Higher level maths

emma.oshea

hey guys im doing a project where i have 2 gather statistics together on why so many students who do higher level for junior cert drop down to pass for the leaving. Can you guys give me an comments or opinions??? how do yo u all percieve leaving cert higher level maths?
thanks a mil emma

yourpetzombie

A lot of people I know who do higher level Maths for the JC aren't allowed, by their parents, to do a pass subject for the Junior Cert. I know at least six people who are in this situation. A lot are also just staying on so they'll find pass easier for the Leaving, a recommendation of the teachers.

I find Maths easy, so Leaving Cert Honours isn't all that intimidating.

philologos

Leaving Cert Honours is very intimidating because after starting doing Pass maths its still quite hard. Plus I got a D in the JC higher, so I think i will do pass as it suits me more

Léan

I would love to give higher level maths ago for the leaving but it's really not looking likely for me.
Especially when my maths teacher is saying things like:
"honours maths for the leaving takes 50% of study time"
I can't afford to spend that long on a subject, especially one that i don't plan on having a career in, or don't even need it as an honours subject.
I know one or two people who are doing it for the leaving and have said that it's very difficult.
Again along with that is my maths teacher saying "really you'd want to be getting an A in the junior cert to even attempt leaving cert honours"

So yeah.. I'll be dropping down in fifth year.
:S

JSK 252

Did ye all know this but the junior certificate higher level mathmematics course is the hardest exam for our age group in the world.

With regards higher level maths for the leaving certificate it is very difficult and this can be seen from the high failure rates in the 2005 examinations. I think 1 in 5 failed it.

JSK 252

emma.oshea wrote:

hey guys im doing a project where i have 2 gather statistics together on why so many students who do higher level for junior cert drop down to pass for the leaving. Can you guys give me an comments or opinions??? how do yo u all percieve leaving cert higher level maths?
thanks a mil emma

Here just wondering what the project is for. Is it to do with the young scientist or something?

emma.oshea

hey guys thanks very much for all your replys. I really appreciate it. Its actually for a college project.

PurpleFistMixer

JSK 252 wrote:

Did ye all know this but the junior certificate higher level mathmematics course is the hardest exam for our age group in the world.

Where did you hear this? Seems weirdly unlikely, to me. I think honours Irish is the hardest thing, but I suppose they can't exactly measure that off other countries.

And.. higher level maths. I think to say that it takes 50% of study time is a bit ridiculous. Everyone is going to find other subjects easier than others and need to study some more than others. I'm definitely doing honours maths... Maths is one of my favourite subjects, it'd just be wrong not to do higher level.
I reckon the problem most people have with it is that they perceive it to be impossible, as people tend to think about maths a lot of the time. We're only doing the leaving cert pass course at the time, but, I don't think honours will be actually undoable.

1huge1

emma.oshea wrote:

hey guys im doing a project where i have 2 gather statistics together on why so many students who do higher level for junior cert drop down to pass for the leaving. Can you guys give me an comments or opinions??? how do yo u all percieve leaving cert higher level maths?
thanks a mil emma

at the start of 3rd year all 33 in my class was doing higher level maths before x mass 5 changed to pass and after the pre's 13 in total are doing pass

lilmissprincess

Before the mocks basically all my class were doing higher, now 4 have dropped down. For the leaving its meant to be murder hard. I'm probably going to have to drop down, I'm doing an extra subject, and sure, while I need the points to get the course I really want, I have otehr subjects too, I can't afford to devote 50% of my study time to one subject. I'll try it until about Christmas of 5th year maybe. Then I'll decide. On the form i wrote down Higher everything, I'm gonna get to choose again next year ( love TY!), so I may change that..

Piste

I have no idea what the leaving cert Maths course is like so I can't say now whether I'll drop down or not. I don't want to though, Maths isn't my strongest subject so I want an A in it just cos

Pighead

Pighead made a pigs ear of his Junior Cert honours maths. Got a D and even struggled to get that. Confidence was shattered so i moved down to pass maths for 5th year.

Breezed through the Pass course to get an A1 in my leaving. That got me 60 points which would have required a C in honours. For me personally I figure it would have taken a lot more effort to have gotten the C in honours Maths but then again Pigheads always been a lazy bastard so make of that what you will.

JSK 252

PurpleFistMixer wrote:

Where did you hear this? Seems weirdly unlikely, to me. I think honours Irish is the hardest thing, but I suppose they can't exactly measure that off other countries.

And.. higher level maths. I think to say that it takes 50% of study time is a bit ridiculous. Everyone is going to find other subjects easier than others and need to study some more than others. I'm definitely doing honours maths... Maths is one of my favourite subjects, it'd just be wrong not to do higher level.
I reckon the problem most people have with it is that they perceive it to be impossible, as people tend to think about maths a lot of the time. We're only doing the leaving cert pass course at the time, but, I don't think honours will be actually undoable.

Well thats what i heard from my own maths teacher. Mathematics is of a very high standard in Ireland. We had mathematicians like Boole etc.

RefulgentGnomon

Although I found Maths easy for the JC and easy in fifth year, I know for sure that this:

Did ye all know this but the junior certificate higher level mathmematics course is the hardest exam for our age group in the world.

is not true. As was said above, subjects like Irish are far harder and anyway, there's no way of measuring accurately really, seeing as a lot of the difficulty with Maths is people expecting it to be hard, i.e. self-fulfilling prophecy.

Mathematics is of a very high standard in Ireland

I don't know about that either. For example: 'Rip Off Republic', aired last year, had the highest viewer ratings in the country.
I can't remember what the figures used were, but Eddie Hobbs said an increase in price from €A to €3A for a bottle of wine, was a 300% increase.
This is wrong as although its new price is three times its original price, the increase was 'only' 200%. I didn't hear one person talk about this and I assume barely anyone copped it. I know that's a weird example but I can't think of anything else at the moment!