2 questions...

john kavanagh

1. if you knew you were going to be attacked in 3mths (thats all you know, you dont know numbers, weapons, where etc) would you change how you train?

2. if you knew for 100% certain that you were NEVER going to be attacked for the rest of your life would you change how you train?

yes or no answer with 1 or 2 sentances explaining why (shorter answer the better, no dissertations!). i think this could be interesting:D

dlofnep

I'd train the same for either scenario.

1. It covers what I need.
2. I enjoy what I do, so no need to change either way.

Baggio...

Interesting questions,

1. I would not really change my overall strategy. But if I had 3 months to prepare I'd increase the intensity of my training as much as I could.
2. I love the my training anyway, so I'd do it even if I was never to use it.

TapouT

1. Yes, I'd drop Judo and go back to full time kickboxing.

2. Yes, I honestly think I'd continue training. I love the competition and the huge circle of friends I've met through the various styles.

Kav if you're interested I asked a similar question last June but it quickly degenerated into how much whiskey Clive can drink.

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=272417

1. if you knew you were going to be attacked in 3mths (thats all you know, you dont know numbers, weapons, where etc) would you change how you train?

I'd train sprints several times a day. Cut out drinking. Go fully Paleo. I'd train more intensely in all three ranges and do lots of sprawl and brawl MMA drills with my goal being to hit and run. I'd do the STAB course and drill it with the rest of my training as it would improve my clinch skills anyway.
Essentially I'd focus more on my health and fitness and also increase the intensity of my training. My methods would remain constant.

2. if you knew for 100% certain that you were NEVER going to be attacked for the rest of your life would you change how you train?

Absolutely not. I train for fun.

Banphrionsa

Would not change my training schedule. Although, I have been thinking about adding the fox defense.

Millionaire

john kavanagh wrote:

1. if you knew you were going to be attacked in 3mths (thats all you know, you dont know numbers, weapons, where etc) would you change how you train?

2. if you knew for 100% certain that you were NEVER going to be attacked for the rest of your life would you change how you train?

yes or no answer with 1 or 2 sentances explaining why (shorter answer the better, no dissertations!). i think this could be interesting:D

Good questions John!

1. I would do similar to what I do, I would train combatives, RBSD, full contact RBSD drills, backed up with full on attribute training in Muay Thai with tons of fight orientated conditioning. Real combatives in my experience is excellent for a real attack, once it is back up with serious attribute training. (no weekend end course BS ok.... ; - )) and weapons defence trained RBSD style. you have to drill the weapons stuff full on to, in order to stand somewhat of a chance.

2. I would still do the same as I do because I love it and it makes me happy. as I said I am 20 years doing right cross, and I am still trying to improve it.
if I had more time and if it was available here, (which it is not in this village)...I would be doing Yoga. I took up Hatha Yoga in irishschoolofyoga http://www.irishschoolofyoga.com in 2004 and it was the best thing i ever did in my life. yoga mixed with breathing exercise mixed with meditation.... an amazing thing. I highly recommend anyone who is interested to go to Roy in irishschoolofyoga beside the Gaeity Theatre , its excellent, and when your the only bloke in a class of 15 chicks thats kinda nice too!!!! : - )

FiannaGym.com

1. I'd take up golf, and start hanging around in old folks homes, I'm confident I could take 8 - 10 old foggies, with knives maybe 4 - 5.

2. Nothing at all. I train purely because i love it and competition.

Peace

crokester

1) Id train sprints
2) No! I truly believe ill never be attacked in my life as it is!

Niall Keane

1. would stop training, drink a few bottles of whisky a day, try to supersize myself, and if at all possible contact all of my attackers and tell them that 5 against one wouldn't be fair, they should all bring at least another 5 of their mates each. After all I'd have to give them a chance!!!
2. No, I might want to attack someone someday?

Cake Fiend

Hmm, that first question sounds awfully familiar

1. Yes. I don't train with an emphasis on self-defence at the moment, so I'd start getting my real-life SD skillz up.

2. Possibly, but probably not - I train more for fun than for SD anyway.

dunkamania

1 a little grecco and thai,and loads of sprints and jogging

2 no difference

BobbyOLeary

1. Hmmm, I'd probably stop the Kenpo and hit into some serious SD stuff, Combatives, RBSD, all that jazz. I'd probably change how I carry on for a while though, only stay in a group, well-lit areas, that kind of thing.

2. No change to what I do now, though I'd say I'd relax when I'm walking through Dublin at night! I do Kenpo mostly for competition with others and the fun of it.

Celticfire

john kavanagh wrote:

1. if you knew you were going to be attacked in 3mths (thats all you know, you dont know numbers, weapons, where etc) would you change how you train?

2. if you knew for 100% certain that you were NEVER going to be attacked for the rest of your life would you change how you train?

yes or no answer with 1 or 2 sentances explaining why (shorter answer the better, no dissertations!). i think this could be interesting:D

1, I'd break out that old can of mace that's in a drawer somewhere, That stuff will take the fight out of quite a few people while giving you the chance to run.

2, Not getting time at the moment to train but going back soon because it's good fun and self-fulfilling. So quite happy with the type of training I do.

ShaneT

john kavanagh wrote:

1. if you knew you were going to be attacked in 3mths (thats all you know, you dont know numbers, weapons, where etc) would you change how you train?

Yes. I would increase the intensity and regularity of my conditioning routines. In essence, I would view it as a competition date and target my fitness/conditioning training to peak around the event.

john kavanagh wrote:

2. if you knew for 100% certain that you were NEVER going to be attacked for the rest of your life would you change how you train?

No. Definitely not. There's a "minimum" level of training that I need to get in to "feel alive". That will never change. Some people play squash, badminton, football etc etc. My "sport" is martial arts.

TapouT

This is an excellent thread and has given me some cause to think. I've been doing door work for the last 15+ yrs and so I'm in an environment whereby voilence is pretty likely, yet I don't train specifically for that. And doesn't the first question cover it. I'm confident in work that I can handle just about anyone. But this thread as made me rethink (and repost).

If I thought I'd be facing a skilled fighter or fighter's I'd definitely step up my training and wouldn't put so much into Judo for awhile. As I said above I'd go back to fulltime kickboxing. I wouldn't go to Thai, although its more effective I couldn't be trained to a high level in three months.

So with regard to the above, you can see I don't currently train for a street situation but for my own enjoyment of learning Judo and competition.

Sorry for the repost in the thread, but its an excellent thread and has made me rethink, which I suspect is the purpose of the thread. To make us question the effectiveness of our various styles.

john kavanagh

TapouT wrote:

Sorry for the repost in the thread, but its an excellent thread and has made me rethink, which I suspect is the purpose of the thread. To make us question the effectiveness of our various styles.

well the purpose was defineatly to make people think but not to questions the effectiveness of various styles.

most people on this board may THINK there reason for training for self defence is related to question 1....its not! although this may be something that draws us to the training in the beginning its not what keeps us coming back.

EVERYBODY answered to important no.2 question THE EXACT SAME WAY..."i wouldn't change how i train EVEN if i knew i'd NEVER be attacked because i LOVE it too much":D

this proves the complete absurdity of 95% of debate on this forum....but hey it keeps it going so....what style would prepare you best if a monkey attacked you in a confined space with an apple pie:D

dlofnep

john kavanagh wrote:

what style would prepare you best if a monkey attacked you in a confined space with an apple pie:D

Crazy monkey defense, duh.

john kavanagh

lol!

Roper

This thread proves once and for all that MMA beats TMA, apple pie or not.

This forum has had three distinct stages:
1)Very few people talking about what their favourite stance was, cat, fox, tiger, crane, dishwasher.
2)Then others joined and asked questions, lively but mostly friendly debate ensued. Some of the previous posters spit their dummy's out and sodded off. Others stayed and debated on, agreed to disagree and generally slagged each other off.
3) This latest stage, where mine is better than yours threads have become the norm, and are repeated ad nauseum. I'm guilty on this too.

I think it was you John who started a topic asking people to define an "MMAer" and a "TMAer". Nobody could come up with a satisfactory answer, this proved a very important point, but most people have forgotten what that was and we're back to square one- TMA vs. MMA when most people are in no position to understand the others point of view.

Ger Healy

Sh*t apple pie as a weapon now I'm really confused
Better start whipping the cream

Roper

Whipping the cream??? Just to clarify Ger, and maybe it's my mind playing tricks on me. But you're saying that when attacked with an apple pie, you should have a w@nk?
Now I'm glad we didn't roll yesterday:eek:

memphis

Interesting questions

1. I'd probably concentrate more onmy training, techniques, level of fitness, etc. Would probably focus on diet too, along with maybe regular walks, jogging, or even swimming.... with the ocassional weights.

2. I'm in MA solely as a past-time, and because I love the whole thing. Even if I never had to compete etc. I'd still stick at TKD.

Cake Fiend

john kavanagh wrote:

what style would prepare you best if a monkey attacked you in a confined space with an apple pie:D

That's a pretty silly scenario, in fairness. If we're going to discuss something like this, we could at least keep things realistic. :rolleyes:















It's obviously going to be a banana pie.

A monkey would never waste a banana related product. Ever

Dragan

john kavanagh wrote:

1. if you knew you were going to be attacked in 3mths (thats all you know, you dont know numbers, weapons, where etc) would you change how you train?

Nope. Without specifics why worry. It will happen and be dealt with at the time.

john kavanagh wrote:

2. if you knew for 100% certain that you were NEVER going to be attacked for the rest of your life would you change how you train?

Nope. I don't train specifically in anything for anything! I train because i enjoy what i do!