Winning Eleven 10

nialldinho

Anybody got any news on this? It's released on 27th April.

Do you reckon it'll be worth getting if you already have WE9?

mise

yeah saw that the other day, but couldnt find much else about it.
Find is strange that there seems to be so little info on it, being released so soon.

edit: just read this, so hopefully we'll have some news later today
http://www.pesinsight.com/showpost.php?p=608360

and this for $5 off preorder with play-asia.com
http://www.pesinsight.com/showpost.php?p=592622

dar83

News conference today, nothing too much revealed as of yet, apart from some rumour confirmations that have been known for a couple of weeks. It's the same with every WE release though, we get fed very little up until the last week or two.
Some screen shots released but graphics are already known not to be one of the main improvement departments, as the PS2 has hit its limits.

http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=29572

For all the updates as they happen. We have our news men scouring Asian webspace trying to uncover the smallest of details/ news.

kensutz

This year's Winning Eleven is coming out a bit earlier than usual, Konami's announced, so that everyone will have it in time for the World Cup.

Reports based on a Famitsu preview and an unveiling event earlier today also identify some of the changes fans of the series - known as Pro Evolution Soccer in the west - can expect from the game, which is being released on PS2 in Japan on 27th April.

Player animation is a big deal, as ever, we're told - with shooting animations in particular coming in for close scrutiny by the development team.
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According to reports on the Famitsu piece, producer Seabass and his team are also introducing a Simple Setting, which automates things like formations and substitutions - which should be enormously useful for those without the time or patience to learn the subtleties of Winning Eleven's hugely complex and versatile stat system. There's also talk of simplifying passing, shooting and through balls.

Apparently the refs have been reined in a bit too, and won't give so many free-kicks - something that annoyed people when initially adapting to last year's versions, which made it much harder to gain possession just by pressing forcefully.

Most of the other changes mentioned are to do with game modes - Master League, for example, will now allow you to select whether you want players to age or not. There will also be a new International Challenge mode, where you get to take part in regional qualifying for a World Cup of sorts.

Speaking of which, the amount of licensing has gone up - apparently the English, Italian, Dutch, Spanish and Argentinean national teams are now licensed.

On top of that there'll be a Random Selection Match, allowing you play as teams comprised entirely of randomly selected players - which is good news for those of you who play random teams during lunchtime or after the pub, anyway.

Finally, there's talk of a quick start feature that lets you skip through all the pre-match hoo-hah by pressing L1 and R1 together when prompted.

Expect much of this information to be clarified by Konami when it inevitably unveils Pro Evolution Soccer 6, which should also be released on a much wider range of formats than Winning Eleven usually is; expect PES6 to appear on PS2, PC, Xbox 360, PSP and perhaps others sometime later this year.

nialldinho

it sounds good enough so i went ahead and pre-ordered it! if even just to be rid of those damn whistle-happy refs!

dar83

A new WE is always worth it.

It's kind of a tradition now, I just have to get them, no questions.

nialldinho

yeah, i'm getting that way myself!

i checked out that evo-web thread yesterday but i just couldn't be arsed trawling through the whole xbox360/next-gen discussion that was going on in the middle.

hopefully some helpful person over there will get translating it straight away so maybe by the time my copy arrives i'll be able to patch it!

dar83

The very first post is always updated with the important stuff anyway.

And yes, Fernando will be on it as soon as it's available, as he always is.

kensutz

I got it, starting Master League now but cant figure out which is which

nialldinho

thought it wasn't released til thursday..

kensutz

It isn't but I got it. Played it until half 4 this morning then up again at 9 and playing it since.

nialldinho

i didn't really think before posting that. should really have figured out where people got it straight away!

reviews on evo-web sound good. can't believe fernando's already has a basic translation patch out!

can't wait to get my copy.

kensutz

The translation is only very basic like he said. The main menu is in Japanese but at the bottom there's a basic translation. Tactics and stuff like that are still hard to figure out because there's so much to go through. Gameplay wise its an improvement. Sometimes the keepers spill the ball from shots making scrambles in the box happen more often. Shooting is better and tackling like reported is better with fouls not happening too often. I had 3 sent off in my first game where you pick the best players at Random from an area but they were deserved red cards.

dar83

The formation screen is a nightmare at the moment, haha.

Everything else seems really good, no slowdown, crowd is back (if not worse than ever ) and the advantage system seems to finally be sorted out for the best.

KdjaCL

Any patches for it yet

Cmon Dar you should be prepared , link to patch ???......:)


kdjac

kensutz

dar83 wrote:

The formation screen is a nightmare at the moment, haha.

Everything else seems really good, no slowdown, crowd is back (if not worse than ever ) and the advantage system seems to finally be sorted out for the best.

I can barely figure the formation screen, I have a mate who's wife is Japanese who's gonna help me out with translations. He's currently on his way back to Japan for meetings so will be back on line later.

kensutz

Dar anysign of an english name option file about?

KdjaCL

Go evo web

http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=30743

Mini patch.



kdjac

kensutz

Got that already but no english names on it.

dar83

The option file will take a while, as people have been using PC based editors to make the option files in the last year or so.

It's all well and good with an editied Para.bin file, but when loading them up on a new WE, the names are all set to "default" on the option file, so the new game keeps them default.
It's down to someone to either have an OF they made themselves for WE9, or else someone starting one from scratch.

Fernando is working as we speak, you've already found the first patch, more will follow shortly from what I can see.

nialldinho

Yes! My copy shipped from play-asia today!

I'm regretting choosing the cheapo "Airmail Economy Bubble" postage now though. Anybody any idea how long that will take to get to Dublin?

KdjaCL

Partial option files on Evo web now, would link but by the time i do they will have been updated


kdjac

PESrules

got we10 yesterday its brill

the goals are much more realistic

dar83

Bad news on the translation front though, looks like Fernando has quit. Not too suprising, he was finding it harder to find the time every release and he's just fed up with the money making fúckers using his patch to fill their pockets.

I've not had a chance to check yet (been in college all day) but I guess our next hope is that Reefur will decide to do a translation, just as he did for his WE8:JL patch. Here's hoping....

nialldinho

what ever happened to reefur?

his site vanished as he was in the middle of a mega we9 patch..

dar83

ISP troubles.

He's still around, you just need to know the right places to look.
No signs from him yet as to whether he'll be doing a translation or not, but if anything develops I'll let you guys know.

I got the game , its at home but i am yet to play it. Cant wait to give it a try.

nialldinho

mind if i ask where you ordered from and what shipping you chose?

can't wait to get mine!

dar83

The translation work will be continued.

No more news as of yet, but what Fernando began, will be carried on and finished.

PESrules

nialldinho wrote:

mind if i ask where you ordered from and what shipping you chose?

can't wait to get mine!

I dont think its an original copy.
The game wont be out until tomorrow so even if you bought it now, they are not gonna send it until monday i d say

nialldinho

PESrules wrote:

I dont think its an original copy.
The game wont be out until tomorrow so even if you bought it now, they are not gonna send it until monday i d say

it got released early. play-asia and lik-sang both started shipping on monday

dar83

nialldinho wrote:

it got released early. play-asia and lik-sang both started shipping on monday

Correct, any online store will begin sending pre-orders as soon as they think they will begin arriving on release day (or even before). It's one of the reasons they have courier options that cost a third as much as the game itself.

Play-Asia priority mail had the game arriving to people in the UK and Ireland as early as yesterday. :cool:

PESrules

oh ok didnt know that.
my bad

GrumPy

Just got it myself, need a translation for the menus

dar83

Fernando V3 is out, check:

http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=30782

KdjaCL

Got mine yesterday try it out later in Multi player.

kdjac

KdjaCL

Played a few MP games last night general consensus was that it wasnt "right" too slow and sluggish reminded me of the abomination ISS2 on Gamecube.

Some new animations but in game it just doesnt feel right.


Play it again later but we played a few games then put pes 5 on.



kdjac

dar83

KdjaC wrote:

Played a few MP games last night general consensus was that it wasnt "right" too slow and sluggish

Too slow and sluggish?! :eek:

I'd possibly have the opposite as my only gripe, it's gone a little quick and jerky. It still improves with playing, once you get to grips with the new changes.

Something between this and WE9 would be perfect.

KdjaCL

Must be hard drive related it does seem very slow.



kdjac

dar83

Sounds a bit odd, as its definately a higher pace than WE9 and PES5. It feels lot looser as well, player reaction and turning should be a lot quicker.

KdjaCL

Its ISS2 like sluggish and touch and just everything is damn slow. Playing 5 after it seemed to be quadruple the speed.


I make another ISO and send it over.


kdjac

eyerer

does WE get a japanese PC verison?
would like to play this before/around the world cup, have no PS2 though

dar83

No, it's a PS2 exclusive in Japan.

Mine is not slow or sluggish. I actually like the pace. It does seem very easy though. Shooting is alot better. PES 5 i didnt like , its like icehockey the way the players move.

Balfa

I will be most looking forward to the random slection matches. We haven't seen this since, what, PES1? And it's been sorely missed!

KdjaCL

Balfa wrote:

I will be most looking forward to the random slection matches. We haven't seen this since, what, PES1? And it's been sorely missed!

Random selection? Press L1 and Square random or a different one?


kdjac

Balfa

KdjaC wrote:

Random selection? Press L1 and Square random or a different one?

Um, I'm not sure, this is the one I'm talking about:

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=63543 wrote:

On top of that there'll be a Random Selection Match, allowing you play as teams comprised entirely of randomly selected players

nialldinho

Yeah, the random mode is great!

You can ask it to pick your team from a given area i.e. Europe A, Americas, England League, La Liga etc. Or you can select between 2 and 4 specific teams and have your team selected from their squads.