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blueface tracert

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  • 15-03-2006 11:39pm
    #1
    dkane
    Registered Users Posts: 358 ✭✭


    When i do a tracert on sip.blueface.ie I am getting the following route:

    217.173.97.177
    217.173.97.109
    pos11-0-pr1.LON.router.COLT.NET [212.74.64.18]
    GigabitEthernet5-0.linx1.lon1.level3.net [195.66

    so-1-3-0.gar2.London1.Level3.net [212.113.3.29]

    ae-0-54.bbr2.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.98]
    so-2-0.hsa2.Dublin1.Level3.net [4.68.128.118]
    213.242.106.14
    hippo.blueface.ie [213.168.225.133]

    As you can see it is going to London and back.

    Is this normal? Does anyone else get a similar result?


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    #2
    ac00785
    Closed Accounts Posts: 45 ✭ac00785


    dkane wrote:
    When i do a tracert on sip.blueface.ie I am getting the following route:

    217.173.97.177
    217.173.97.109
    pos11-0-pr1.LON.router.COLT.NET [212.74.64.18]
    GigabitEthernet5-0.linx1.lon1.level3.net [195.66

    so-1-3-0.gar2.London1.Level3.net [212.113.3.29]

    ae-0-54.bbr2.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.98]
    so-2-0.hsa2.Dublin1.Level3.net [4.68.128.118]
    213.242.106.14
    hippo.blueface.ie [213.168.225.133]

    As you can see it is going to London and back.

    Is this normal? Does anyone else get a similar result?

    I get the following:

    Tracing route to sip.blueface.ie [213.168.225.133]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.2.1
    2 9 ms 7 ms 11 ms 10.26.135.254
    3 13 ms 10 ms 11 ms dbln-cam-2b-ge02-100.inet.ntl.com [82.9.148.129]

    4 29 ms 9 ms 12 ms dbln-t2core-b-ge-220-0.inet.ntl.com [82.9.145.14
    5]
    5 23 ms 12 ms 10 ms dbln-bb-b-ae1-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.57]
    6 12 ms 13 ms 10 ms dbln-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.50]
    7 18 ms 32 ms 11 ms 213.242.106.37
    8 23 ms 30 ms 28 ms so-6-0.hsa2.Dublin1.Level3.net [4.68.115.26]
    9 31 ms 22 ms 22 ms 213.242.106.14
    10 25 ms 23 ms 24 ms hippo.blueface.ie [213.168.225.133]

    Think it depends on your ISP


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    #3
    dkane
    Registered Users Posts: 358 ✭✭dkane


    Thanks for that ac00785

    tis odd.
    Anyone got any ideas? ac looks to be using ntl. Im on netsource DSL if that makes any differance


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    #4
    Yook
    Closed Accounts Posts: 437 ✭✭Yook


    Thats what I got. LOL, maybe i should get blueface.

    Tracing route to sip.blueface.ie [213.168.225.133]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
    2 5 ms 3 ms 4 ms 213.168.230.1
    3 5 ms 4 ms 3 ms 213.168.225.241
    4 4 ms 4 ms 5 ms hippo.blueface.ie [213.168.225.133]

    Trace complete.


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    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users Posts: 14,331 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Yook wrote:
    Thats what I got. LOL, maybe i should get blueface.

    Tracing route to sip.blueface.ie [213.168.225.133]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
    2 5 ms 3 ms 4 ms 213.168.230.1
    3 5 ms 4 ms 3 ms 213.168.225.241
    4 4 ms 4 ms 5 ms hippo.blueface.ie [213.168.225.133]

    Trace complete.

    How are you getting only 5ms ping and 3 hops?


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    #6
    Yook
    Closed Accounts Posts: 437 ✭✭Yook


    jimmycrackcorm wrote:
    How are you getting only 5ms ping and 3 hops?

    I'm with icecomms. I get that to most irish backbone servers. Unfortunately, its wireless which means the ping from here to the base station is ALWAYS terrible.


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    #7
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 65,040 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    ac00785 wrote:
    I get the following:

    Mine's very similar to that


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    #8
    bhickey
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭bhickey


    dkane wrote:
    As you can see it is going to London and back.

    I think that might be related to your ISP and how they route their own traffic.


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    #9
    Blaster99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Blaster99


    Blueface will allegedly get INEX connectivity in the near future which should sort out the Dublin->London->Dublin thing.

    Smart's got INEX connectivity, as does Broadtalk. If you want to consider alternatives.


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    #10
    aaronc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭aaronc


    Just so all the facts are known the reason INEX is often touted as being a superior way to route traffic is because an ISP is likely to have less congestion on their INEX link than they will on an internet link, this because INEX traffic costs an ISP a lot less than internet traffic. However assuming an ISP will never have capacity issues on INEX is wrong and there is currently one major ISP with exactly that problem.

    A hop to London and back will typically introduce 20 to 30ms of latency which is going to be impercetible to just about any kind of traffic and certainly VoIP.

    I'd agree that people should try out alternatives if quality is poor with one provider or another but just assuming an INEX connection path will improve things will not always be correct although in the majority of circumstances it should help.

    Aaron
    (caveat: I work for Blue Face)


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