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All-in vs. building pot

  • 24-03-2006 10:53am
    #1
    LaPalla
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10 ✭


    A thing I'm often unsure of when drawing before the turn is whether to slowly build a pot hoping to hit and hanging on to my chips if I don't hit, or else just push and have two ways to win - everyone folds or get a caller and I hit - but I'm cleaned out if called and don't hit.
    I know there's no "in general" for these situations so I'll be a bit more specific:

    I have 30 big blinds mid stage tourny. On the flop I have an open ended straight and 4 card flush draw and two overcards! So I'm a slight favourite to hit I think. Is there any time you wouldn't be happy to be all in here, when you expect just 1 caller? What if you didn't have the overcards, so you're now an underdog?

    This might be a fairly clear-cut decision for you guys, I'd be curious to hear.


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  • #2
    brianmc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 868 ✭✭✭brianmc


    LaPalla wrote:
    A thing I'm often unsure of when drawing before the turn is whether to slowly build a pot hoping to hit and hanging on to my chips if I don't hit, or else just push and have two ways to win - everyone folds or get a caller and I hit - but I'm cleaned out if called and don't hit.
    I know there's no "in general" for these situations so I'll be a bit more specific:

    I have 30 big blinds mid stage tourny. On the flop I have an open ended straight and 4 card flush draw and two overcards! So I'm a slight favourite to hit I think. Is there any time you wouldn't be happy to be all in here, when you expect just 1 caller? What if you didn't have the overcards, so you're now an underdog?

    This might be a fairly clear-cut decision for you guys, I'd be curious to hear.

    I wouldn't call it clear cut. (Maybe others would.)

    (This is all based on tournament play)

    You are likely the favourite to win so you would be happy to call your opponents all-in.

    If your opponent isn't being the aggressor though you may want to try and take the pot down with a bet as in any other situation. You're not a huge favourite though, (until you hit) so (personally) I wouldn't be aiming to build the pot too big, especially if you miss on the turn.

    If it's the type of tournament that a lot of the ones around Dublin are (i.e. relatively short blind levels, not particularly deep stacked) then I'd be somewhat inclined to jam my chips in early as the favourite if I can. If you delay until your card hits it may kill your action, i.e. If the flush hits on the turn your opponent is likely to spot it too and you don't get paid off.


  • #3
    FrankieAces
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭FrankieAces


    I think I'd be inclined to push here. This seems favourable to me? How many outs are we talking here, about 19 (8 (open st) + 9 (flush dr) + 2 (overcards))? Given all outs are good enough, approximately that would make it 19 * 4 = 76% (less, maybe 68-70%) chance of hitting on the turn and 19 * 2 = 38% on the river. I'd take the role of aggressor and push it all before the turn. If he folds u take down the pot, if not odds are favourable.


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