Comp networking salarys

underworld

Is there good money in computer networking,heard there are not many jobs going in this area at the mo...would you be better off going to the states to earn some money in this???

irishguy

What do you mean by computer networking? Laying the cable...Network admin...IT manager and yes their are jobs in it. The money you get will depend on what kind of job you are looking for

johny28

underworld wrote:

Is there good money in computer networking,heard there are not many jobs going in this area at the mo...would you be better off going to the states to earn some money in this???

Depending on the job and on the company ..
look at this link http://www.cpl.ie/salary2005.asp

but what type of comp network jobs you mean ?is it network administration or support or network support management or network security...?

Thanks

elvis2002

who told you there are no jobs in Comp Net?? There are more than you can apply for. Pay for first years will range from 25 to 30,000.

bush

How hard is it to get into? Would you get into it with a diploma in IT and a ccna? Is a ccna valuable in Ireland?

irishguy

bush wrote:

How hard is it to get into? Would you get into it with a diploma in IT and a ccna? Is a ccna valuable in Ireland?

You will need a degree to get into any field these days, diplomas are being phased out in all IT's as they are not really sufficient. Having a CCNA or any industry accreditation is very useful, but especially the Cisco ones.

elvis2002

Im finishing up my degree in Computer Networking in May and already I have a number of interviews lined up. There are plenty of jobs out there. If you look at irishjobs.ie you'll see though many jobs have a minimum 2:1 Degree. CCNA is only important for Comp Science students or Programmers I think who have no networking knowledge. If your doing a networking course you don't need it. The CCNA course is the very basic basic stuff and guarantees you nothing.

underworld

Its just that u hear alot about graduates not getting any jobs after finishing their degrees,(prob comp science grads)im currently doing a comp networking degree course but only in first year...it was good to hear u have interviews lined up already...
computer security would be good to get into id say that pays well..only thing about the course is theres no work experience through out the 4 years which sucks but its good so far so what the heck... does the 6 month work placement really count that much???

irishguy

underworld wrote:

Its just that u hear alot about graduates not getting any jobs after finishing their degrees,(prob comp science grads)im currently doing a comp networking degree course but only in first year...it was good to hear u have interviews lined up already...
computer security would be good to get into id say that pays well..only thing about the course is theres no work experience through out the 4 years which sucks but its good so far so what the heck... does the 6 month work placement really count that much???

I wouldn’t listen to people who say they cant get a job, they aren’t trying if they aren’t getting interviews. I am finishing in May and i have had interviews for 4 companies already with another 3 more in the next month (Should have a job offer in about 2weeks). Everyone i know in IT that are looking for jobs dont have a problem getting them and the money is quite good too

elvis2002

i have to say, IMHO, it may or not be true but I when I hear people saying they can't find jobs I just laugh. Either they dont have the qualifications, or they just have a paper degree without any actual knowledge, i.e. got their degree by winging the exams and as a result they get shown up in the interviews but they then turn around and say 'there are no jobs'.

I got an interview this thursday with one of the biggest networking companies in the world and Im not even graduated yet but they are still very interested. I find that the networking courses have much better job prospects than comp science courses. If you had a telecom interview there would be no compare between the two. A comp science guy with CCNA will no nothing about the in's and out's of networks.

colincarnate

elvis2002 wrote:

i have to say, IMHO, it may or not be true but I when I hear people saying they can't find jobs I just laugh. Either they dont have the qualifications, or they just have a paper degree without any actual knowledge, i.e. got their degree by winging the exams and as a result they get shown up in the interviews but they then turn around and say 'there are no jobs'.

I got an interview this thursday with one of the biggest networking companies in the world and Im not even graduated yet but they are still very interested. I find that the networking courses have much better job prospects than comp science courses. If you had a telecom interview there would be no compare between the two. A comp science guy with CCNA will no nothing about the in's and out's of networks.

a very valid post but i'm a guy who's comp sci grad with ccna and experience and know what i'm talking about (just trust me ok) and it's very hard to get well paying jobs.
imho celtic tiger let anyone into IT jobs with a 'typed cv' now all the companies learned their lesson and are being very frugal with jobs.

irishguy

colincarnate wrote:

a very valid post but i'm a guy who's comp sci grad with ccna and experience and know what i'm talking about (just trust me ok) and it's very hard to get well paying jobs.
imho celtic tiger let anyone into IT jobs with a 'typed cv' now all the companies learned their lesson and are being very frugal with jobs.

If you have linux experience you will not have a problem getting a job. A friend of mine has a CCNA + Comp sci degree and 2 years experience and ppl are falling over themselves to give him a job. Granted he does know his stuff. If your a linux head contact vmware they are looking for 150 or so ppl in cork and the money is quite good.

underworld

Do ye think a degree in networking,but no work experience is such a bad thing???

damnyanks

It all depends on what you apply for. Graduate programs don't care so much if you have experience or not. If you are applying as a direct hire they will care.

Try and find a company that gives you a lot of exposure to different area's of the business. You learn a lot more, technical knowledge is only useful up to a point.

mountainyman

elvis2002 wrote:

... degree in Computer Networking...

Diploma in IT and CCNA is fine. Networking is a good field. It is boring but routers always have to be configured and so forth that can't be done in India.

As for the crap about needing a degree to get into this field, bollox, networking admin roles don't require degrees. A CCIE is perhaps the best paid pure technician role in IT no degree required.

It shouldn't be possible to do Computer Networking asas a degree. Don't lie to the guy to make yourselves feel good.

MM

elvis2002

mountainyman wrote:

It shouldn't be possible to do Computer Networking asas a degree. Don't lie to the guy to make yourselves feel good.
MM

WHAT? You make a statement like that without any backup to as why.

I have a degree in Comp Networking. Its more than knowledge of a router now for god sake. That is first year and very basic stuff indeed.

Topics like GSM, 3G, SS7, MPLS, PABXs, PDH, SDH, ATM, Spread Spectrum are whats learned in Computer Networking Degree's. Very technical stuff and thats just the bare bones. Thats why I laugh everytime I read someone saying they know all about Linux so therefore they know all about networking.

If two people are going for a job to say configure DSLAMs or write Management Software for a 3G network. One is Comp Science, the other is Comp Networking. The Networking guy will already know nearly everything in theory about the job but will suffer with any progamming involved but should have enough Java skills to learn quickly. The computer science guy will probably be wondering what a DSLAM is and thinks of 3G as a phone.

A Computer Networking Degree I think is the best degree you can get in Ireland in Computers. There is such as advantage over Science people in every Telecoms Job BUT as the programming knowledge wont be as strong.

Selket

elvis2002 wrote:

Topics like GSM, 3G, SS7, MPLS, PABXs, PDH, SDH, ATM, Spread Spectrum are whats learned in Computer Networking Degree's. Very technical stuff and thats just the bare bones. Thats why I laugh everytime I read someone saying they know all about Linux so therefore they know all about networking.

If two people are going for a job to say configure DSLAMs or write Management Software for a 3G network. One is Comp Science, the other is Comp Networking. The Networking guy will already know nearly everything in theory about the job but will suffer with any progamming involved but should have enough Java skills to learn quickly. The computer science guy will probably be wondering what a DSLAM is and thinks of 3G as a phone.

Firstly, I acknowledge the fact that everybody has there own opinion but I'm afraid I think that you are being very naive. Do you seriously believe that GSM 3G etc is only done on computer networking courses? Did you not do any research before you picked your degree? Do you honestly think that the only thing done on a computer science degree is programming???

I graduated last year with what would be considered a Comp Sci degree. I had two job offers from leading companies by this time last year and a further two by the time I finished my finals. I work as a network eng for an international company and I can tell you that the letters after my name did not matter one bit. It was the subjects I had taken and my experience that were most important.

Also, there is a Hell of a lot more to n/w admin/eng then mobile communication theory. I'll stop now otherwise I could rant all night

kippy

Im finishing up my degree in Computer Networking in May and already I have a number of interviews lined up. There are plenty of jobs out there. If you look at irishjobs.ie you'll see though many jobs have a minimum 2:1 Degree. CCNA is only important for Comp Science students or Programmers I think who have no networking knowledge. If your doing a networking course you don't need it. The CCNA course is the very basic basic stuff and guarantees you nothing.

I would disagree with a lot of that.
They might say you need a 2.1 degree but never let that put you off applying for jobs.....
I havent gotten a degree just a bog standard cert-I have applied for an gotten a number of jobs over the past few years that have asked for degree level qualifications without any problems.....
And-the CCNA is a pre req for most - if not all- of the Cisco qualifications. If you havent done any cisco specific stuff in college ( most colleges dont) then its a most valuable cert to have.
All of these Vendor certs hold some level of value, the value varies on the job you are applying for and the person interviewing you for the post.....in some cases people would value one year experience in network admin and a CCNA more than a degree.

There are a lot of jobs in the Dublin area in Networking at the moment.
Just apply for what you think you can do and hopefully you will get lucky and get a decent job for decent money.
Kippy

parsi

elvis2002 wrote:

WHAT? You make a statement like that without any backup to as why.

I have a degree in Comp Networking. Its more than knowledge of a router now for god sake. That is first year and very basic stuff indeed.

Topics like GSM, 3G, SS7, MPLS, PABXs, PDH, SDH, ATM, Spread Spectrum are whats learned in Computer Networking Degree's. Very technical stuff and thats just the bare bones.

Ya better stay where you are for another while - you left out other acronyms like ITIL, VOIP, ISDN (still important), GVPN and I'm sure loads of others that crop up rarely but need to be remembered in order to look good...

You may also find that a network admin job is less configuring the routers and more dealing with the users...

elvis2002

parsi wrote:

Ya better stay where you are for another while - you left out other acronyms like ITIL, VOIP, ISDN (still important), GVPN and I'm sure loads of others that crop up rarely but need to be remembered in order to look good...
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I only gave a short mention of some protocols man. Anything you can think of we have done. Also I never said anywhere that Mobile theory was 'networking' and nothing else is. I also never said that computer science courses dont do GSM or 3G. I would suspect computer science course's dont go into the detail that pure networking courses would in any telecommunications field.

parsi wrote:

You may also find that a network admin job is less configuring the routers and more dealing with the users

Did I say it wasnt?