Census Privacy

Mexicola

So we got our Census form dropped in the other day. It was delivered by a local girl. Surely it would make more sense to have someone who is not from the area to deliver the forms? When she collects the forms, does she have access to personal details of everyone on the street? Even if we hand it back in a sealed envelope, what's to stop her opening it - as far as I recall there is fields for her to fill out. Anyone got any info on this?

Also, anyone know how much these people are getting paid to deliver?

Mimikyu

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danniemcq

so you'd rather a stranger lookin through your info than someone you might know and trust?

OMcGovern

There's a freepost address you can post it to instead

Wertz

Ennumerator's are on ~€2000 AFAIK

BlueSpiral

my dad still hasn't even gotten the census form yet.

Uh-oh.

edit: weird, it just got put in the door. amazing

Fraggle Rocks

Wertz wrote:

Ennumerator's are on ~€2000 AFAIK

€9.70something accordig to the news

BlueSpiral

Uh, just a question, if you don't fill in the census is it true you can be brought to Court?

Tar.Aldarion

BlueSpiral wrote:

Uh, just a question, if you don't fill in the census is it true you can be brought to Court?

Fined up to 25 grand as far as I know.

Mimikyu

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takethebiscuit

But there's nothing embarrassing in the form (apart from my requisite 'Jedi' entry under 'religion,' which will be all around the town lickety split)

parsi

Solitaryman666 wrote:

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There isn't a "collection night". The forms will be collected in the days after the Census. The article (it was in the Sun which I read at the barbers ;-) ) is a load of crap.

Squaddy

If its all confidential how do they know you filled in the form or not??

parsi

Squaddy wrote:

If its all confidential how do they know you filled in the form or not??

I imagine it being blank might give the game away Your address is written on it when its given to you.

Skyuser

They don't have time to be looking with all the houses they have to collect from.

Squaddy

But what if you dont hand it up, dont answer the door to the collectors, idoubt they'll give a fcuk.. I'd say that the fine is just to scare you to give you the incentive to fill it in.

parsi

Sure try it and see. Let us know when you're making your court appearance !

Squaddy

Lol. My dad filled it in already! sorry!

zuma

OMcGovern wrote:

There's a freepost address you can post it to instead

Which sends it to Dublin.....who THEN send it back to you local enumerator!

I think there is a greater chance of your form being read, in a more detailed fashion, if you send it to the freepost address!!!

Where did I hear of this information....the head of the census on the Pat Kenny show of course;)

Clare gunner

Has anyone ever heard of anyone actually been fined or imprisioned for not filling in the form???Also how in the Hell are they going to know if the info is genuine or not???They going to come in and count all your rooms and commodes to make sure it is accurate??Easiest way out of this is;go to the Heineken rugger match on Census night in Dublin[or say you did].Who is going to prove you did or didnt?

Mimikyu

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Mexicola

danniemcq wrote:

so you'd rather a stranger lookin through your info than someone you might know and trust?

She might be a local girl, but I dont know her well, yes, I would rather a complete stranger sifting through this information.

Red Alert

some dude got in serious hot water the last time. he was on joe duffy and all saying that he had constitutional rights to privacy and would not fill in the form. never heard from him since - i think the CSO gave him a final solicitors letter and he caved in.

parsi

Solitaryman666 wrote:

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I was shocked....I had thought it was a reputable and reliable publication.

rubadub

danniemcq wrote:

so you'd rather a stranger lookin through your info than someone you might know and trust?

Of course people would prefer a stranger. A stranger is far less likely to be bothered to look at the info too. Its a dream job for the neighbourhood gossip.

Why do you think so many posts in the "personal issues" forum are unregistered? people want to keep things private even from people they only know over the net, let alone living on the same street.

blu_sonic

i've not looked at the forms, is there anything that say a close neighbour wouldn't know about you, that they'd find out from the census?

rubadub

blu_sonic wrote:

i've not looked at the forms, is there anything that say a close neighbour wouldn't know about you, that they'd find out from the census?

YES! I would have to look again but off hand, where you work, religion, age, marital status. I was surprised how much they wanted to know.

dudara

It's your civic duty to fill it in. Simple as that. Like another poster said, there's nothing in it that you wouldn't tell someone anyway.

I know a girl who works in the CSO office in Cork, and you wouldn't believe how much information and analysis they can get from those few questions. It all goes towards planning infrastructure (ha ha), public transport ( ha ha ha) and so on

blu_sonic

Well they'd know marital status and maybe age (or a rough guess), I'm guessing they wouldn't know religion unless they see you at "mass" etc (whereas i'm an agnostic so they wouldn't know that), The might already know were you work,ie. my neighbours are friends of mine they know all of these details as I know theirs.


I mean theres nothing you would be deathly afraid of people finding out about you, still though I wouldn't want any of my details in anyones hands that i didn't give my consent to

Mexicola

dudara wrote:

It all goes towards planning infrastructure (ha ha), public transport ( ha ha ha) and so on

Hahaha.... sure it does... Thats why we have an incredible transportation system, high standard public amenities, a fantatstic health system and law and order.

jor el

where you work, religion, age, marital status.

That's hardly the kind of personal information you'd protect to the grave though is it. I mean, I hardly even know my next door neighbours and they know where I work, they can probably guess my age and my marital status is obvious. As for religion, do you really care who knows that?

Apart from that, the only questions are what kind of house do you live in, are you owner or tenant and how many bedrooms are in it. From looking at the three bed semi-detached houses from the outside, most of the answers wouldn't need looking at.

Unless you really, really don't want anyone to know you full name, age and religion, there's nothing personal in the census form.

rubadub

You are all probably lads.
Plenty of women would protect their age till the grave.

If I was a protestant living on a street full of celtic hooligans I would keep quiet.

Oriel

Squaddy wrote:

If its all confidential how do they know you filled in the form or not??

It's confidential, not anonymous.

bullrunner

sinecurea wrote:

It's confidential, not anonymous.

See thats the thing....they say its confidential...but they are allowed to release the census forms into the public domain from any census 100 years after the census has been made...so technically they are lying to you. It can only be confidential if the census' are never made public.