limewire usage

thebaz

is downloading from limewire legal , it seems the same as old school Napster, but never gets mentioned when they prosecute fileshareres , its always kazaa users being prosecuted. any difference between kazaa and limewire ? Have there been prosecutions in Ireland , are we being foreced to use new napster , itunes and the like . The other thing, with most homes having multiple users on the one pc, what if your son / daughter /brother access kazaa or whatever, can you still be prosecuted, as the pc owner , as you can't monitor 24 / 7 .

Sherifu

Yarrrr!!!!!
They will catch up with limewire eventually i guess.
There have been cases where kids have downloaded content and the parents/grandparents have been held responsible and fined.
Eg. http://www.bloggingbaby.com/2005/08/23/girls-mom-fined-for-childs-illegal-downloading/

weeder

ok look a few days ago my bros friend got a letter from the imra saying you have been fined €2500 failure to pay the fine resulting in a court appearanec and a 33 grand fine my advice stay away

Stephen

A few days ago... that wouldn't happen to have been on April 1st?

Fighting Irish

I use bearshare the odd time, the thing is i never share anything, i think most people who get caught are the people who have all their music in their limewire/bearshare library for people to download off them. Use newsgroups and its highly likely you won't get caught

weeder

it wasnt an april fools i dont think? is that what you mean?

DemonOfTheFall

thebaz wrote:

is downloading from limewire legal , it seems the same as old school Napster, but never gets mentioned when they prosecute fileshareres , its always kazaa users being prosecuted. any difference between kazaa and limewire ? Have there been prosecutions in Ireland , are we being foreced to use new napster , itunes and the like . The other thing, with most homes having multiple users on the one pc, what if your son / daughter /brother access kazaa or whatever, can you still be prosecuted, as the pc owner , as you can't monitor 24 / 7 .

Yes, you can still be prosecuted. In america at least, the precedent was set a few months ago where a single mother was prosecuted for music her kids or her kids' friends downloaded.

Noelie

It's not illegal to download, in Ireland at least, maybe it is in the US, all the people you hear of getting prosecuted are people who UPLOAD files. as long as you dont share you should be fine.

Maybe if the made the media a reasonable price people wouldn't counterfiet it so much.

Mutant_Fruit

Noelie wrote:

It's not illegal to download, in Ireland at least

Prove it. Where does it say its legal to download copyrighted material in our law?

thebaz

sounds like there is no surefire answer - my daughter is the main user of limewire, apart from barring her from the pc , which i don't want to do , i just need to ensure she does not upload. Its hard to know what to do , as she being a typical teenager keeps what she does very private , msn, bebo etc . All i do is run the odd virus scan to ensure she hasn't infected pc . But real hard to police 100% , even if she had her own pc , she could infect that and i assume i would be still responsible - bit of a minefield.

Tar.Aldarion

Turn upload slots to zero and tell her to not upload.
Also, that' if she does, no more interweb.

aidan_walsh

is downloading from limewire legal

sounds like there is no surefire answer

There is a surefire answer. If what you're downloading has been released by the creator with the express intention that it can be freely downloaded then it is not illegal. Otherwise, you're more than likely in violation of copyright.

Turn upload slots to zero and tell her to not upload.

Thats no protection what so ever.

Tar.Aldarion

aidan_walsh wrote:

Thats no protection what so ever.

From what?

aidan_walsh

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

From what?

Possible prosecution.

Tar.Aldarion

aidan_walsh wrote:

Possible prosecution.

I never said it was.
I was just telling her what to do if she doesn't want her daughter uploading when she uses limewire, which is what she wanted to know in the last post.


You can't really stop her, unless you just tell her not to and set it to 0 so it doesn't upload automatically.

thebaz

Thanks - i have set slots to 0 , do i also need to remove the shared folder and all sharing of folders ? or does setting slots to 0 , mean files can be viewed but not downloaded by others ? i'll even forgive u 4 callin me a she !;)

Bartonprince

I use a program called Direct Connect. It is a p2p sharing program. As i don't want to upload anything because uploading kills your download speed, i use a version of it called DCStealth. It allows you to say that you have already got a certain amount of people uploading from you, so you won't be kicked for not sharing.

*I don't download anything illegal from it*

Tar.Aldarion

thebaz wrote:

Thanks - i have set slots to 0 , do i also need to remove the shared folder and all sharing of folders ? or does setting slots to 0 , mean files can be viewed but not downloaded by others ? i'll even forgive u 4 callin me a she !;)

Oh sorry man.
They can't upload now. You can remove items from the shared folders if you want also.

Grimlock

A woman in my office asked me about this after christmas, her daughter and all her friends used it but she was getting Viruses and malware, I told her to stop using it and to use allofmp3.com

On Monday the woman told me that all of her daughters friends (well their parents) have been served with fines. So they are definitely prosecuting Limewire users.

And if you download copyright material and don't pay of course it is illegal!!!!

ZygOte

using peer-to-peer (p2p) software of any kind or make is in itself NOT illegal, the illegal part happens when you use it to download material i.e music,movies, games etc which is copyright

also what every program you use generally doesnt matter you are tracable no matter what. most of the programs Limewire, Kazza, Gnutella all talk to each other over the internet hence its P-2-P

thebaz

The confusion returns - i have set slots to 0 , so she can't upload - but teenagers being teenagers and many others , see it as a challenge and a bit of a buzz - gettin stuff for free - especially when money is short - do i just stand over while she uses machine , as she is not the most obedient - i puchase a lot of music myself cd's , and mp3's legally from itunes - so i pay my way - piracy is not going to go away - they crushed napster - and rebranded it as a poor commercial replacement - limewire and kazaa moved in - and i assume there are many more to follow - internet piracy is here to stay - i am not promoting it but it is a fact of life - but i don't want to get hit with a 2 or 3 grand fine !!

ZygOte

thebaz wrote:

The confusion returns - i have set slots to 0 , so she can't upload - but teenagers being teenagers and many others , see it as a challenge and a bit of a buzz - gettin stuff for free - especially when money is short - do i just stand over while she uses machine , as she is not the most obedient - i puchase a lot of music myself cd's , and mp3's legally from itunes - so i pay my way - piracy is not going to go away - they crushed napster - and rebranded it as a poor commercial replacement - limewire and kazaa moved in - and i assume there are many more to follow - internet piracy is here to stay - i am not promoting it but it is a fact of life - but i don't want to get hit with a 2 or 3 grand fine !!

teenagers being teenagers need a good kickin once in a while i know i was one not too long ago, but anyway its a pretty safe bet that if your kids usage is relativley low i.e downloading the ocassionaly new song and not downloading everything in sight that youll be okay. the music companies are primariliy interested in the people who are uploading most of the music. also if you do get a fine id expect to be a lot more than 2 or 3 grand and then add legal fees etc.

the decision is yours

aidan_walsh

teenagers being teenagers and many others , see it as a challenge and a bit of a buzz - gettin stuff for free - especially when money is short

This calls for a little something called parenting. What you do is up to you, and teaching your daughter responsible behaviour would certainly fall under that.

By the way, when did - become such a prevailant character in the English language?

Mutant_Fruit

setting upload slots to 0 won't stop you getting prosecuted for illegal downloading, you do realise that don't you?

Malafus

Mutant_Fruit wrote:

setting upload slots to 0 won't stop you getting prosecuted for illegal downloading, you do realise that don't you?

It's the uploaders that are being prosecuted at the moment - leechers are getting away with it, for now.


(That hypen should really have been a semicolon, but I wanted to annoy aidan_walsh )

mel123

as a matter of interest, for the people who use limewire, how much do u think u download??

melekalikimaka

limewire is absolute tripe, i havent used it in3 years, its just such a memory hog, and its files are nearly as bad as kazaa. a good way off doing it is setting up a folder of legal files to use for sharing ans as you download stuff put it in a another folder. i use emule/torrents...if they can't get it, nothing can (disros can be hard to fing sometimes )

smemon

limewire for singles, bitcomet/utorrent...etc for albums. Q.E.D.

of course all of my downloaded singles and albums are perfectly legal and don't infringe any copyright laws.

aidan_walsh

smemon wrote:

limewire for singles, bitcomet/utorrent...etc for albums. Q.E.D.

of course all of my downloaded singles and albums are perfectly legal and don't infringe any copyright laws.

Hur-hur-hur :rolleyes:

Sauron

melekalikimaka wrote:

limewire is absolute tripe, i havent used it in3 years, its just such a memory hog, and its files are nearly as bad as kazaa. a good way off doing it is setting up a folder of legal files to use for sharing ans as you download stuff put it in a another folder. i use emule/torrents...if they can't get it, nothing can (disros can be hard to fing sometimes )

smemon wrote:

limewire for singles, bitcomet/utorrent...etc for albums. Q.E.D.

of course all of my downloaded singles and albums are perfectly legal and don't infringe any copyright laws.

It seems every thread about P2P eventually dissolves into a "which is best" discussion involving some terrible jokes and not-so-very cryptic remarks about how many GBs of Music you have etc...and is inevitably locked... Let's try to keep that from happening.

Of course it's been made clear that both downloading and uploading files with out the consent of the owner is illegal, but does anyone know for sure whether or not it is simply those who upload large amounts of files, or those who do both that are being prosecuted? Does it make a difference?

melekalikimaka

i've only ever hear 'oh my friends FRIEND' never a direct person being prosecuted, i'd be interested to hear off someone its happened to...tis all urban legend at the moment