Another Cruel Satellite Exit

NickyOD

Last week it was the Irish Open. This week its the world series again. 2 years in a row I've gone out one from a ticket in World Series Satelites. This time I was determined to make it 3rd time lucky when I made the final table of the $300 supersat on UB. I've never played a tournament on UB before.

We are down to 5 in the satelite. There are 2 tickets up for grabs. 3 of the other 4 players have demonstrated complete incompitence, the other player is very tight and is the shortstack. I have shown 4 hands at the final table. Aces, Kings and 2 pairs after I flopped a set and got paid of. My table image is the rockiest rock from Rock Town.

I am chip leader with 62K. Blinds are 600/1200. UTG makes it 3200. I make 10K on the button with Kings. The BB calls and UTG folds. The BB is an idiot. He risked his tournament when second in chips with AJ all in preflop against the chip leader who was a total rock. He min reraised me earlier and I went all in over the top with AK. It seemed like it took him an hour to fold and show pocket 9s (which you can do on UB) so its safe to say he is really bad if he even considers calling a big rereraise all in with a mid-pair. In this hand I put him on 77-JJ, maybe AJ or AQ. He would go all in with QQ-AA and AK. He has 50K and is second in chips to me.

The flop comes 3-5-8 with 2 diamond. I have the king of diamonds. He bets out the minimum. I don't know what the **** this means. I'm putting him on 99-JJ at this point but I'm worried he's doing this with AdXd so I smooth call with the intention of raising any non diamond turn. The turn is non diamond 5. He pushes all in. I call. He has A5o for trip fives!.

Given his history I don't know how I can possibly put him on a hand here and consider folding Kings on this flop. I was certain he would commit with 99-QQ on this flop. The only consoltaion was I got $720 for 5th.

If you want a good value supersatelite for the world series this is a really good one.

By the way I do realise I didn't post this in the bad beat thread.

Samba

Ummmmm, when the money went in........

If this guy is a complete Donk Nicky, I really feel you should be raising him big on this flop, your flat call left you in limbo.

Given his history I don't know how I can possibly put him on a hand here and consider folding Kings on this flop. I was certain he would commit with 99-QQ on this flop. The only consoltaion was I got $720 for 5th.

So you know you had the best hand...

I think you played this hand with a of lack of confidence and with great hesitancy, perhaps the last IO hand influenced this, pure speculation

He asked a question with his bet, unfortunately you gave him his answer on teh turn, you were ul but I feel you could have played this hand differently

willis

I push this flop 100% of time,especially given his range. If he calls with ace flush draw then your a big favourite to take him out,increase your lead and win a ticket. You gave him a free card to hit, and then paid him off. Very poor play imo, but ul that he hit the 5

NickyOD

Samba wrote:

Ummmmm, when the money went in........

If this guy is a complete Donk Nicky, I really feel you should be raising him big on this flop, your flat call left you in limbo.



So you know you had the best hand...

I think you played this hand with a of lack of confidence and with great hesitancy, perhaps the last IO hand influenced this, pure speculation

He asked a question with his bet, unfortunately you gave him his answer on teh turn, you were ul but I feel you could have played this hand differently

I put him mainly on on 99-JJ and was happy to get more money out of him on the turn. If he does have a flush draw with a live Ace I'm not that far ahead and don't particularly want to open up the betting again on the flop. Lets not forget this is a satelite and I'm chip leader against a maniac who is second in chips. It's not really in my best interest to get involved in a monster pot with him. If I was playing the hand with a lack of confidence I would have folded to the all in.

Samba

If he's a donk, you can't pin him down on such a narrow hand range imo, I still feel you should be raising even if he has 99...

Lets not forget this is a satelite and I'm chip leader against a maniac who is second in chips. It's not really in my best interest to get involved in a monster pot with him.

Kind of contradicting statement! As you did get involved and if you are happy to get your chips in on the turn, why not on the flop, you say he may have a diamond draw, you won't get paid if he misses.

Im confused.

a-k-47

was a push pre flop not the best thing to do here? absolutely terrible call by the bb at such important stakes. Thats a sick way to go out though, v unlucky..

NickyOD

Samba wrote:

If he's a donk, you can't pin him down on such a narrow hand range imo, I still feel you should be raising even if he has 99....

So far he hasn't shown anything near as bad as A5o to a reraise. He hasn't been that active. Using the info I had I thought the range was pretty logical.

Samba wrote:

Kind of contradicting statement! As you did get involved and if you are happy to get your chips in on the turn, why not on the flop, you say he may have a diamond draw, you won't get paid if he misses.

Im confused.

If this is a normal multi with a relatively flat payout I raise here every time, but this is a satelite with 11K in the difference between 2nd and 3rd with 5 players left. If I open the betting again on the flop, he can push me to a serioous decision and if he does have a diamond draw with an Ace I am about 55/45 to win. With stacks still relatively deep at a table of players with huge blow up potential I would rather make a stop and go of sorts and avoid that and take the pot away from him on the turn. I could fold to an all in and still be second in chips. I do see this stopper bet on a draw a lot but I thought it was more likely he had 99-JJ and had only 2 outs. As it turned out he really did only have 2 outs where he could get me to pay him off.

Question: If you have AK and you put you your oponent on QQ and the flop comes A-X-X and he bets out. Do you raise? Of course you don't! If you have TT with and your oponent raises preflop with AK and you know will call and all in, Which is a better play when there are huige jumps up in the money with deepish stacks, pushing preflop or calling and taking the pot down on a board with no A or K?

NickyOD

a-k-47 wrote:

was a push pre flop not the best thing to do here? absolutely terrible call by the bb at such important stakes. Thats a sick way to go out though, v unlucky..

How can I push preflop for 62K into a pot of 5K?

a-k-47

sometimes id rather just take it there and then... your raise was big enough though to fold a5!

ntlbell

You'd prefer to take the blinds with KK????

a-k-47

id be looking for showdown with utg to get rid of sb bb...if they fold im happy enough, im still cl and up another 6k. its isnt that much of a strange move.

bohsman

a-k-47 wrote:

its isnt that much of a strange move.

Its a good move if you dont like money.

a-k-47

or ticket to the world series..... he be on his way if he did look for a showdown..

ntlbell

a-k-47 wrote:

or ticket to the world series..... he be on his way if he did look for a showdown..

a-k-47

hindsight.

ntlbell

hindsight is not a strategy

jesus i sound like hector sorry :P

a-k-47