Guess Players Xs Cards

ianmc38

SE Cash game last night. Player X is the SB. I raise to 7 in LP with AcKc. Player X calls.

Flop is AT5 no clubs. Player X checks I bet €25. Before the turn is dealt player X checks. Turn card is a 2. I bet €25 again, player X calls.
Again, player X checks before the river is dealt. River is a 4.

I check behind.

Player X has?

BigDragon

2c3c

El Stuntman

33

eggie

A 3o:eek:

White Knight

QJ fish

jhegarty

a flush draw for player X ?

you don't say what suit the flop cards are...

either that or second pair....

careca

7hJd. ie nothing to do with the board at all.

BigDragon

ianmc38 wrote:

Before the turn is dealt player X checks.
Player X has?

Player X loves doing this btw

fixer

pair or gutshot on the flop. straight, pair+gutshot or two pair on the turn. beats you six ways from sunday if you bet it.

fuzzbox

Who cares - bet the pot on the turn

ianmc38

fuzzbox wrote:

Who cares - bet the pot on the turn

That would have been a good idea.

Player X with a smile turns over 24o.

He then proceeds to tell me how he won 30000 chips with 24o in Citywest as he's sleazing over the waitresses. Great.

Then he recounts the story of how he got done for 5k in a tourney when he did the 1st deal of his life.

Then tells everyone how the etiquette is gone from poker as he's checking before the cards have even been dealt.

He may or may not have thrown in the rest of his life story in between but I was 90% comatosed at that point from sheer boredom and couldn't hear a word he was saying.

cardshark202

Player X is a good guy who enjoys having a laugh around the table. He has a phenomal record in the big events and has said himself that he never takes the small tourneys seriously. He is a good player, very tough to put on a hand as you say.

fuzzbox

In fairness Ian - he had implied odds on the flop, so he calls, trying to spike a 3, against your likely big A, that might pay him off cos he's so weird.

On the turn, you give him pot odds, he figures any 2 any 3 or any 4, for a total of 9 outs, and you only bet 25 into a 75 pot. Ok not quite good odds, but again, you probably pay him off if he hits one.

Of course, he makes a mistake on the river by not betting, which you may or may not call.

Pot the turn, and he folds.

ianmc38

cardshark202 wrote:

Player X is a good guy who enjoys having a laugh around the table. He has a phenomal record in the big events and has said himself that he never takes the small tourneys seriously. He is a good player, very tough to put on a hand as you say.

I never said he was tough to put on a hand.

And why bother playing the small tourneys if he's not going to take them seriously. I've seen him make some of the worst plays i've ever seen in tourneys like these and on cash tables in various casinos.

He can be amusing occasionally.

ianmc38

fuzzbox wrote:

Pot the turn, and he folds.

I can guarantee you he doesn't. He's called off alot more than €75 with a gutshot against me before.

He may have thought he had implied odds, but in reality i wasn't going to pay him off if he hit.

I checked behind on the river as I thought he had 23. I should have made the turn a little more expensive as he wouldn't have called a bet on the river unless he hit, but I didnt want him folding.

fuzzbox

ianmc38 wrote:

I can guarantee you he doesn't. He's called off alot more than €75 with a gutshot against me before.

He may have thought he had implied odds, but in reality i wasn't going to pay him off if he hit.

Then pot the turn, and he calls getting terrible odds (2:1 on a 4:1 shot).

Actually - you gave him 4:1, he had to call 25 to win 100.

ollyk1

ianmc38 wrote:

I can guarantee you he doesn't. He's called off alot more than €75 with a gutshot against me before.

Ian,

He's playing a very long run meta game strategy to stack you and to encourage you to give him cheap draws in the future. It's very subtle

In fairness Player X is almost a rite of passage of playing poker in Dublin. He appears to have a tilting effect on you Ian - thats what he lives for. If you take that away from him and can play your game (like potting the turn when you know you should) then he steers clear of you. If not well you'll be in pots with him 50% of the time you play at his table.

BigDragon

ianmc38 wrote:

Then tells everyone how the etiquette is gone from poker as he's checking before the cards have even been dealt.

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Just wait till you call a preflop raise and hit the board and call when he moves in on the turn Then you'll see real etiqutte.

Olly is right though, a Player X story is a maturing rite in Dublin poker.

ianmc38

I got a good laugh when I saw how he exited in Citywest. It was with 24o.

smurph

ianmc38 wrote:

I got a good laugh when I saw how he exited in Citywest. It was with 24o.

Ah I see the light, it all falls into place, I now know who Player X is, and I can never put him on a hand, which probably is the whole point. He has made more final tables, and is a serious force to contend with when he has chips. I never got big prize in big tournament, and until I do i'll watch his play take notes and go for broke

ianmc38

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