Rocky Films

Catullus

I've recently gotten into watching these on sky one when they come on and I have to admit... they are the absolute stuff of legend.
For some reason I had written these off as dross but au contraire mon frere, the masterpiece quality of these films is only apparent to me now on the cusp of my thirties. The eye of the tiger training music, when he runs with the kids to the top of the steps, that is an absolutely classic scene in cinema!!

The years I've spent overlooking the genius of Rocky!! And the best part of all is that IV is next week... Ivan Drago.. the best one of them all!!

Kinetic^

It's a pity about number 5, it should really be stricken from all known records and the new film coming out should be number 5. Tommy "The Machine" Gunn, sucked ass big time, terrible film. I liked the other 4, especially number 3.

elurhs

Well they're great if viewed as an action-type, switch off your brain films.

The one problem I have is that original Rocky was such a good film all round, but its been tainted a bit by the sequels. The whole premise of the first film was the underdog getting his chance, the washed up fighter with one shot at greatness. Rocky busted a gut training, was in the best shape of his life, went into the ring with Creed, fought his heart out, BUT STILL LOST! However, he won back his self esteem and the respect of Apollo Creed. Creed knew he had been in a fight and his "No rematch, no rematch" to Rocky at the end is a great moment. It's just a shame they did rematch, and the films slowly got worse and descended into the type of cliches that the first film avoided.

Still, I take your point that they are just fun to watch. Mr T. as Clubber Lang is feckin scary!!

Maxwell

Agree - 5 shouldn't have been made.

1-4 are really enjoyable and you have to take your hat off to Stallone for changing his body the way he did. I am watching them again on sky 2 and the difference between him in Rocky 2 and and Rocky 3 is amazing.

petes

Already looking forward to Rocky IV next week. Won't bother with V though.

Bodhidharma

Rocky single handedly ended the cold war. Think about it, Rocky IV came out in 85, this was around the begining of the thaw. A few years later the Soviet Union was no more.

The speech at the end of the Drago fight. What a man! Seriously, "if i can change, then you can change, and everyone can change". It brought the Russkies to their feet. John Lennon never put it so well.

Zulu

Rocky IV. I don't know. What can I say?
The scene when he's chopping logs and lifting stones, while Ivan Drako is in a top notch gym... ...cinematic ecstasy!

emma6606

I too am a sworn Rocky fan... guess wat - I got the DVD from Ebay, all 5 films on one disk for £4.99 !!!!!!
Hey, ive heard rumours of a Rocky VI - like a geriatric version or something,
anyone else heard bout that?

Zulu

emma6606 wrote:

I too am a sworn Rocky fan... guess wat - I got the DVD from Ebay, all 5 films on one disk for £4.99 !!!!!!
Hey, ive heard rumours of a Rocky VI - like a geriatric version or something,
anyone else heard bout that?

I have indeed. It appears Sly want to do a "I'm still a man" version to tackle issues about men getting old etc.. Naturally he won't win, but I truly hope it never gets made.

Kingp35

Zulu wrote:

I have indeed. It appears Sly want to do a "I'm still a man" version to tackle issues about men getting old etc.. Naturally he won't win, but I truly hope it never gets made.

Sorry to disappoint you but Rocky 6 or "Rocky Balboa" as its called is finished filming and is now in post-production.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0479143/

Kinetic^

Here's a teaser for you lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5II-BBVQMvU&search=Rocky%20Balboa

Bodhidharma

Yeah its true. Rocky VI, he's goin fightin Roy Jones Jr i heard. Now that is the fight RJ needs to get back to the top. I also read somewhere that he was gonna be fightin Antonio Tarver.

heres some news :

http://www.totalrocky.com/news/rockyvi.html

Catullus

ladies and gentlemen: the trailer:

http://www.filecabi.net/u.php?file=1142037390.wmv

LundiMardi

I have the box set also, true cinema classics!! Who else started shadow boxing after the films ended when they were kids? heh, cool:cool:

Kinetic^

Actor Dolph Lundgren told B & K Sports Magazine in January, 2003 that Sylvester Stallone may be writing his character, Ivan Drago, into the film. "Sly's writing a new Rocky, the sixth one, and tells me he's going to try and write Ivan Drago in it. There's no way I'd miss out on an opportunity on sparring with Balboa again. In my opinion Rocky IV was one of the best Rocky sequels. Not the least - the better of my films."

That's probably the only intelligent thing this guy has ever said.

Zulu

LundiMardi wrote:

I have the box set also, true cinema classics!! Who else started shadow boxing after the films ended when they were kids? heh, cool:cool:

Shadow boxing!?! Unfortunatly for us, we had an older cousin that boxed, so we use to take a glove each and leather each other.

LundiMardi

Is Adrian dead in this new outting? It says on imdb that she's in it, but it's only archive footage, i can just imagine the flashbacks in this movie!! pure cheese.

I love the first 3 rocky flicks, and the first time i saw 4 i loved it, but seeing it again last year I realised its pretty appalling! There is some great bits but generally it pails in comparison. The most important thing is that Bill conti is not on the tunes and there is no rocky anthem which takes away big time. watching 5 is hard, at some points you question how a film this bad can get made but it was.
Rocky 1 by the way beat All the Presidents Men and Network to win the oscar for best picture that year.
Who said Sly had no talent?!

Zulu

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Rocky 1 by the way beat All the Presidents Men and Network to win the oscar for best picture that year.
Who said Sly had no talent?!

...and Taxi Driver. It's worth noting the Sly wrote it aswell.

The story goes (and please correct me if I'm wrong):
Sly wrote it and wanted to get it made, but the people he origionally went to told him they'd buy it off him only. He held onto it, as he wanted to act in it aswell, and one thing lead to another and he finally got the backing to make it. (Launching his acting career)


...so I've been led to believe.

Cactus Col

Watched Rocky III the other night as well, had forgotten how homoerotic the training montage was! Must be up there with Top Gun.

BrenC

I thought 4 was great, I really liked them all, the production diaries for the 6 one are on the web

LundiMardi

I am actually looking forward to this movie, i think we'll all be pleasantly surprised!

meldrew

Jaysis Sly does'nt look bad for 60 ! He was knocked unconcious when filming and everyone thought it was part of the act!

Hugh Hefner

Ah, the Rocky films are great. Really great. You can't not love at least one. Bring on VI!

Ruu_Old

Ah rocky 5 was a mistake. Some of the greatest quotes was rocky 3

Clubber Lang:"Hey, woman! Hey, woman! Listen here, since your old man ain't got no heart, maybe you'd like to see a real man! I bet you stay up late every night dreaming you had a real man, don't you? Why don't you bring your pretty little self over to my apartment tonight, and I'll show you a real man!"

Rocky III quotoes

flogen

Just watching a clip on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjSU_MtvLpQ&search=rocky%20balboa) where he says he didn't like the way the last one turned out... I wonder if this will erase that from Rocky history?!

TOPDAWG

Ive posted this somewhere before but when i was america last summer i was reading Sly's magazine (imaginatively called SLY) and it had an extract from the movie script in it and it was actually pretty good and when i got to the end of it i was like MORE! NEED MORE! ha ha.

Hopefully it will banish the bad memories of 5.

Bodhidharma

I heard the opening sequence of the new film is Rocky at Adrien's funeral. Thats lousy. I feel sorry for Rock. 1st he gets brain damage, then Paulie loses all his money, then he's got to move into a crappy neighbourhood, now Adrien is dead.
I dont know how Rock is gonna cope, lucky he's got Paulie to rely on. I presume Paulie's reponse will be to drink whiskey,wear a stupid hat and generally be smelly.

BlackSabbath

Catullus wrote:

I've recently gotten into watching these on sky one when they come on and I have to admit... they are the absolute stuff of legend.
For some reason I had written these off as dross but au contraire mon frere, the masterpiece quality of these films is only apparent to me now on the cusp of my thirties. The eye of the tiger training music, when he runs with the kids to the top of the steps, that is an absolutely classic scene in cinema!!

The years I've spent overlooking the genius of Rocky!! And the best part of all is that IV is next week... Ivan Drago.. the best one of them all!!

these movies are good but not meant to take seriously. the first one was somewhat brilliant, but the four that came out after have no plot whatsoever. they make zero sense. i hate how stallone makes himself look like god in his movies and everyone else looks like crap. horrible, horrible actor.

Nike_Dude

elurhs wrote:

Well they're great if viewed as an action-type, switch off your brain films.

The one problem I have is that original Rocky was such a good film all round, but its been tainted a bit by the sequels. The whole premise of the first film was the underdog getting his chance, the washed up fighter with one shot at greatness. Rocky busted a gut training, was in the best shape of his life, went into the ring with Creed, fought his heart out, BUT STILL LOST! However, he won back his self esteem and the respect of Apollo Creed. Creed knew he had been in a fight and his "No rematch, no rematch" to Rocky at the end is a great moment. It's just a shame they did rematch, and the films slowly got worse and descended into the type of cliches that the first film avoided.

Still, I take your point that they are just fun to watch. Mr T. as Clubber Lang is feckin scary!!

have to agree each film got progressively worse until the fifth one is utter dross.

I think this one might be quite good though, especially as it is meant to open with Rocky at adrian's grave. I think I remember reading somewhere that it was adapted from a comic sly wrote about Rocky, not sure about this though could someone confirm/deny this??

Running Bing

I cant believe people are giving iv such an easy time. Im a huge Rocky fan but part four was without a doubt in my mind one of the worst films ever made. Rocky i was just a great great movie, Rocky ii is actually underatted as a movie in my opinion and is also class, Rocky iii is just pure fun and possibly one of the most entertaining movies ever, but four is horrible. the movie is the shortest out of them all and includes montages that go for over half the film and that stupid James Brown scene that seems to go on for five hundred years, what does that say about the film?. Then the end when he gets the whole russian government to stand to its feet by saying "we can all change"lol c'mon. It has also aged appalingly and the music is the cheesiest and most cliched I have ever heard in any movie. Just listen to the song where rocky arrives in Russia the lyrics are painful to listen to.

flogen

is it three or four where the robot appears??

BlackSabbath

Babybing wrote:

I cant believe people are giving iv such an easy time. Im a huge Rocky fan but part four was without a doubt in my mind one of the worst films ever made. Rocky i was just a great great movie, Rocky ii is actually underatted as a movie in my opinion and is also class, Rocky iii is just pure fun and possibly one of the most entertaining movies ever, but four is horrible. the movie is the shortest out of them all and includes montages that go for over half the film and that stupid James Brown scene that seems to go on for five hundred years, what does that say about the film?. Then the end when he gets the whole russian government to stand to its feet by saying "we can all change"lol c'mon. It has also aged appalingly and the music is the cheesiest and most cliched I have ever heard in any movie. Just listen to the song where rocky arrives in Russia the lyrics are painful to listen to.

sylvester stallone just sucks. period.

LundiMardi

yeah, Oscars are just given away aren't they. :rolleyes:

BlackSabbath

LundiMardi wrote:

yeah, Oscars are just given away aren't they. :rolleyes:

actually they are.:cool: i don't think you know movies=art=100% subjective.

Running Bing

LundiMardi wrote:

yeah, Oscars are just given away aren't they. :rolleyes:

One word "Titanic"

Running Bing

But sly still rocks:D

Pigman II

I was worried there that rocky was a gonner last night! But once he bloodied the russian I always felt he had a chance.

And what about that speech at the end? Forget the Hoff, surely *that* was the beginning of the end of the Cold War!

Concannon7

I cant enjoy the Rocky films whan I have to watch him actually fight in the film. They could as least have made the boxing somewhat realistic. Its terrible to watch the boxing matches.

Also the "If I can change, you can change" speech is very cringeworthy.

ziggy

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Running Bing

Galway_mad_bhoy wrote:

I cant enjoy the Rocky films whan I have to watch him actually fight in the film. They could as least have made the boxing somewhat realistic.

Yes in all his years of intense boxing training rocky never seemed to grasp the consept of actually lifting his hands above his chest. He should stop chasing chickens and chopping wood and concentrate on his guard.:D