Re: Help needed locating (EUROBIRD A) please

johnplayerblue

How goes it lads
I've just had the worst 5wks of my life with regards to my satellite broadband connection, and to make a long story short i was told lie after lie and more lies, by the crowd i was with. As of the 2nd of the 2nd i've been without broadband and its been a nightmare, but as of today it looks like i may just be back online by this time next week. I'm staying with Skydsl as i.ve been with them a few yrs now and have had no real problems, apart from there resellers that is. I.m to get my Skydsl numbers this week but instead of my dish pointing at Telecom2D im to move it to EUROBIRD A?
Now been on a dial up connection on a split line is no fun, and also means surfing is a nightmare, so im trying to find as much info as i can so i can be set up when i get my new software and numbers next week. The most obvious question i need answered is where to find EUROBIRD A? And is it hard to get the signal? I may very well be wrong but i think its somewhere along the 28.5 mark or maybe the 33 D E. mark? but im not sure, in fact i haven't a clue so hopefully i can get some excat details please.
Rgds

L1011

No such satellite. Its Eurobird 3 if its SkyDSL; which is 33E. It is relatively easy to get in Ireland, although I've never lined it up myself (very little TV worth watching, so...).

johnplayerblue

Hey!
You know even today when i got the email i was wondering about Eurobird A as id never heard of it, either that or its a new transponder but here it is from there web site http://www.teles-skydsl.com/?tpl=page/ueberall

watty

Eurobird A,B
It is a not very usefull to people in Ireland @33E, better known as
Eurobird 3 & Intelsat 802


The Eurobird we get TV off at @28.5E is Eurobird 1

The Teles SkyDSL is a not very usefull service in Ireland with no flat rate Internet Dialup and expensive line rental. You still need phone line connected all the time you are online. It is download only.

johnplayerblue

Hey!
I'm aware of the ins and outs of skydsl(1 way satellite) as i stated in my orignal post i've been using skydsl(Telecom2D)1 way for a number of yrs now and as i live in the the arse hole of no where .ie Laois, i don't have ANY other options open to me thus far. My question was is this transponder hard to hit or is it like Telecom2D which is very much hit and miss at 8.W?

Zaphod

It *should* be easier to receive Eurobird 33E than Telecom2D 8W if you believe the footprint charts, but the power output from 33E is a good bit lower than 8W in reality. So get them to move you back to 8W.

You can make a large improvement to the signal quality on 8W if you skew/rotate the LNBF clockwise (as you face the dish) by 10 degrees or so.

watty

I get 8W MUCH stronger here in Limerick.

Oddly my Internet is nearly Ku band (10.5 and 10.2GHz), but terrestrial.

Yes, johnplayerblue, but my comments for all the folks just browsing and no experience of it. I have used Casablanca, which is a free introduction to similar PC + Dish + data technology. They are moving from 19.2E to 23.5E, which seems serously weaker here.

johnplayerblue

Hey!
I was thinking along the same lines myself with regards to Telecom 2D.
Why try and fix whats not broken kinda thing, i did send them an email along thoese lines this morning but i've yet to recieve an answer.
I mean its the same service the same package and from the foot print the dish i have will and has always done the job for me. I have been told that theres not as many users on the Eurobird as there is on the Telecom one so speeds would be better which would always be a good reason to move, but if i can leave the dish as it is well and good, perhaps move it on a summers day but not this time of year.
I know what you mean about the LNB! The lazy basterd that first installed it for me left me with a signal quality of something like 22 23% but after moving the lnb it improved and is at the moment fluctuating between 58 and 62%, which is only half way what i would like it to be, but not having a good meter and 8W been a tricky son of a bitch 62% will do just fine. All i need now is for that signal to carry some Data to my desktop and ill be a happy camper.

netwhizkid

johnplayerblue wrote:

How goes it lads
I've just had the worst 5wks of my life with regards to my satellite broadband connection, and to make a long story short i was told lie after lie and more lies, by the crowd i was with. As of the 2nd of the 2nd i've been without broadband and its been a nightmare, but as of today it looks like i may just be back online by this time next week. I'm staying with Skydsl as i.ve been with them a few yrs now and have had no real problems, apart from there resellers that is. I.m to get my Skydsl numbers this week but instead of my dish pointing at Telecom2D im to move it to EUROBIRD A?
Now been on a dial up connection on a split line is no fun, and also means surfing is a nightmare, so im trying to find as much info as i can so i can be set up when i get my new software and numbers next week. The most obvious question i need answered is where to find EUROBIRD A? And is it hard to get the signal? I may very well be wrong but i think its somewhere along the 28.5 mark or maybe the 33 D E. mark? but im not sure, in fact i haven't a clue so hopefully i can get some excat details please.
Rgds

Hi johnplayerblue,

From what I gather, you are with Skydsl but you were receiving it from the "Broadband4ireland" reseller. I now take it you have cancelled Skydsl from "broadband4ireland" and have taken it up again from www.teles-skydsl.com. I have skydsl myself and am getting it direct from www.teles-skydsl.com, previously Euroskynet.

I too was told to align my dish to E-Bird 2A @ 33° East, it is bullsh*t, I presume your dish is currently set to Telecom 2D @ 8° West, The way that broadband4ireland had it. Let that dish alone, You will be able to receive Skydsl perfectly on it assuming it is aligned reasonably and is getting decent signal quality and signal level like mine. I had tonnes of trouble with the dish at the start. See this thread The user "Tony" gives a description of the joys :rolleyes: of aligning a dish to E-Bird 2A @ 33° East, It is not good. Tony knows his stuff and runs www.satellite.ie

Stay away from E-bird and when your new skydsl numbers arrive to you just re-install the software on the CD, which is out-of date by now but you can update the software from here. You will have to install with the old software first and then register your skydsl number and details before being allowed access the skydsl service area where you can upgrade software, download manuals, set-up the skydsl offline email service etc. Telecom 2D will work perfectly, I bet my reputation on it.


See here to read more about my expolits with Skydsl

Tony

Thanks for the kind words

johnplayerblue

Hey!
Tnks for that Whizkid. Thats pretty much what i wanted to hear. At the moment my connection is soooo bad that i can't check the links as of yet, took me 20mins to get to this point. But im gona leave it at 8°W.
The only thing that concerns me is that during the trouble i had with Broadband4ireland and the lies that they told me and kept my hanging for over a month when there was no service, was that after i was told to uninstall, reninstall, try a different pz, move the card to a different slot in the pz and various other things which in the end none of which worked as they were going out of business and had no service to give me, i was told that the dish MUST have moved as the warning : This satellite does not transmit the skydsl service was what kept comeing up at the final stage of the connection wizard so as i've not had a signal from skydsl for a while now i hope that these settings are ok, i have a signal quality of 58% from transponder 11619 and also from 11493, symbol rate 27500 and a polarity V/R/Low. So hopefully its just a matter of installing my new/old software entering my numbers and im back to the land of the living so to speak!

netwhizkid

johnplayerblue wrote:

Hey!
Tnks for that Whizkid. Thats pretty much what i wanted to hear. At the moment my connection is soooo bad that i can't check the links as of yet, took me 20mins to get to this point. But im gona leave it at 8°W.
The only thing that concerns me is that during the trouble i had with Broadband4ireland and the lies that they told me and kept my hanging for over a month when there was no service, was that after i was told to uninstall, reninstall, try a different pz, move the card to a different slot in the pz and various other things which in the end none of which worked as they were going out of business and had no service to give me, i was told that the dish MUST have moved as the warning : This satellite does not transmit the skydsl service was what kept comeing up at the final stage of the connection wizard so as i've not had a signal from skydsl for a while now i hope that these settings are ok, i have a signal quality of 58% from transponder 11619 and also from 11493, symbol rate 27500 and a polarity V/R/Low. So hopefully its just a matter of installing my new/old software entering my numbers and im back to the land of the living so to speak!

Yeah things should by okay although your Dish sounds as if it could be tweaked a little. I have my own satellite meter and never had move the dish from day one. I did go up once with a ladder and connect the meter to the lnb yet still got a perfect reading. My Skydsl has broken down seriously a few times, the worst was about two months ago and it was going on & off Intermittently for about a week. I reinstalled and it continued for about two days and worked perfectly since then. The new software release seems much more stable and it was obviously a response from Skydsl as other boards members here with Skydsl were having similar difficulties as myself and were PM'ing me for Info. Repair under the "Local Area Network Connection" that skydsl is on sometimes works and brings the old gal back to life. Best of luck with it, but if the problems continue after getting Skydsl back-up and running and reinstalling the new software patch, then it might be worth getting the dish aligned more accurately for better results. The Weather I also find if it raining heavy or very cloudy can also drag the signal down by up to 10%. Although it is raining heavily here now and I'm on 100% for quality and level.