penalty for what i did and not for what the asshole thinks i did.;)

    Sadly Dre, judge will see a 21 year old lad and a Garda...who do you think he'll believe unless you have proof to show the garda is lying !?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,523 ✭✭✭optiplexgx270


    drdre wrote:
    no but this is true.i am not a scumbag that will or wants to go to the joy.i am a person who wants to prove my point as i am RIGHT.and i will make sure that i prove my point infront of the judge as i have a hearing with on oct 5th and the the guard the caught me will be there.
    i will make sure i only get penalty for what i did and not for what the asshole thinks i did.;)
    Those who challenge the guards in court rarely come out on top. It comes back to the old your word against his scenario. And trust me your word carries feck all weight in a courtroom.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭drdre


    Bogger77 wrote:
    Ya see, that's subjective, what you may or may not class yourself as has no bearing on what we, or the judge or society as a whole, may class you as.

    and as for proving your point, you were caught, in a public place performing tricks and slides and doughnuts by the cops. In a car which you said you didn't own. On a provisional License, I believe?

    So to be blunt, you were dangerously driving the car, and were not in full control of the vehicle, while being a danger to the public. You, and I hope indeed that I'm correct, screwed when you go before any judge.

    what the hell are you talkin about.
    1) i donot have a provisional licence
    2)when did i say its not my car.
    3)im pleading guilty but i didnot do handbrake turns beside people thats what the guards are saying.

    please keep you wring comments to yourself and stop thread spoiling as this is someone elses thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Bogger77


    in answer to the OP,
    there's 2 companies, St Pauls and one other whose name escapes me, who will quote the unquotable.
    The other company will only ensure you through a broker, so head to broker and ask them to the searching for you.

    one thing to note, stay with these companies for only as long as it takes for the endorsement to go from your license and keep trying to get a quote with one of the main stream insurers. Perhaps, calling into the office of Axa, or whoever, might result in a better outcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Bogger77


    drdre wrote:
    what the hell are you talkin about.
    1) i donot have a provisional licence
    2)when did i say its not my car.
    3)im pleading guilty but i didnot do handbrake turns beside people thats what the guards are saying.

    please keep you wring comments to yourself and stop thread spoiling as this is someone elses thread.

    I'm too busy in work to go drag up you posts, but I will as soon as I can.
    1) you won't have any for too long, october 5th is it?
    2) I'll check.
    3) You're scr*wed, you got credible witness to take the stand and back you up?

    I've found the original thread, here, but I see I was wrong, it was your own Golf you were doing the 360 spins in, oh well. I still say your scr*wed.

    as for spoiling the thread, I think it's a good idea to show the OP the history of person advising him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Bogger77 wrote:
    in answer to the OP,
    there's 2 companies, St Pauls and one other whose name escapes me, who will quote the unquotable.
    The other company will only ensure you through a broker, so head to broker and ask them to the searching for you.

    one thing to note, stay with these companies for only as long as it takes for the endorsement to go from your license and keep trying to get a quote with one of the main stream insurers. Perhaps, calling into the office of Axa, or whoever, might result in a better outcome.
    The problem is that endorsements and convictions will haunt you long after they come off the licence. I think that you have to declare them for at least 5 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭Santa Claus


    drdre wrote:
    what the hell are you talkin about.
    1) i donot have a provisional licence
    2)when did i say its not my car.
    3)im pleading guilty but i didnot do handbrake turns beside people thats what the guards are saying.

    please keep you wring comments to yourself and stop thread spoiling as this is someone elses thread.

    Bottom line Dre, you're pleading guilty to a driving offence therefore you'll most likely get a conviction and an endorsement on your licence which you have to declare for insurance and then you'll be in a similar boat to the OP !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Bogger77


    OP,
    Send me a PM if you'd like me to find out the name of the insurance company for you, but like I said, they only deal with brokers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭drdre


    Bogger77 wrote:
    I'm too busy in work to go drag up you posts, but I will as soon as I can.
    1) you won't have any for too long, october 5th is it?
    2) I'll check.
    3) You're scr*wed, you got credible witness to take the stand and back you up?

    I've found the original thread, here, but I see I was wrong, it was your own Golf you were doing the 360 spins in, oh well. I still say your scr*wed.

    as for spoiling the thread, I think it's a good idea to show the OP the history of person advising him

    yes i do have a witness thats going to tell the truth tot he judge.also you can pull up comments from old thread if you wish.but thats up to yourself as its off the point and im not bothered about it.start up a new thread if you want:cool:

    but thanks for the comments


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭drdre


    Bottom line Dre, you're pleading guilty to a driving offence therefore you'll most likely get a conviction and an endorsement on your licence which you have to declare for insurance and then you'll be in a similar boat to the OP !
    yes you are right i am pleading gulity for a reason as i did do it and im not lying about it.thats what annoys me about the guards as they are lying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    drdre wrote:
    yes you are right i am pleading gulity for a reason as i did do it and im not lying about it.thats what annoys me about the guards as they are lying.
    For gods sake talk to a lawyer and get it pleaded down to careless driving.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭drdre


    Bond-007 wrote:
    For gods sake talk to a lawyer and get it pleaded down to careless driving.
    Thats exactly what im trying to do.as they the poilce are making it to be dangerous driving but it should be carelessFor careless driving most people get fines and endoresment and not many bans are given.

    But the solictor said he will try and sort this out before 5th oct.
    do you know how i can try it get it to carless driving.people have said to me to go to the actual guard and talk to him and see what he says.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 196 ✭✭vannistelrooy10


    frobisher wrote:
    Anyone got any experience on getting insurance after being banned? I think I'm facing an up hill struggle!


    are you for real if you were not on a computer id beat the **** out of you ya prick, i have to pay thousands in insurance because of nobcheese like you. youre the scum of the earth and you should never be insured because you clearly have total disreguard for law. go **** yourself you prick


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭drdre


    are you for real if you were not on a computer id beat the **** out of you ya prick, i have to pay thousands in insurance because of nobcheese like you. youre the scum of the earth and you should never be insured because you clearly have total disreguard for law. go **** yourself you prick
    what are you at, you are muppet for using all the bad words.i cannot read that knacker english sorry:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭JackieChan


    vannistelrooy10,
    Don't hold back, let all the frustration flow!!!:rolleyes:

    Drdre,
    I just hope that no matter what the court outcome that you don't drive like that in a public place going forward. I do think the dangerous driving charge is a bit harsh but there is so much of this going on that the guards have to come down hard on those found doing it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 196 ✭✭vannistelrooy10


    drdre wrote:
    what are you at, you are muppet for using all the bad words.i cannot read that knacker english sorry:o


    **** off back to cabinteely ya prick, maybe mammy or daddy might get you off your ban and buy you a gti, you are a ****ing joke, you went to a cruise acted the muppet got caught, now you have to take your punishment and btw i am no pikie, i just amnt a dry ****e like the rest of you pc ****ers, its quite funny actually.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    I can see the ban hammer being used here!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭drdre


    Bond-007 wrote:
    I can see the ban hammer being used here!
    yes hope he gets banned as thats just an unbelieve stupid post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,523 ✭✭✭optiplexgx270


    Give it a rest lads im getting sick of getting emails for completly off topic comments. And no i wont turn off the instant notifications. :p

    Dont get me wrong I'm looking forward to Oct 5th and hope he gets done rightly so there will be no 40K GTI in Jan for poor little dre. :D But thats just cos I dont like him :)

    On a helpful note find out who the judge will be and see what hes like as when it comes down to it hes the most important person in the room on the day. Some dont take arguments against the cops well at all. Pity you cant pull the Garda mate card like others....... :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭drdre


    Give it a rest lads im getting sick of getting emails for completly off topic comments. And no i wont turn off the instant notifications. :p

    Dont get me wrong I'm looking forward to Oct 5th and hope he gets done rightly so there will be no 40K GTI in Jan for poor little dre. :D But thats just cos I dont like him :)
    why donot you like me.go **** yourself.i am fed up of this ****.you ass hole


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭drdre


    **** off back to cabinteely ya prick, maybe mammy or daddy might get you off your ban and buy you a gti, you are a ****ing joke, you went to a cruise acted the muppet got caught, now you have to take your punishment and btw i am no pikie, i just amnt a dry ****e like the rest of you pc ****ers, its quite funny actually.
    i am not saying nothing to you as i donot want to get banned.as you are only a newbie.i have reprted the thread to the mods.:D and im happy in cabinteely and i work hard for a car unlike scumbags like you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Well done lads! drdre and vannistelrooy10 banned for a week. Thread closed.

    Mike.


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