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Punchestown Tuesday

  • 24-04-2006 7:02pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭


    Am off tomorrow on the now annual bus trip to punchestown,just think of del boys trip to margate:)
    Right now serious stuff,tipps for tomorrow please,what are your fancies?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭wb


    In the 2:40.....................


    I think Ikitaf to be placed @ 3.4 is incredible value (and 8.6 to win is fair too)
    Also, At 2.16 Straw bear is a defintie low risk lay for me here. Yes, he has McCoy on board, who is sure to get the most from him, I also realise he has great form, BUT all of them recent wins and places were on good to soft or soft, and it looks like the going will be good tomorrow. Also, the trainer, Gifford is unproven. I think 2.16 is way too short, and even if it does win, it wont break the bank. While Ikitaf also likes the ground to be a bit softer, he has Ruby Walsh on board, who is boasting both a great punchestown record (20%) and a very healthy overall record. Noel meade is about the best trainer out of the rest of them here too. The big threat is the other Meade horse Sweet Wake, with Carberry on board. but I have my doubts about him. I was watching his last few runs, including Cheltenham, and while Carberry tried to get the best out of him, I don't think he has what it takes here.

    Selections:

    Back Ikitaf to be placed

    Lay Straw bear


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭finnpark


    decies wrote:
    Am off tomorrow on the now annual bus trip to punchestown,just think of del boys trip to margate:)
    Right now serious stuff,tipps for tomorrow please,what are your fancies?

    Not too sure about tomorrow but Wednesday I fancy taking on WOA to get beaten. Beef or Salmon could reverse form there I think if it stays on its feet. very poor odds for all horses at the moment.:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 606 ✭✭✭RedPeppers


    2.40 SweetWake. Is regarded very highly by N.Meade and was slightly dissappointing at Cheltenham. However if hes as good as hes thought of by his trainer i think he will produce the goods tomorrow.

    3.15 NewMill I dont think FotaIsland will be able to reverse Cheltenham placings with this one. This is my bet of the day, this horse was such an easy winner at Cheltenham and probably had alot more in the tank. Has everything going for him.

    3.50 Back In Front. Our Ben looked a very tired horse in the national and is readily passed over. Nickname has never been tried on good ground so is risky betting proposotion tomorrow. Leaves me with Missed That as the competition to the selection, carrying topweight on lively ground will surely find him out and he must also put last run behind him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭jimmyboy


    I would probably favour Fota Island in the 3:15 and I consider sir OJ(16/1) more of a threat than Newmill.It will be Interesting to see how Paul Carberry runs after his recent injury and if he wins on Sweet wake I would say Sir OJ has a great E/W chance.I also like the look of Iktitaf. PC has saddled him in his last few runs and Ruby is on him tomorrow and he will go off at about 6/1.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    No time to post detailed selections.

    2.40 Sweet Wake NB
    3.15 Fota Island NAP
    3.50 Nickname
    4.25 Carthalawn win Joueur D'Estruval e/w


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭chump


    jimmyboy wrote:
    I would probably favour Fota Island in the 3:15 and I consider sir OJ(16/1) more of a threat than Newmill.It will be Interesting to see how Paul Carberry runs after his recent injury and if he wins on Sweet wake I would say Sir OJ has a great E/W chance.I also like the look of Iktitaf. PC has saddled him in his last few runs and Ruby is on him tomorrow and he will go off at about 6/1.

    I wouldn't rate Sir OJ in the 3.15, I've backed it enough and been let down enough. Fota Island is another one who seems to favour coming second against top opposition. It will be exciting to see (altho prob wont get to) if Newmills Chelt win was an amzing fluke, but I wouldn't be overly confident. I wouldn't bet...

    In the 2.40 I'd be willing to take on Straw Bear with Sweet Wake. Even though SW let down at Chelt. he wasn't used to such big fields, he was a bit nervous, and he didn't shame himself. I'd like to think he'll win tomorrow.

    In the 3.50 I think I'll go for Nickname EW (altho only pays 2 places) if a price is available. Although yet to race on good ground who's to say it won't love it :D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 678 ✭✭✭iloveireland


    STRAW BEAR IS A GREAT BET TOMOROW. HE NEVER DISSAPOINTS. DEFINATLY MY NAP.

    i reckon it will be a good day for the punters.

    2:40 - straw bear - NAP
    3:15 - fota island - NB
    3:50 - back in front

    these three have super chances,

    im going to do a double with straw bear and fota island and a treble with back in front aswell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,757 ✭✭✭masterK


    I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Sublimity in the 2:40, he was the best of these on the flat and will relish the drying ground. He was more than a bit unlucky in the Supreme Novices when being badly hampered at a crucial point and still managed to finish ahead of Sweet Wake.

    At 3:15 it's very difficult to oppose Newmill, the small field should play even more to his advantage than in the Champion Chase as he'll be able to dominate from the front, the only slight concern is that he's hasn't really fired on his previous efforts at this course.

    Back In Front looks like the bet of the day at 3:50, there are major doubts about the opposition. The ground is too quick for Nickname, the distance and the fact that he looks to have gone off the boil would put me off Our Ben and I've never really been convinced by Missed That, especially since he has to give weight away today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭careca


    masterK wrote:
    I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Sublimity in the 2:40, he was the best of these on the flat and will relish the drying ground. He was more than a bit unlucky in the Supreme Novices when being badly hampered at a crucial point and still managed to finish ahead of Sweet Wake.

    .

    I agree with this. Straw bear is no value and Sweet Wake was sick at Chelt so could need this run. Great value on Sublimity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭finnpark


    Back to Win
    Seewt Wake (NAP)
    Central House 13/2 Coral
    Our Ben 6/1 Coral (NB)

    Lays
    Laureldean 5.35pm Punch
    Commonchero 5.35pm Punch
    Back In Front 7/4 3.50pm Punch
    Missed That 5/1 3.50pm Punch
    Arctic Times 3/1 2.05pm Punch?? Dodgy Enough
    Sublimity 11/2 2.40pm Punch
    Straw BEAR 5/4 2.40pm Punch


    Good Luck to all


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    STRAW BEAR IS A GREAT BET TOMOROW. HE NEVER DISSAPOINTS. DEFINATLY MY NAP.

    I backed Straw Bear for Cheltenham and was disappointed when it was beat on the line, it did however win superbly at Aintree. I am not going with Straw Bear today because I don't think the ground will suit it. If the going was soft or good to soft I'd be reconsidering. If you're going to be backing the three of your selections you might as well just do a trixie. It's 4 bets, 3 doubles and a treble. So a 4 euro trixie is 16 euro.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Hobart


    My Selections:


    2:40 Straw Bear
    3.15 Newmill
    3.50 Our Ben
    4.25 Naples e/w


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 678 ✭✭✭iloveireland


    sjones wrote:
    I backed Straw Bear for Cheltenham and was disappointed when it was beat on the line, it did however win superbly at Aintree. I am not going with Straw Bear today because I don't think the ground will suit it. If the going was soft or good to soft I'd be reconsidering. If you're going to be backing the three of your selections you might as well just do a trixie. It's 4 bets, 3 doubles and a treble. So a 4 euro trixie is 16 euro.

    if i did a trixie for 4 euro like you said i would only win 145 euro but if i did a ten euro treble which would cost less then i would win 165 euro.

    7/4
    2/1
    evs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭Corben Dallas


    Punchestown

    240 Strawbear > quality horse ground might be a worry, but good enough to do it (NAP)

    315 Fota Island (NB) consistently at the sharp end, could make extra to win it, I would lay Newmill think hes goin to be found out today.

    425 Naples WIN very interesting horse should figure at the business end
    other interesting one Kheetam E/W +could well win it

    535 Lakli Princess quality could win this, pity about change of normal jock.

    Wolves 420 Mount Royale kim onboard looks most likely in this field WIN

    hope that lot helps, some interesting races on today :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭wb


    wbailey wrote:
    In the 2:40.....................


    I think Ikitaf to be placed @ 3.4 is incredible value (and 8.6 to win is fair too)
    Also, At 2.16 Straw bear is a defintie low risk lay for me here. Yes, he has McCoy on board, who is sure to get the most from him, I also realise he has great form, BUT all of them recent wins and places were on good to soft or soft, and it looks like the going will be good tomorrow. Also, the trainer, Gifford is unproven. I think 2.16 is way too short, and even if it does win, it wont break the bank. While Ikitaf also likes the ground to be a bit softer, he has Ruby Walsh on board, who is boasting both a great punchestown record (20%) and a very healthy overall record. Noel meade is about the best trainer out of the rest of them here too. The big threat is the other Meade horse Sweet Wake, with Carberry on board. but I have my doubts about him. I was watching his last few runs, including Cheltenham, and while Carberry tried to get the best out of him, I don't think he has what it takes here.

    Selections:

    Back Ikitaf to be placed

    Lay Straw bear

    Ikitaf wins @ 8/1, and Straw bear loses. Both bets sucessful


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭[nicK]


    wbailey wrote:
    In the 2:40.....................


    I think Ikitaf to be placed @ 3.4 is incredible value (and 8.6 to win is fair too)
    Also, At 2.16 Straw bear is a defintie low risk lay for me here. Yes, he has McCoy on board, who is sure to get the most from him, I also realise he has great form, BUT all of them recent wins and places were on good to soft or soft, and it looks like the going will be good tomorrow. Also, the trainer, Gifford is unproven. I think 2.16 is way too short, and even if it does win, it wont break the bank. While Ikitaf also likes the ground to be a bit softer, he has Ruby Walsh on board, who is boasting both a great punchestown record (20%) and a very healthy overall record. Noel meade is about the best trainer out of the rest of them here too. The big threat is the other Meade horse Sweet Wake, with Carberry on board. but I have my doubts about him. I was watching his last few runs, including Cheltenham, and while Carberry tried to get the best out of him, I don't think he has what it takes here.

    Selections:

    Back Ikitaf to be placed

    Lay Straw bear


    good work! ..nice analysis too.. if only all races were so predictable huh..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭chump


    chump wrote:
    I wouldn't rate Sir OJ in the 3.15, I've backed it enough and been let down enough. Fota Island is another one who seems to favour coming second against top opposition. It will be exciting to see (altho prob wont get to) if Newmills Chelt win was an amzing fluke, but I wouldn't be overly confident. I wouldn't bet...

    In the 2.40 I'd be willing to take on Straw Bear with Sweet Wake. Even though SW let down at Chelt. he wasn't used to such big fields, he was a bit nervous, and he didn't shame himself. I'd like to think he'll win tomorrow.

    In the 3.50 I think I'll go for Nickname EW (altho only pays 2 places) if a price is available. Although yet to race on good ground who's to say it won't love it :D:D

    Fprgot to bet on Sweet Wake...! Thank gawd.
    Nickname pulled out of 3.50!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 606 ✭✭✭RedPeppers


    NewMill romps home. Best horse by far. Hopefully ppl will start giving him the credit that he deserves. Has put me nicely up for the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,757 ✭✭✭masterK


    RedPeppers wrote:
    NewMill romps home. Best horse by far. Hopefully ppl will start giving him the credit that he deserves. Has put me nicely up for the day.

    He's really starting to look the horse he had the potential to be as a novice, I remember having a fairly big ante-post bet on him for the Supreme Novices a few years back only for connections to decide against running. I wasn't going to back him today but when he hit 6/4 on Betfair I couldn't resist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    I've a tip for spring breeze in the 4.25, he's a big price so should be worth having a small bet e/w.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭joebhoy1916


    Irish Daily Star gave first four winners in
    Punchestown. There NAP is Khetaam in
    the next good.

    Should go well.

    Trainer: N Meade
    jockey: P Carberry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,800 ✭✭✭county


    I've a tip for spring breeze in the 4.25, he's a big price so should be worth having a small bet e/w.
    33 down to 16-1,this is being backed big time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭abakan


    Irish Daily Star gave first four winners in
    Punchestown. There NAP is Khetaam in
    the next good.

    Should go well.

    Trainer: N Meade
    jockey: P Carberry.


    Ms N carberry -riding it now and the price is drifting


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭joebhoy1916


    Yeah just seen that. thats what
    f*cked him up.

    Glencove Marina in the next.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    county wrote:
    33 down to 16-1,this is being backed big time


    That gamble went astray.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    sjones wrote:
    No time to post detailed selections.

    2.40 Sweet Wake NB
    3.15 Fota Island NAP
    3.50 Nickname
    4.25 Carthalawn win Joueur D'Estruval e/w

    Sweet Wake nowhere, Fota Island second, Nickname non-runner, Carthalawn nowhere, Joueur D'Estruval 20/1 winner. I backed it at 25/1 myself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭[nicK]


    masterK wrote:
    I've got a tip for Sally's Dream Each way in the Bumper at 5:00 today at Punchestown, the source is usually Ok with information, some win, some don't. Apparantly connections are fairly confident of it being placed.

    my only bet of the day.. thankfully..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭joebhoy1916


    Winner at 7/1.

    Laureldean in the next.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,180 ✭✭✭samo


    Sallys Dream was a good tip - came in for me e/w, cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭jimmyboy


    pretty good so far. good race from Iktitaf and I had Joueur D'estruval. the horse has finally won 4me. I have backed him in his last 6 races and he hasnt won 4 me but gr8 win 2day. i fanct Lakil princess in the next. he is usually a front runner and I hope Fairyhouse didnt take 2 much out of him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭[nicK]


    samo wrote:
    Sallys Dream was a good tip - came in for me e/w, cheers

    wow.. just realised that it actually came in 3rd.. great stuff!

    i was following the in-running betting at betfair where there was no support for the horse whatsoever so i just assumed that it never got into the race..

    nice surprise to see it come in, almost threw my bet away :)
    cheers for the tip mr. K!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    jimmyboy wrote:
    pretty good so far. good race from Iktitaf and I had Joueur D'estruval. the horse has finally won 4me. I have backed him in his last 6 races and he hasnt won 4 me but gr8 win 2day. i fanct Lakil princess in the next. he is usually a front runner and I hope Fairyhouse didnt take 2 much out of him

    Good man, today's result is why it's good to take note and follow horses. Like yourself, I've been following D'Estruval for a while. Was robbed by a place last time out by it's stablemate Adamant Approach, would have been some reverse forecast today :eek: I'm also on Lakil Princess, just in a lucky 15 though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,757 ✭✭✭masterK


    [nicK] wrote:
    wow.. just realised that it actually came in 3rd.. great stuff!

    i was following the in-running betting at betfair where there was no support for the horse whatsoever so i just assumed that it never got into the race..

    nice surprise to see it come in, almost threw my bet away :)
    cheers for the tip mr. K!

    No problem. It's amazing the horse came 3rd after one of the most truly shocking rides I've seen, the jockey had the horse that wide he must have lost at least 5 lengths on each bend. He was then asleep as the front 2 crept clear and it only occurred to him to go after them when it was too late.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,258 ✭✭✭digiman


    [nicK] wrote:
    i was following the in-running betting at betfair where there was no support for the horse whatsoever so i just assumed that it never got into the race..

    nice surprise to see it come in, almost threw my bet away :)
    cheers for the tip mr. K!
    I was doing the same, couldn't believe when I checked Sporting Life to see that it had placed. Was very surprised, usually Betfair is pretty accurate as to where horses are in the race!! Cheers masterK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Sizzler


    wbailey wrote:
    In the 2:40.....................


    I think Ikitaf to be placed @ 3.4 is incredible value (and 8.6 to win is fair too)
    Also, At 2.16 Straw bear is a defintie low risk lay for me here. Yes, he has McCoy on board, who is sure to get the most from him, I also realise he has great form, BUT all of them recent wins and places were on good to soft or soft, and it looks like the going will be good tomorrow. Also, the trainer, Gifford is unproven. I think 2.16 is way too short, and even if it does win, it wont break the bank. While Ikitaf also likes the ground to be a bit softer, he has Ruby Walsh on board, who is boasting both a great punchestown record (20%) and a very healthy overall record. Noel meade is about the best trainer out of the rest of them here too. The big threat is the other Meade horse Sweet Wake, with Carberry on board. but I have my doubts about him. I was watching his last few runs, including Cheltenham, and while Carberry tried to get the best out of him, I don't think he has what it takes here.

    Selections:

    Back Ikitaf to be placed

    Lay Straw bear

    Absolutely gutted aboput Iktitaf. Agreed with you all the way and for some reason changed my mind 5 mins before the race today at the course...GUTTED.Fair play though, hope you made a few quid cos I got fleeced :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,881 ✭✭✭bohsman


    Printed myself some free money backing fotaisland without the favourite at 8/11 but bad day overall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭decies


    Just back from punchestown after stopping at gowran on way up for champagne breakfast ,and the long man outside gowran on way back:D
    it was a day what might have been for me had the first race winner and newmill,then it went wrong:rolleyes:
    I backed nina carberry when katie walsh won,and yes katie walsh when nina won:mad: :mad:
    Stiil 50 euro,bus trip from waterford to gowran,champagne breakfast,reserve inclosure ticket,race programe included cant be bad :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭Corben Dallas


    I have a new strategy for Wed.... whatever I back to win, lay it & whatever i say to lay, back it!
    :grumble grumble:
    two 2nd's and Newmill proves he isnt a flash in the pan. :(
    hats off ibailey, good reasoning, +picking the winner and laying the 2nd RESULT! well done that man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭fr wishy washy


    Glad I kept faith with Jouer Destruval but I did'nt have much on him.
    Had a good bet on Newmill and also got Missed that.


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