Harney might be banning cod & chips soon

rubadub

Men hallucinate after eating fish
April 19, 2006 -
http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/item.php?news=911

Rabbit fish are one of several species of fish known to cause
hallucinatory fish poisoning, but the problem is very rare outside
the Indo Pacific.

Two men have suffered terrifying visual and auditory hallucinations after eating poisonous fish in Mediterranean restaurants.

According to a clinical study on the patients, which is due to be published in the journal Clinical Toxicology, the men started seeing and hearing terrifying things after contracting a rare form of hallucinogenic poisoning from the fish they were dining on.

Ichthyoallyeinotoxism, or hallucinogenic fish poisoning, is caused by eating the heads or body parts of certain species of reef fish and has previously only been recorded from the Indo Pacific.

The effects of eating ichthyoallyeinotoxic fishes, such as certain mullet, goatfish, tangs, damsels and rabbitfish, are believed to be similar to LSD, and may include vivid and terrifying auditory and visual hallucinations. This has given rise to the collective common name for ichthyoallyeinotoxic fishes of "dream fish".

Pommier and de Haro of the Toxicovigilance Centre Antipoison at Marseille's Hospital Salvator, who undertook the study, said that the men had both eaten a fish called Sarpa salpa, and subsequently suffered from CNS disturbances including terrifying hallucinations and nightmares.

One of the men, a 40-year old, was admitted to hospital suffering from a digestive problem and terrifying visual and auditory hallucinations, which took 36 hours to disappear. The second man, a 90-year old, suffered from auditory hallucinations a couple of hours after eating the same species of fish, followed by a series of nightmares over the next two nights.

The poisoning can start to cause vivid hallucinations within minutes of eating a poisonous fish and may last for days, often with no other effects. There is no antidote.

Ichthyoallyeinotoxism
Indoles, with similar chemical effects to LSD (lysergic acid diethylamide) are believed to be responsible and may be consumed when the fish eat algae or phytoplankton containing the chemicals.

Others have claimed that different species of ichthyoallyeinotoxic fishes, such as Kyphosus fuseus, contain much more potent hallucinogens, such as dimethyltryptamine or DMT, which is considered to be one of the world's most mind-bending hallucinogenic chemicals.

Sarpa salpa
The hallucinogenic fish consumed by the men was a member of the Sparidae family and is commonly known as the Salema porgy.

The fish reaches a size of around 50cm/20" and occurs through much of the eastern Atlantic and Mediterranean.

For more details on the hallucinatory fish poisonings see the paper: de Haro L, Pommier P (2006) - Hallucinatory fish poisoning (ichthyoallyeinotoxism): two case reports from the Western Mediterranean and literature review. Clin Toxicol (Phila). 2006;44(2):185-8

I done 2 smoked cods last night, fecking mad ourra it

BlueSpiral

Think if could have been nemo?

KTRIC

I walked in on 2 guys in the toilets in Fitzers doing lines of smoked cod last week.

ferdi

they just werent on the right buzz, you need to chillax a bit before doing fish or you'll be sent on a bogie.

Dyr

Is this why cod is usually smoked?

legologic

I heard some dude jumped off a roof after havin' scampi and an onion ring once! Ban them... BAN THEM OUTRIGHT!

Tobias Greeshman

Damn reading this makes me want fresh cod and chips.

Maybe someone should of banned cod and chips, sure poor young hefty mary didn't stand a chance.

johnp

I think Harney should stop eating the chips before she tells us to stop eating them

the Guru

Ha ha I have a marine tank with tangs, damsels in it, now that the shrooms are banned I might have fish parties

danniemcq

Ichthyoallyeinotoxism???

how the **** are ya meant to say whats wrong with ya in a hospital or a doctor when your off your head and you have to say that?

legologic

Tell them you had a dodgey batch of whiting... they'll understand. Fish abuse is clogging up our A&E's in epidemic proportions!