Irish catholics What's up with that?

lostexpectation

Clueless american wannabee tv host interviewing 'Irish catholics'...

*cringe*

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2911566585406538943&q=irish&pl=true

Hobbes

roflmao.. reminds me of the language programs in Korea. You have a shouting American who thinks it means hes speaking clearer.

and saying that Ireland is in the british isles. rofl. muppet. The two guests look like they were dragged out of some Irish pub.

lostexpectation

that pretty much as bad as it gets,(and it couldn't get any worse for your first question) the guy seems to know somewhat what he talking about, the woman doesn't have a clue, but he does ask some unintentionaly awkard questions, bless his heart.

He looks like maxheadroom

Hobbes

I must see if I can find Jaggehs interview with an American Paper about Irish life.

Guy:Incognito

Hobbes wrote:

roflmao.. reminds me of the language programs in Korea. You have a shouting American who thinks it means hes speaking clearer.

and saying that Ireland is in the british isles. rofl. muppet. The two guests look like they were dragged out of some Irish pub.

Might want to get yourself a map there hobbes. The islands of Ireland, Britain and the channel islands etc are the british isles.

The hosts secondname is will young.

They're all goons.

Hobbes

Stekelly wrote:

Might want to get yourself a map there hobbes. The islands of Ireland, Britain and the channel islands etc are the british isles.

Ireland is not part of the British Isles. Northern Ireland certainly could be. Oddly enough in England I was taught it was while in Ireland I was told the reverse.

Guy:Incognito

The island of Ireland is geographically part of the british isles. British isles is not the same as britain. The north is part of britain but the whole island is part of the british isles.

Guy:Incognito

http://www.macs.hw.ac.uk/britishisles/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles
http://www.geograph.org.uk/

Ishmael

ooh, he card read good!

WhiteWashMan

sorry hobbes, ireland is indeed part of the british isles.

its a geographical region.

it would be akin to saying that sweden is not part of scandinavia.

Stench Blossoms

Oh my god that woman is a fool.

Who is St. Patrick?

"I think he chased the snakes out of Ireland"

"I think he did some good in that country."

lodgepole

She gives an opinion later on regarding drinking in Irish which goes, "I've never been to Ireland, but I think they drink the same amount as everybody else, they just have a lower tolerance to the rest of us". The Irish fella knows his stuff, he's retained a good knowledge of his history despite having left the country. The host is pretty goofy, which is a shame because he throws up a few interesting questions. You get the impression that they're trying to have a light hearted show that tackles serious issues (follow the link to their website) but they've gone with a host who can be light hearted but who can't lead the conversation in a serious manner.

Right_Side

Woman - absolute tool.

Man - decent knowledge but said many stupid things. e.g. "St. Patrick's Day is a quiet affair in Ireland"

lodgepole

Right_Side wrote:

Man - decent knowledge but said many stupid things. e.g. "St. Patrick's Day is a quiet affair in Ireland"

I suppose from his point of view it likely was. Show was recorded in 1998, he said he'd lived in England for fourteen years and he had a family in California. He may not have been back. So while the woman was actually stupid, he was just a little out of date. And even then... in 1998, Paddy's Day wasn't the blood bath it is now. It used to be a fairly pleasant time in the city, public drunkeness and all.

Mossy Monk

Stekelly wrote:

The north is part of britain

incorrect. it is part of the United Kingdom, not Great Britain

Hobbes

Stekelly wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles

*ahem*

Due to the implications of the use of the adjective British, this nomenclature is not universally accepted, even within the archipelago...

Many people, particularly those from the Republic of Ireland, find the term British Isles unacceptable and even offensive because of this. In government literature from the Republic of Ireland it is sometimes assumed that the term British Isles does not include the Republic of Ireland itself, moreover, it is also sometimes assumed that the term does not include the Republic of Ireland in British and Manx usage; hence the occaisional use of the phrase '"British Isles and Ireland". The term British Isles is rarely used in Irish state documents, has been phased out of schoolbooks in the Republic of Ireland[citation needed].
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As I said.

Mossy Monk

the islands that constitute the British Isles are:

* Great Britain
o Northern Isles (including Orkney, Shetland and Fair Isle)
o Hebrides (including the Inner Hebrides, Outer Hebrides and Small Isles)
o Islands of the lower Firth of Clyde (including the Isle of Arran and Bute)
o Anglesey (in Welsh: Ynys Môn)
o Isles of Scilly
o Isle of Wight
o Portsmouth Islands (including Portsea and Hayling Island)
o Islands of Furness
o List of islands of England
o List of islands of Scotland
o List of islands of Wales
* Ireland
o Ulster: Arranmore, Tory Island
+ Northern Ireland: Rathlin Island
o Connacht: Achill Island, Clew Bay islands, Inishturk, Inishbofin, Inishark, Aran Islands
o Munster: Blasket Islands, Valentia Island, Cape Clear , Sherkin Island, Great Island
o Leinster: Lambay Island, Ireland's Eye
o List of islands of Ireland
* Isle of Man
o List of islands of Isle of Man

Hobbes

Mossy Monk wrote:

the islands that constitute the British Isles are:

I'm well aware it is listed as such in England (and other countries), but it isn't in Ireland.

Dave!

Hobbes wrote:

*ahem*

Due to the implications of the use of the adjective British, this nomenclature is not universally accepted, even within the archipelago...

Many people, particularly those from the Republic of Ireland, find the term British Isles unacceptable and even offensive because of this. In government literature from the Republic of Ireland it is sometimes assumed that the term British Isles does not include the Republic of Ireland itself, moreover, it is also sometimes assumed that the term does not include the Republic of Ireland in British and Manx usage; hence the occaisional use of the phrase '"British Isles and Ireland". The term British Isles is rarely used in Irish state documents, has been phased out of schoolbooks in the Republic of Ireland[citation needed].
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As I said.

When's the Irish sea being renamed the Irish and British sea?

omahaid

I dunno, the OSI refer to Ireland as being part of the british isles http://www.osi.ie/pdf/OSGM02_final.pdf (implicitly that is). But it seems that issue has been discussed before http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/archive/index.php/t-310238.html.

cournioni

lostexpectation wrote:

Clueless american wannabee tv host interviewing 'Irish catholics'...

*cringe*

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2911566585406538943&q=irish&pl=true

In fairness, the Irish guy being interviewed is telling it like it is to be honest. Have to laugh at the woman though. She hasn't got a clue!

Hugh Hefner

Hobbes wrote:

*ahem*

Due to the implications of the use of the adjective British, this nomenclature is not universally accepted, even within the archipelago...

Many people, particularly those from the Republic of Ireland, find the term British Isles unacceptable and even offensive because of this. In government literature from the Republic of Ireland it is sometimes assumed that the term British Isles does not include the Republic of Ireland itself, moreover, it is also sometimes assumed that the term does not include the Republic of Ireland in British and Manx usage; hence the occaisional use of the phrase '"British Isles and Ireland". The term British Isles is rarely used in Irish state documents, has been phased out of schoolbooks in the Republic of Ireland[citation needed].
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As I said.

Just because people don't like it, or accept it, just because it's been phased out of schoolbooks and the Republic rarely uses it in stae documents does not mean that it's not true. If anything it means people are in denial about it, though it's understandable how you might not have known the truth. The fact remains that Ireland is part of The British Isles. That shouldn't be a problem.


Anyway, the video is hilarious.

Hobbes

Hugh Hefner wrote:

Just because people don't like it, or accept it, just because it's been phased out of schoolbooks and the Republic rarely uses it in stae documents does not mean that it's not true.

*shrug* Never contended that, just going by what I was taught in school.

It will probably eventually be renamed to Western Isles of the EU.

Capt'n Midnight

Mossy Monk wrote:

incorrect. it is part of the United Kingdom, not Great Britain

or maybe point out that
UK is short for United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Tar.Aldarion

At least the dude knew something.
The woman was hilarious.

Unpossible

That woman knew nothing about Ireland, someone should point this out to her.

The guy said "Ceol, caint agus craic means song fun and dance". A bit of a slip up, but still he is giving a more realistic picture of Ireland.

medja

This seems to be normal in The US, The Irish Americans haven't a clue and the Irish that are over there can say what they want, it might be right and then again it might be rubbish.

I was in boston on the 15th of March watching a interview with someone who stated that Baseball was Irelands fastest growing game and how all the kids wanted to play. This was taken as gospel by the presenter.

Hobbes

medja wrote:

I was in boston on the 15th of March watching a interview with someone who stated that Baseball was Irelands fastest growing game and how all the kids wanted to play. This was taken as gospel by the presenter.

Which is why I must dig out Jaggehs interview and scan it in. He basically told the newspaper that Irish people don't own cars and everyone gets around on horses.

Tar.Aldarion

Hobbes wrote:

Which is why I must dig out Jaggehs interview and scan it in. He basically told the newspaper that Irish people don't own cars and everyone gets around on horses.

Haha, that is brilliant.
Find it.

zuma

medja wrote:

This seems to be normal in The US, The Irish Americans haven't a clue and the Irish that are over there can say what they want, it might be right and then again it might be rubbish.

I was in boston on the 15th of March watching a interview with someone who stated that Baseball was Irelands fastest growing game and how all the kids wanted to play. This was taken as gospel by the presenter.

Hahaha!!!

Cricket has a far bigger following in Ireland than baseball.....:eek:

snickerpuss

zuma wrote:

Hahaha!!!
Cricket has a far bigger following in Ireland than baseball.....:eek:

Baseball and Softball have got a big following here, perhaps not as big as cricket but check it out: http://www.baseballireland.com/
http://www.softball.ie

StupidLikeAFox

Yeah i convinced an american that I never heard of basketball and that we didnt have electric showers when i was in america. I was only 10 as well, still smarter than some of the eegits i was talkin to!

model

This is painful.

Unpossible

The Irish Americans haven't a clue and the Irish that are over there can say what they want, it might be right and then again it might be rubbish.

I dont mind the average american knowing anything about Ireland, but some of the "Irish" ones take the cake. Ive been told stuff along the lines of "Im Irish........Ive never been there though", I mean wtf???



off topic: did anyone see Conan O'Brien's St.Patricks day show this year? he had Martha Stewart on cooking an "Irish Breakfast", she kept calling pudding blood sausage (ok so I have to explain it like that to finns too sometimes, but I still tell them its called pudding), as far as I remember she then forgot to put in sausages. She also didnt mention the extras we put in sometimes (tomatoes, mushroons etc...). She then mixed Jameson with orange and put guinness into a cup and said that was how you could sneak in a drink in the morning. Throughout Conan made classic comments like: "Wow Ive been Irish all my life and I never knew that"

edited for typo

model

The Green Tiger? I've never heard that as another term for the Celtic Tiger. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The woman is just shaking her head at the guy speaking, she actually knows nothing. He's also taking all the questions.

She's also never been to Ireland. They can't hold their drink/drink more than any other countries? Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't it been statistically proven that we do drink the most?

The presenter is a muppet, he can't even say his questions right. Red noses?

Apologies for the poor writing, more or less wrote it in point form.

Lirange

In America practically anyone can start their own local cable access show. They are begging to fill slots. This is the result.

Look at some of the other programming.

http://www.firedupproductions.com/