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what is kyokushinkai karate?

  • 02-04-2006 4:48pm
    #1
    k1challenger
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    does it incorporate k-1 rules as k-1 champions shemmy schilt, andy hug and francisco fhillo all were practioners.


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  • #2
    Roper
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    Its a tough, full contact, bare knuckle style. Its not really like K1, as in Kratty there's no head contact, but it seems to translate well into K1. I think the reason that so many K1 fighters have come from it is because they have tough training methods. If you look at Schilt a few years ago and look at him now you'll see a difference in his movement. I think that's what Kyko lacks a bit, movement and good footwork. But other than that it seems to get results.

    Their training methods I don't agree with though, heavy focus on conditioning of the limbs etc. Not my cup of tea.


  • #3
    FiannaGym.com
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    Go here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyokushinkai

    It doesn't incorporate K-1 rules, just like Mauy Thai. However, just like Mauy Thai its practicioners have some success in K-1.

    Peace


  • #4
    kenpo_dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 426 ✭✭kenpo_dave


    Roper wrote:
    Its a tough, full contact, bare knuckle style. Its not really like K1, as in Kratty there's no head contact, but it seems to translate well into K1. I think the reason that so many K1 fighters have come from it is because they have tough training methods. If you look at Schilt a few years ago and look at him now you'll see a difference in his movement. I think that's what Kyko lacks a bit, movement and good footwork. But other than that it seems to get results.

    Their training methods I don't agree with though, heavy focus on conditioning of the limbs etc. Not my cup of tea.

    Just to correct you there Roper, there is no punches to the head in Kyokushin. Kicks to the head are allowed and are where most KOs come from, as we see in this clip:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3DqMBrUBDk&search=kyokushin

    With regard to footwork, economy of motion is an important factor in Kyokushin, so any unnecessary footwork has been removed.

    OSU,

    Dave.


  • #5
    Valmont
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭Valmont


    The only remaining practical karate discipline. The art has bred some tough fighters. Why wouldn't it? Bare knuckle, kicks and knees to the head. I saw the world championships on Eurosport, awesome. There are no weight categories. If a fight goes the full distance and the three extra rounds, the lighter fighter wins as it is assumed the bigger fighters advantage would have got him the win. Tough ****ers.

    Massan Ghorbani at the Masters Temple in Bray reached the european quarter finals and won the National Iranian championships. I think he is 64kgs.

    Strangely enough he only teaches traditional karate with katas etc... No Kyokushin kai despite his 4th degree black belt in it.


  • #6
    Roper
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    Oops, yes Dave I knew that and meant that!

    I'm aware of the principle behind the lack of footwork but I still think that's a detractor for an otherwise very good art.

    As I said the methods are a different issue. There's no arguing with the results though.


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  • #7
    pearsquasher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭pearsquasher


    Strangely enough he only teaches traditional karate with katas etc... No Kyokushin kai despite his 4th degree black belt in it.

    As far as I understand it, a black belt, even a 4th degree one, doesn't automatically entitle the bearer to teach, in some arts. Maybe this is why? If this is the case then it sounds like this Kyokushin chap is upholding the teachings of the art he has chosen to do and so there'd be nothing strange about that. On the other hand, there could be other reasons but i thought it'd be good to point out that possibility.


  • #8
    Damo W
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭Damo W


    Valmont wrote:
    The only remaining practical karate discipline.

    Hi Valmont,

    A very general statement, what about other full contact styles... 'Nihon Kenpo' I believe fights full contact, boxing gloves, bogu protection, punching to head is allowed, kneeing is allowed as are throws (although somewhat limited by the boxing gloves), granted there are no low kicks in competition... your statement also seems to ignore the other similar kyokushin styles.

    Damien


  • #9
    Millionaire
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭Millionaire


    Yes its a great style.

    I did a little at where Dave trains. In fact I think we sparred, as far as I can remember.

    Its tough training, and the conditioning training tough tough tough!

    Actually WTF TKD is full contact too, well where I trained in, it was full contact, with tough training and tough sparring sessions.


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