Sun Poker 2/4 Hand - A better line?

ianmc38

I have been playing very loosely. I'm VPIP 32, PFR 19 and Aggr 5.4.

Villain is TAG, 22, 14, 2.5. Appears to be useful enough. we've been playing for an hour or so together and we havn't locked horns once as yet.

I've $700 and villain has $580.

I'm on the button and it's the villains BB. I've been open-raising every second orbit.

Folded to me and I open for $16 with TT.

Villain thinks and raises to $50. I flat call.

Flop (102)

2d9hTh

Villain leads for 40. I raise to 120. Villain then minraises to 200. I push. He folds.

Did my original raise and subsequent push in this spot stink of a set?

Should I assume that if someone 3-bets on the flop including a min-raise that 9 times out of 10 they'll call a push?

He told me that he folded pocket kings. I told him that I had pocket jacks

Iceman78

It looks like you played the hand well ianmc.

Villain could have flush draw or straight draw as well as an over pair here and you dont want to give any free cards so you got to push after his reraise. There was enough in the pot to take it down there and then.

fuzzbox

No need to push Vs the minraise, as he almost certainly does not have a draw.

You have position so you can call here.

If he did have KK, then he played it very weakly .... my guess is that he did not have KK.

Samba

Villain Re-raised his PF raise, he does not have a straight draw if he has the flush draw, you can be assured it's the nut draw. no way is he re-raising with QJ, if he flat called you might have a case to argue there.


With better players you have to try and conceal the strength of your hand.

Imo you advertised the strength of your hand and most good opponents will spot this.

Do you think he would raise a draw on the flop? It's possible but unlikely. I do it occasionally myself but he is raising there to put you off a draw incase you have one.

So having come to this conclusion I would wait, wait, wait....flat call the flop min raise, on the turn then raising or calling are both viable options on the turn and villain will not have too much of an idea where he stands.
EDIT
As you played it against a donkey....perfect, not the right approach to take to stack a good player who can easily fold overpairs....imo


edit


Gives fuzz box the evil eye, 3 mins...i need to increase my WPM skillz. - I gave reasons why he does not have the draw..

RoundTower

Samba wrote:

With better players you have to try and conceal the strength of your hand.

Imo you advertised the strength of your hand and most good opponents will spot this.

Why can hero not have a draw here? I would play something like KhJh just like this. Especially if I thought my opponent would fold an overpair.

fuzzbox

RoundTower wrote:

Why can hero not have a draw here? I would play something like KhJh just like this. Especially if I thought my opponent would fold an overpair.

He bet 40 into a 100 pot, and you have position on the flop.

Why not call with KhJh?

Most likely he is not strong, so you could just take the pot away on the turn most often.

What would you do with QQ?

Samba

RoundTower wrote:

Why can hero not have a draw here? I would play something like KhJh just like this. Especially if I thought my opponent would fold an overpair.

U mean villain?


Hero can have whatever he likes tbh

In the Villains case as Fuzz has pointed out, surely he would take the turn card and not inflate a pot out of position on a draw and possibly price himself out of the hand.... KhJh is not impossible, just in this situation highly unlikely based on how the hand has been played out

Do you make a habbit of re-raising PF raises with KJh? I've tried it but with little success