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squeeze play hand for tournament donkeys

  • 24-04-2006 12:02am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭


    Here's a fancy hand I played, is this good or does it get me in more trouble than it's worth?

    9 handed table, WSOP qualifier on Pokerstars. 380 left, 33 tickets. I haven't played many hands but doubled up last orbit with KK vs AK to get above my starting stack for the first time. UTG+1 is aggressive, slightly loose postflop, but not stupid. He is a little bit too fond of my small blind because the guy on my left is sitting out. He has raised it from UTG+1 5 orbits out of the last 6. MP1 seems fishy but my only note on him says he leads small on the flop with marginal or crap hands like second pair.

    I have 77 in the SB. Blinds 50-100. I have 2900, MP1 has 2900, UTG+1 has 4000. UTG+1 makes it 300, MP1 calls. I make it 1000 intending to fold to a push. Good?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    Call any push. 1900 to win 4500.


    equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
    Hand 1: 64.1830 % 64.00% 00.18% { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
    Hand 2: 35.8170 % 35.64% 00.18% { 77 }

    Call.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 10,501 Mod ✭✭✭✭ecksor


    If squeeze playing is a form of bluffing, then shouldn't it be done with hands that have no other way of winning? If I was forced to fold here to a push then I'd be sick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    I like it.

    MP1 has probably noticed what you have and doesn't put UTG+1 on much of a hand so his calling range could be pretty wide here.

    Your raise is showing alot of strength , an EP raise and a MP caller, and your OOP They'll have to give you credit for a big hand, I'd fold to a push.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    ecksor wrote:
    If squeeze playing is a form of bluffing, then shouldn't it be done with hands that have no other way of winning? If I was forced to fold here to a push then I'd be sick.

    Hows does any two cards have no way of winning pf?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭Daithio


    I think I might make it 1500 preflop, but otherwise I like the play. Also I call an all in here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    ecksor wrote:
    If squeeze playing is a form of bluffing, then shouldn't it be done with hands that have no other way of winning? If I was forced to fold here to a push then I'd be sick.

    I agree with this in general, but I don't really like calling here with 77 anyway, I'd often fold. And having 77 gives me a backup if someone decides to call me with AQ.

    edit: Oh, I no longer like folding to a push, but it was the plan at the time. If I am definitely calling a push, maybe 1500 or even all in is better.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 10,501 Mod ✭✭✭✭ecksor


    All I mean is that if you get played with here then you're very often behind, hence this move has turned a legitimate hand into a bluff. 72o (or whatever) certainly has a chance of beating legitimate raising hands, but people are not usually counting on sucking out as the main way of winning a hand if they call or re-raise with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Daithio wrote:
    I think I might make it 1500 preflop, but otherwise I like the play. Also I call an all in here.

    Call an all-in if you made it 1500, or call an all-in after making it 1000?

    I think with 1000 you have the option of getting away from the hand.

    1500 is telling them you're willing to go all the way with the hand and makes it look a bit stronger but I don't think I'd like to get it all in here with a pair of 7's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    ntlbell wrote:
    Call an all-in if you made it 1500, or call an all-in after making it 1000?

    I think with 1000 you have the option of getting away from the hand.

    1500 is telling them you're willing to go all the way with the hand and makes it look a bit stronger but I don't think I'd like to get it all in here with a pair of 7's.

    Even if he has AA/KK/QQ/AK this is an autocall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    RoundTower wrote:
    I agree with this in general, but I don't really like calling here with 77 anyway, I'd often fold.

    No way - 200 more to you in the bb!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    No way - 200 more to you in the bb!

    250 more to me in the SB with 2500 behind out of position and unlikely to stack the raiser if I hit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    RoundTower wrote:
    250 more to me in the SB with 2500 behind out of position and unlikely to stack the raiser if I hit.

    I think calling/folding is marginal with one opponent, but once the other guy calls you have to call.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭delanec8


    If you are willing to call a reraise after making it 1000 or 1500 you may as well push it in at the beginning. I dont see much benefit of raising to 1000 if you are committed to getting it all in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Even if he has AA/KK/QQ/AK this is an autocall.

    Huh?

    I don't agree with that.

    How is it an autocall where are you getting the 4500 from?

    I'm talking about folding to a push pf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭loosecannon


    i'm definitely calling and set-hunting here in this hand, has to be the way to play it IMO


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭Daithio


    delanec8 wrote:
    If you are willing to call a reraise after making it 1000 or 1500 you may as well push it in at the beginning. I dont see much benefit of raising to 1000 if you are committed to getting it all in.

    It looks alot stronger. You might get 88-TT to fold with the rraise to 1k or 1500, whereas they might call with those hands if you push; a push here stinks of AK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    I think calling/folding is marginal with one opponent, but once the other guy calls you have to call.

    Where do you get the value from though? I have to either stack someone 80%+ of the time I flop a set, or sometimes pick up the pot without a set.


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