Three simple hands 36nl

Hectorjelly · 14-03-2006 12:13am #1

I have 58 on bb. Flop is 558, 2 hearts. I bet and utg moron calls me. Turn is blank. I bet big and moron calls again. River 5, there is about 100 in the pot and we both have 500 left, whats my move. (I have quads and moron has either a 8, overpair (not that likely) or missed flush draw.

I have AA on bb. Button who is tight raisers a whole table of limpers I make it 60 more. He min reraises me. I am 99% sure he has AA. Whats my move, he has 1k I have 800.

I have AJ. I raise utg both blinds call. SB one is idiot, BB is tight idiot. Flop is 4TAr. Checked to me I bet 60. They both call. Turn is 8 and the BB bets 120. Autofold?

Edit, Im posting these as I misplayed everyone of them

Ste05 · 14-03-2006 12:44am

1)Tricky one, kind of hard to say what I'd do, you say he's a moron, any more info. e.g. I assume he limped UTG, how many other players were in the pot. I think it's either a push hoping it looks suspicious that quads would push. Although, if he's a moron because he over calls with draws, then I think it's a check hoping he has a crack at the pot....

2) I think I call, then check raise (hoping he lays down his AA, if he won't then he probably won't with KK either) Either way it's all going in on nearly any flop.

3) I don't think it's an autofold. Although again it would depend on what type of an idiot he was. I might find a call and hope he shuts down on the river (and the SB goes away). It's 120 to win a 320 pot and I think alot of the time you have the best hand here.
If I thought he would check the river I'd call, if I think either will bet the river then it's a fold. I don't think I'd raise anyway...

a-k-47 · 14-03-2006 12:53am

I have 58 on bb. Flop is 558, 2 hearts. I bet and utg moron calls me. Turn is blank. I bet big and moron calls again. River 5, there is about 100 in the pot and we both have 500 left, whats my move. (I have quads and moron has either a 8, overpair (not that likely) or missed flush draw

id overbet bet this one on the river hoping his got 8's or higher pp...did u check the river and he show 8 + ?

I have AA on bb. Button who is tight raisers a whole table of limpers I make it 60 more. He min reraises me. I am 99% sure he has AA. Whats my move, he has 1k I have 800.

Call see the flop, if your flushing push, soon as u both have AA

... i dont like being re raised with aa though, so id prob push pre flop lol

I have AJ. I raise utg both blinds call. SB one is idiot, BB is tight idiot. Flop is 4TAr. Checked to me I bet 60. They both call. Turn is 8 and the BB bets 120. Autofold?

dont know pot pre flop or stack sizes so tough decision... possible he slowed played a10. if u have him well covered im calling all the way.

ullu · 14-03-2006 12:54am

Hand 1 : I'd overbet here against a moron. You're not going to get much money out of him if he had the flush draw and he probably won't bet it if checked to. He'll call the overbet with the 8 and probably raise with the overpair. 88 is also a real possibility.

Hand 2 : You say you're almost certain he has AA but you misplayed all these hands. Are you saying he didn't or he hit a 3 flush flop that you played badly? Either way, I'd raise at least another $200 on top. If he has AA, he's going to push in which case you'll be desperately unlucky to lose and if he does have KK or the like, you have to charge him for it.

Hand 3 : Autofold. Maybe you're being played by a weak ace who has decided to put you on 99-KK (except TT of course!) and is going to commit his stack but you can't assume that with any certainty. The two other players probably got all-in against each other based on how the hand played out so far so just take note for the next time.

Hectorjelly · 14-03-2006 12:56am

ullu wrote:

Hand 2 : You say you're almost certain he has AA but you misplayed all these hands. Are you saying he didn't or he hit a 3 flush flop that you played badly?

To be honest I was 100% sure preflop he had AA

a-k-47 · 14-03-2006 1:12am

it does happen but very rarely, did he have kk?..can we have a river report before i conk out? or do i have to wait till 2morow

Hectorjelly · 14-03-2006 1:21am

a-k-47 wrote:

it does happen but very rarely, did he have kk?..can we have a river report before i conk out? or do i have to wait till 2morow

What % sure would you like me to be?

a-k-47 · 14-03-2006 1:30am

What % sure would you like me to be?

101%...not really interested on how sure you are that he had aa,;) the odds are against you that he didnt , but if he did fair play , great read

, ul on the flush!:eek:

Hectorjelly · 14-03-2006 1:32am

a-k-47 wrote:

101%...not really interested on how sure you are that he had aa,;) the odds are against you that he didnt , but if he did fair play , great read , ul on the flush!:eek:

There was no flush and the odds were aproximately 99-1 in favour of him having AA.

a-k-47 · 14-03-2006 1:42am

so your saying that the odds of you both having aa 99-1 on??? are u basing this on a re re raise? i dont know the odds of you both having aa but im sure they are at least 1-999...your read on him having aa is pre flop not post flop right? am i missing something here

Hectorjelly · 14-03-2006 2:01am

a-k-47 wrote:

so your saying that the odds of you both having aa 99-1 on??? are u basing this on a re re raise? i dont know the odds of you both having aa but im sure they are at least 1-999...your read on him having aa is pre flop not post flop right? am i missing something here

I know that he has AA because of his play in the hand. I now that it is very unlikely for 2 people to have AA (or any pair) at the same time, but based on the play of the hand I know he has AA. Similarly its unlikely anyone person has JQ but the board is TKAxx and you get mulitple raises its likely someone has JQ.

There is a small chance he misclicked or someone else other than him is playing the hand for him, barring that he has AA.

RoundTower · 14-03-2006 2:25am

I recently discovered this which might help you play the first hand.

In the second hand I suppose you should call and check raise any flop that doesn't give him a four flush. Or maybe check/call flop and push turn. Plus maybe you can get away from the hand if it turns out you are being freerolled. It is impossible to make a big mistake in this hand, only a small one.

Yes I autofold the third one. This guy probably isn't bluffing you.

Hectorjelly · 14-03-2006 2:28am

Ok here are my thoughts. Hand 1 is a clear check. If he has a higher pp he will bet, I will go all in and he will call. If he has an 8 he will bet I will go all in and he will call. If he has a lower PP he will probably check behind (this is the only scenario where I lose out - but he might not call much anyway) If he has a flush draw he wont call another penny anyway, so I should check.

Hand 2
Reraising here is awfull. I know what he has, so I should try and take it off him on the turn. He is a tight player and I have reraised preflop, so there are plenty of boards in which I can take him off AA. Even if I cant I dont lose anything by trying. Would you call a 100bb reraise with AA on a TJQ2 board having being reraised preflop? I wouldnt. Similary KKJT etc.

Hand 3
He is tight and leading out into 2 players on the turn. He can beat AJ. FOLD!

In the actual course of events I pushed on all 3. Luckily there are players playing way worse than me.

fuzzbox · 14-03-2006 8:07am

Hand 1 - all-in
Hand 2 - call and check/raise all-in on the flop (we dont want KK to pass)
Hand 3 - fold seems good.

ianmc38 · 14-03-2006 9:43am

I think your suggested line for all 3 is best.

1. Check - This is the best value here. he'll fold a missed draw if you bet and will hopefully bet any form of boat. if he's a donk he may even try to steal with a missed draw.
2. Call and push him off later in the hand
3. Easy fold

Three simple hands 36nl

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