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Playing AAxx in PLO

  • 20-04-2006 8:11am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭


    Here are some AAxx hands in PLO. Whatcha all think?

    Hand 1
    5/10 PLO - full ring but 5 handed right now
    Stacks 1kish, I reraised some1 the last hand preflop. I didnt have AAxx that time.
    Folded to button who makes it 35 to go, I make it 100 from the SB with AsAdJs3c, he calls.

    Flop (205)
    Qd 9s 4s
    I check, he bets pot, I repot (effectively pushing).


    Hand 2
    10/20 PLO - full ring.
    Big stack villain is v.aggro and v.loose. He is pretty good too.
    Normal stack villain is fairly tight.

    Stacks - big stack villain 8k, hero 4.5k, normal villain 2k

    Preflop
    Biggy opens to 70 utg+1, hero smooth calls in the CO with AA92 ds. Norm makes it 280 from the SB, biggy calls ... hero thinks and just calls with the following plan - if norm bets flop and biggy folds, then hero will play for 2k, if norm bets flop and biggy takes action then hero will fold without a strong hand.
    I considered making it 1k here, but didnt really want to play a 10k pot with just a pair of Aces.

    Flop (800)
    Qs 7c 2d
    norm pots, biggy folds, hero pushes

    Hand 3
    10/20 PLO full ring
    Biggy villain is a loosey goosey extrordinaire. Total action junkie. Therefore dangerous.

    Stacks
    Biggy 6k, hero 2k, raiser 2k

    Preflop
    Raiser makes it 70 in ep, biggy calls in MP, hero calls on the button with AA79ds (not spades)

    Flop (225)
    Qc 3s 2s
    raiser checks, biggy pots, hero calls with the following plan - if a non-spade hits turn, then I'm ready to go for my stack, as I think flush draw makes up most of biggys range. I'm really not sure about this one !!, Raiser folds

    Turn (675)
    7d
    biggy pots, hero pushes

    Hand 4
    10/20 PLO full ring

    Stacks 2k or less

    Hero limps UTG with AAJ9ss, a call or two, MP pots 110, called, aggro-head repots 350, folded around to hero, who makes it 1250 to play



    Comments?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    All seem standard to me. Nice raggy flops in hands 2 and 3.
    Hand 1 is a little more marginal but unless he has a set and blockers to the flush draw you're probably fine. Hand 4 you only have $2k at the start of the hand?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,338 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    hand 1 fine I expect a fold here from our villain unless u have run into set

    hand 2 your getting a caller so going to see some variance but happy days I think this is +ev

    Hand 3 not so sure you myself i think biggy has fd no doubt but maybe 2 pair str8 draw as well

    Hand 4 is great but no doubt this is the one that KK37 no suits called and hit a straight
    thats what happens in my world


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭Rnger


    I'm not much of an omaha player but id tend to be more passive in all of these scenarios.

    Hand 1 you could easily be looking at top set but nut flush draw and the induced bluff make this push fine. I'd be more inclined to lead out to make JT pay in case he checks (could also hit a set.. unlikely). You just have aces after all if you miss.

    Hand 2 is fine. Looks like a contiuation bet from norm. Simply unlucky to be looking at QQQ here. He's maybe hoping his "fairly tight" image will allow him to take this down.

    Dunno bout hand 3 :confused:

    Hand 4!! Racing in omaha I hate! I dont know the odds of AAxx holding up but i assume its lower than in holdem. I'd defo just call agro's 350 and see what happens.

    I dont claim to be any omaha cash game expert but wouldnt mind being educated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    fyi - you are nearly always racing in omaha.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 555 ✭✭✭fixer


    hand 2, I don't really like the idea of going against 2 villians with aces ds, I think I would have raised it pf.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭Rnger


    fuzzbox wrote:
    fyi - you are nearly always racing in omaha.

    i meant just preflop racing. AAJTds looks great until the flop comes 456 with none of your suits. I'm very passive preflop in omaha :o wrongly so i imagine


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    fixer wrote:
    hand 2, I don't really like the idea of going against 2 villians with aces ds, I think I would have raised it pf.

    I dont think I can get Biggy off the pot with a reraise, so I would be committing my stack with a reraise.

    If I just call then norm will likely bet the flop through biggy (and I have a good idea that norm has KK), and force biggy to make a commitment decision before I act.

    Hence I just call - although I did consider raising, but if I make it 1k, there is still 3.5k that will go in on the flop ... and biggy wont call unless Im behind/not far ahead.

    Like it now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    Rnger wrote:
    i meant just preflop racing. AAJTds looks great until the flop comes 456 with none of your suits. I'm very passive preflop in omaha :o wrongly so i imagine

    A 60/40 shot is still a 60/40 regardless of whether you take it preflop, or take it on the flop.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    Results:
    Hand 1 - it must have been against lafortezza, because villain had QQ74 with 3 spades. His hand bites preflop there really but bleh. I didnt suck out and villain was victorious.

    Hand 2 - Normy showed AKKQ all red, and he did not improve and AA was good

    Hand 3 - Looney showed JJ94 with two spades (he was not ds here). Brilliant ... but he did not improve and MHIG.

    Hand 4 - the guy who open raised, went all in for 1500, the aggro dude called, I pushed, and aggro called.
    Opener had QQxx, aggro had 6543 maybe one suit, but it didnt matter much cos I flopped the nut flush, and MHIG. When the guy moved in for 1500, I thought he had the other AA, and that aggro was gonna have the best of it ... I guess aggro thought the same thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    fuzzbox wrote:
    Results:
    Hand 1 - it must have been against lafortezza, because villain had QQ74 with 3 spades. His hand bites preflop there really but bleh. I didnt suck out and villain was victorious.
    I was taking a break from UB $50/$100 PLO and just decided to donk it up at the lower limits.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    I wouldn't say these hands are all standard, but they all look fine.

    Hand 1 I lead the flop every time. I don't expect button to bluff at the pot every chance he gets.

    Hand 2 I like, surely the SB has aces too? Do you play the flop the same way if it is JT3 with the wrong flush draw? Not sure I like it then.

    Hand 3 I would do this against some players if I really liked my read. Mostly I just give up on the flop.

    Hand 4 is standard.


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