What you need to become a lecturer?

trotter_inc

What qualifications do you need to become a lecturer, in particular, IT?

Do you need a Masters or would a good degree qualify you?

Thanks

Tom Dunne

The requirements are a Honours Degree and 3 years post-grad experience.

The Institute of Technology where I am, everyone has a Masters (without exception).

trotter_inc

tom dunne wrote:

The requirements are a Honours Degree and 3 years post-grad experience.

The Institute of Technology where I am, everyone has a Masters (without exception).

ok thanks

Gurgle

tom dunne wrote:

The requirements are a Honours Degree and 3 years post-grad experience.

The Institute of Technology where I am, everyone has a Masters (without exception).

You've probably been there for several years then.
That was the way it was when I started a part time Masters.

Recently it seems theres loads of applicants with PhDs for every lecturing job that comes up.

Tom Dunne

Gurgle wrote:

Recently it seems theres loads of applicants with PhDs for every lecturing job that comes up.

We have to be careful to differentiate between the Institute of Technologies and the Universities.

The IT's requirements are set by the Dept. of Education, and I can tell you for certain (trying to dig up a link on Education.ie) that the above requirements still stand - honours degree plus 3 years post-grad. The individual institutions may request higher, but the job description will always specify what the Dept.of Ed sets out.

I applied for 5 jobs in various IT's this time last year, and not one of them required an MSc. in the job spec.

I believe the job spec for any of the Universitites is either a PhD or the applicant is near completion of a PhD.

Gurgle

tom dunne wrote:

I can tell you for certain (trying to dig up a link on Education.ie) that the above requirements still stand - honours degree plus 3 years post-grad. The individual institutions may request higher, but the job description will always specify what the Dept.of Ed sets out.

I applied for 5 jobs in various IT's this time last year, and not one of them required an MSc. in the job spec.

You're right the requirement is an honours degree, but there seems to be loads of people with PhDs applying for (and getting) all the positions in the last couple of years.

Tom Dunne

Gurgle wrote:

there seems to be loads of people with PhDs applying for (and getting) all the positions in the last couple of years.

That's true. As permanent positions are few and far between these days, I am giving serious consideration to pursuing a PhD/doctorate.

slave1

for the ITs an honours degree equivalent is fine, e.g. qualified accountant

r3nu4l

It depends on what you want to lecture, take Biology as an example. You will not get a permanent lecturing job anywhere now without a PhD, despite requirements in the IT's saying a MSc will do!

Also, in the Universities, you must also have considerable post-doctoral research experience and be willing to run your own laboratory. Two key factors in whether you get the job are your publication record in peer-reviewed journals and your ability to attract considerable research funding.

The quality of your research collaborations/international networking is become increasingly important.

Lectureships in Biology are very competitive and I do know of people who with their current portfolio and CV would have walked ino a lecturing job five years ago but are way down the league-tables of todays standards.

Shame, because lecturing jobs, at elast in the Universities, are well paid (despite what any lecturer you ask will tell you!)

slave1

what I'd like to know is how - in the world of accountancy - can you carry out research?
This baffles me and it's pretty much a requirement for a lecturing position.

Pointers anyone?

Gurgle

slave1 wrote:

what I'd like to know is how - in the world of accountancy - can you carry out research?
This baffles me and it's pretty much a requirement for a lecturing position.

lol, I can only guess that you're not an accountant.

Quillo

Is there an oral Irish entry requirement for those looking to be Lecturers ?

Tom Dunne

I do recall seeing some reference to Irish on the application form (something like "you must satisfy dept. of Education requirements for Irish"), but I don't think it is really considered.

Unless, of course, you are lecturing in Irish.

r3nu4l

I'd imagine if you are applying to lecture Irish, there may be, yes but for any other subject in a Univeristy or IT...short answer, no.

Some of my lecturers in Biology were English, so I imagine their Irish would be, ahem, minimal to say the least.

TomDunne, I believe that requirement was removed a few years ago as it was deemed discriminatory in a multi-cultural and more importantly, European society

slave1

seriously, I would appreciate any pointer asto research and accountancy, It's not that I'm thick, I just don't know where to start, what's involved etc etc

Tom Dunne

slave1 wrote:

I just don't know where to start, what's involved etc etc

What do you mean? Are you a qualified accountant who wants to get into lecturing? Or do you want to get into the accountancy game so you can lecture in it?

If it is the former, the first step is get some part-time lecturing hours. Colleges advertise for part-time positions at the end of August/early September. That would get your foot in the door.

DC

I am no expert in accounting, but I presume you have some background in general business and commerce?

You need to come up with something original for the research. Maybe some new way of evaluating something financially for example. Maybe some new model or metrics for evaluation of investments.

simu

slave1 wrote:

seriously, I would appreciate any pointer asto research and accountancy, It's not that I'm thick, I just don't know where to start, what's involved etc etc

Look at the web pages of existing lecturers in these areas - they usually have lists of research interests.

Goebels

tom dunne wrote:

The requirements are a Honours Degree and 3 years post-grad experience.

The Institute of Technology where I am, everyone has a Masters (without exception).

Define 3 years post grad experience for someone with a degree in English.

Tom Dunne

Not so sure about English - presumably they can't hire you the day after you graduate, they have to wait three years.

What does a degree in English qualify you to do?

EdgarAllenPoo

My mother's friend made an agreement with a university( I can't remember which one) that that should would give lectures in exchange for the fees on her Masters. So I wouldn't say a Master is always needed as she was still studying for hers while lecturing.