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Sometimes I wonder how stupid the media is.

  • 01-04-2006 9:33pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭


    My homepage is www.iol.ie and look at what I found in their Entertainment News section.

    Gay cowboy movie Brokeback Mountain has been banned by authorities in the Bahamas, sparking outrage among gay rights groups.
    This is exactly the crap people have been annoyed at since the film came out. It's not just a gay cowboy movie!

    I then thought that maybe they called it that as a reference to the ban, but I don't think so. What do you think about this?


    Mods, if you want to move this to the L/G/B forum I get that. I'm looking for more "filmy" responses though.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm actually fairly certain that a few cinemas didn't show this movie, as they thought it might have been too controversial.. which is just stupid really. The cinema I work in sold out this movie almost every night the first few months of its release. And it's still doing well!

    The fact that the story revolves around 2 gay cowboys would put alot of people off this movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    My homepage is www.iol.ie and look at what I found in their Entertainment News section.



    It's not just a gay cowboy movie!

    It's not?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭zippo22


    I don't think you can accuse "the media" (whatever that is) of stupidity because of a decision of the Bahamian Film Controls Board.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    zippo22 wrote:
    I don't think you can accuse "the media" (whatever that is) of stupidity because of a decision of the Bahamian Film Controls Board.
    The accusation isn't in relation to the banning it's in relation to the use of the term 'Gay cowboy movie' in the story about it.

    Personally speaking, I would say that it was probably a deliberate choice of words and not stupidity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭zippo22


    The accusation isn't in relation to the banning it's in relation to the use of the term 'Gay cowboy movie' in the story about it.

    Personally speaking, I would say that it was probably a deliberate choice of words and not stupidity.

    Oh right, my mistake. (But I did find it slightly amusing to read that "Gay organisation The Rainbow Alliance were appalled that "...a small minority should try to provide the moral compass for an entire country."..).


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    Well pigeon-holeing it as a gay cowboy movie is a bit much, it makes it sound like some kind of porno


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    TBH, I went into it with the same cynicism as a lot of people. A movie about two gay cowboys who happen to find each other and fall in love - where exactly can that go? They get caught and punished. End of story. Wow. Really groundbreaking. I wanted to see Munich at the time, but my mate was dead keen on Brokeback Mountain so I went along just to appease her. I came out of it in a complete daze. It was mindblowing. Not at all what I expected. It is far more complex than a story about two gay guys. One of them isn't gay for one. Also, it's certainly not a self-congratulatory exercise. There's no moral message there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    flogen wrote:
    Well pigeon-holeing it as a gay cowboy movie is a bit much, it makes it sound like some kind of porno

    All movies get pigeon holed - thats just the way it is.

    The original Rocky is so much more than a film about boxing yet that is what people refer to it as.

    Rambo is far more about just a war yet many people would call in an "action film".

    It's really just a matter of it happening to a film that people feel they need to get upset over.

    Brokeback Mountain , is a movie, it deals with the issue of homosexuality in a relatively unforgiving environment and the characters are cow boys.

    If you were looking for three words to describe it what would they be?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭Hugh Hefner


    Dragan wrote:
    If you were looking for three words to describe it what would they be?
    Well I don't think they have a word limit but whatever. Probably "Ang Lee drama".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Well I don't think they have a word limit but whatever. Probably "Ang Lee drama".

    Course the do, written media revolves around word limits.

    At the end of the day, they draw attention to the article the way they can. You read it and you felt a response, good or bad. The article did it's job.

    Either way the film is a gay cowboy movie, the same way as you are a "random net user" does that mean that is all you are????

    Not at all, it really all just depends on how upset people let themselves become over simple things. :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭ObeyGiant


    google wrote:
    Results 1 - 10 of about 227,000 for "gay cowboy movie". (0.30 seconds)
    google wrote:
    Results 1 - 10 of about 477 for "ang lee drama". (0.52 seconds)
    Joking aside, I think that there are two reasons for their choice of words here. First is the fact that the term "Gay Cowboy Movie" became a convenient shorthand for this movie during its release and especially in the runup to the oscars. It almost became its unofficial title (the Turks took this a little far and bootleg DVDs were labelled "**** Cowboys"). I think either Empire or Hotdog made a joke in their review of Brokeback about how they almost made it through the entire review without using the phrase "Gay Cowboy Movie"

    But then there's the other possibility: the news story is about how this movie relates to the gay community. I'm not saying it would be my choice of opening line, but at least it lets you know straight out that this is an article dealing with the sexuality in Brokeback Mountain.

    Also, FYI, this appears to be a syndicated news story, not actually written by IOL.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    I'm actually fairly certain that a few cinemas didn't show this movie, as they thought it might have been too controversial.. which is just stupid really.

    Cineplex in Waterford didn't show Brokeback Mountain or Breakfast on Pluto as they were deemed too controversial, the cinema in Dungarven and in Kilkenny def showed Breakfast on Pluto...not sure about Brokeback.

    Ah we're in the modern age! :rolleyes: :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭meldrew


    Cabaal wrote:
    Cineplex in Waterford didn't show Brokeback Mountain or Breakfast on Pluto as they were deemed too controversial, the cinema in Dungarven and in Kilkenny def showed Breakfast on Pluto...not sure about Brokeback.

    Ah we're in the modern age! :rolleyes: :(
    I always thought when a film was'nt shown in Waterford it was down to the row between the company and the distributors but that is a totally different story , who exactly decides what films to show and which ones not to ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭Cinamon Girl


    Brokeback Mountain was a love story about a forbidden love, the strongest type of love there is. The fact that it was about 2 men and caused such a stir tells us we need more of this type of film. Gay men and women need love because it is a human need.

    I thought the movie was great for the way the director was continually showing us the differences in the personalities of the 2 guys. One strong (or not gay) the other having the gentler persona.

    Hard to find a movie that you can't stop thinking about for days afterwards. This was one.


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