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PL Omaha - Folding the nuts on the flop

  • 21-03-2006 9:45am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭


    Holding AdKcTd9c in mid position. There are 5 players in the hand.

    Flop comes 6s7h8s.

    UTG bets the pot, UTG+1 raises the pot

    I fold - right move?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    Yeah fold is good.

    Unless both are morons... in which case ... PUSH

    Btw - it was your duty as a poker player to pot it preflop with that hand ... did ya ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    I'd usually fold in this position, although at the lower limits I might gamble. Stack size and if their are players to act behind also affect the decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    fuzzbox wrote:
    it was your duty as a poker player to pot it preflop with that hand ... did ya ?

    Of course.

    Stack sizes were all similar, about $200 each.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    ianmc38 wrote:
    Of course.

    Stack sizes were all similar, about $200 each.

    Well whats in the pot then?
    How big is it?

    I might gamble too if the pot is already big enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Pot was $160 or so.

    I did consider a gamble, but didn't particularly want to call to find 9TJsQs behind me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    ianmc38 wrote:
    Pot was $160 or so.

    Preflop?
    And how much you got left?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Preflop was $40 or so. I still have close to $200 behind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 63 ✭✭nikorami


    With the flush draw out there it is about 35% hit, a set is about 35% to improve and if there is a wrap or some combination of the three you are not looking good. If it was allin 3way you are not getting enough money to call. Probably not that tough a laydown, unless your a gambler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    What if UTG is betting the bare nut flush draw? And UTG+1 is raising with top set and a small flush draw?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 63 ✭✭nikorami


    Without the hand be able to improve and the way most play...I don't feel it is worth the $$$. I liken it to mucking KK when an A hits the board. Crappy feeling, but not worth finsing out if someone has an A. IMHO


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    lafortezza wrote:
    What if UTG is betting the bare nut flush draw? And UTG+1 is raising with top set and a small flush draw?

    With two players and the UTG raiser still to act behind me, I'm more worried that I've no redraws and that one or more of the other 4 could be drawing to the nut straight/flush/both, as well as currently sharing the nuts - then I'm rightly fooked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭Bp!


    nikorami wrote:
    I liken it to mucking KK when an A hits the board.

    Strange comparison??!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 63 ✭✭nikorami


    calling bets to find out IF he has the A. Thats what I mean.


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