PLO pushing when behind

Bandana boy

Recently I have run into not bad drawing hands who have re raised all in into my Nuts hand on the turn.
Example
1-2 PLO
Pot 120 I bet 120 on turn with Nut straight and get re-rasied 200 more back all in by two pair/set and flush draw.Now i would normally be thinking great if possible i would be betting all his stack here but these draws have invariably hitting.
I cant see the logic of there raise here maybe they think they are ahead but I dont play that loose and i am sure they know they are behind on turn.
These are regular profitable PLO players as well

fuzzbox

Just because they are regular and profitable, does not mean that they are any good.

Bandana boy

OK

But it kind of does suggest they are making the correct (result orientated)decisions more often than not

Bandana boy

Is there anyone here who agrees with there logic. Am i just too staid and boring too see the benefits of these moves

fuzzbox

Bandana boy wrote:

Is there anyone here who agrees with there logic. Am i just too staid and boring too see the benefits of these moves

If you dont have an obvious str8, and I have top set + nut flush draw, then I might well be getting all-in with you there too, as you could have a draw or a worse set ... and if I'm wrong, then I have a billion outs, so Im not far wrong.

If Im right and you do have a worse set, and call, then that is fantastic, as a flush card on the river might scare you. Also - if you have a draw, its worse than mine.

Are you sure you are explaining the situation well?

fuzzbox

Bandana boy wrote:

OK

But it kind of does suggest they are making the correct (result orientated)decisions more often than not

This is not always true .... they might be making stupid plays, but their opponents making stupider plays

Lafortezza

pokenum  -o 7h 8h ks qs  - jc 2c 6h 5h  -- 4c 5c 6d 
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing 5c 4c 6d
cards          win   %win  lose  %lose  tie  %tie     EV
Ks Qs  8h  7h  396  48.29   420  51.22    4  0.49  0.485
Jc 2c  6h  5h  420  51.22   396  48.29    4  0.49  0.515

This is on the flop when top 2 and a clean flush draw is actually ahead of the nut straight.

pokenum  -o 7h 8h ks qs  - jc 2c 6h 5h  -- 4c 5c 6d as 
Omaha Hi: 40 enumerated boards containing As 5c 4c 6d
cards          win   %win  lose  %lose  tie  %tie     EV
Ks Qs  8h  7h   28  70.00    12  30.00    0  0.00  0.700
Jc 2c  6h  5h   12  30.00    28  70.00    0  0.00  0.300

After a blank turn, the flush draw and 2 pair is still 30% to win with 1 card to come, if he thinks that he has some folding equity against you, or that you actually dont have the nut straight, then Villain could easily think getting all in on the draw is ok.

fixer

or villian could have the same straight plus higher straight redraws, along with the flush & set potential draws.