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Server software

  • 09-03-2006 8:53pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭


    Hello, I just want to know how do I go about setting up software on a server. Im trying to set up a program called ImageMagik to thumbnail images on my Imagebaord but I havent the foggiest as to how to set up a program on a server.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭Steveire


    You just install it as you would on any other computer. ImageMagick is very easy to install, and a test is part of the installation, so you'll know it's working. Do you have enough access to the server to install programs on it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    You RTFM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭chupacabra


    You RTFM.

    Yes I have read the manual and it has nothing to do with what I need this program to do. The manual provided only states how to set it up as you are using it on your OS. I need to set it up on my server so that it can thumbnail images uploaded by users on my Imageboard. Before you post something like that think it through.

    Steveire: Yes I have full access to my server.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭liamo


    Hi chupacabra,

    Although aidan_walsh's post might not have been the response you desired, it was very likely inspired by the manner in which you posed your question.

    Your question "How do I go about setting up software on a server?" is so vague as to be unanswerable.

    You do, however, qualify your question by saying that you want to install ImageMagik. What you don't specify is where you're having a problem with the installation. Have you tried to install it? If so, what problem(s) have you encountered? Have you Googled for an answer? If so, you should say so to prevent people from telling you to STFW. (Ditto for RTFM).

    Installing software on a server is (generally) no different to installing software on a regular PC.

    If you've never installed software on a server before, I would question the wisdom of going near the server - unless, of course, it's your own, or this is a learning exercise.

    However, if you're trying to install ImageMagik on a Windows Server (I don't know anything about ImageMagik so I'm guessing it's a Windows Server), you can set up a Restore Point so you can get back to a working state if anything goes wrong during the install (although it shouldn't). Additionally, you can always un-install the product and re-install it.

    Remember, when you're asking for help, be specific. That way you're giving people something specific to answer. I mean, where is someone supposed to start to explain to you how to install software? That's like asking "How do I use a computer?" This is not meant in any way to be a put-down, I'm merely pointing out how your question can raise the hackles of some people (because this sort of question is seen all too often) and how to correctly ask for assistance.

    Instead of asking "how do I install this piece of software?", try installing it yourself. If you're having a problem then ask "When I install software X I get error message Y when I click on Z. Has anyone seen this before?" or something like that. Remember to do your own research first so that it doesn't seem like you're asking the readers of your post to do all your work for you.

    Although I haven't answered your question, I hope this has been of some help.

    Regards,

    Liam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭Steveire


    I had a response written, but Liam put it better...


    The only thing I've used ImageMagick for is image resizes in MediaWiki, which comes pretty much set up to use it. You just set wgUseImageMagick = true; in a settings file. Then there is a image.php file which takes care of the rest. It puts a command together and executes it to do the resize.
    • See if anyone else does this with imageboard, and get help from them.
    • Try resizing it in the command line, so you know it works properly
    • then: try to put the php file together to do the same job.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    I have a sneaking suspicion that the OP means on a web server. Is that right chupa?

    I'd echo what the others said about asking a techie question. It's really difficult to give too much information. You'll certainly find help here though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭chupacabra


    OK, sorry bout all that before. So heres my problem: I have ImageMagik, Im planning on using the convert command line to thumbnail images on my Imageboard. The problem is that I havent a clue on how to set up software on a server, sure I know how to go about doing it on my own computer. Actually the operating system on my server is Linux, and my personal operating system is WinXP. All I need to know off you guys is how can I go about setting up this on my server, treat me as a complete n00b k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Asok


    What version of linux? Centos, Red Hat, Debian etc etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Sorry man, we still need more information.

    How are you going to receive the images? Do you want to automate the task of resizing the images when they're uploaded to a message board? Or, say, once every few hours?

    The installation should be handy enough, once you have command line access (e.g. telnet) and root access (though this isn't necessary).

    try the following command:

    sudo apt-get install imagemagick

    or (as root)

    apt-get install imagemagick

    If you fancy trusting me enough with the root password to your server, I'll give it a bash for you, but I offer no guarantees (and I wont be at a computer all weekend).

    PM me the username, password and host name (or IP address) if you want to go down this path.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭chupacabra


    Khannie wrote:
    Sorry man, we still need more information.

    How are you going to receive the images? Do you want to automate the task of resizing the images when they're uploaded to a message board? Or, say, once every few hours?

    The installation should be handy enough, once you have command line access (e.g. telnet) and root access (though this isn't necessary).

    try the following command:

    sudo apt-get install imagemagick

    or (as root)

    apt-get install imagemagick

    If you fancy trusting me enough with the root password to your server, I'll give it a bash for you, but I offer no guarantees (and I wont be at a computer all weekend).

    PM me the username, password and host name (or IP address) if you want to go down this path.

    Yeah I need it to resisze the images automatically as they are posted. But all I really need is the software installed on my system.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭liamo


    chupacabra wrote:
    Yeah I need it to resisze the images automatically as they are posted. But all I really need is the software installed on my system.

    Hi.

    Despite a number of requests you still haven't supplied enough information to allow people to help you. Nor have you demonstrated any research on your own part. Although this is probably based on your enthusiasm to get the software installed as quickly as possible, this does come across as poor manners. On other boards you wouldn't find people as patient.

    Khannie has already told you how to install it - if you have a Debian-based distro.
    The installation will be different if you have RedHat or a RedHat clone : "yum install <package>"

    So, you now have enough information to install software on a Debian or RedHat based system. If you need more information, do ask - but please be specific : what have you tried? What errors are you getting? NB: What Linux distro are you running?

    However, before you ask, click on this Google search. There are 800,000+ results. You should get the information you need in one or more of the first few results.

    Regards,

    Liam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭chupacabra


    Look guys, Im sorry if im coming off as an arrogant or unmannerly b*stard but I have never delt with installing onto a web server before. You must understand that I am a complete n00b, I mean cmon you were all in this position before. Ive given all the information I can possible give within what I know. If its wasting time then just close this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Seem to remember playing with that and ended up doing my own thing.

    First install your webserver and start it up.
    After that download the software and follow the instructions given earlier.

    The only problem I recall was with the location of the graphics package which should be part of the PHP in the ext directory I reckon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭liamo


    chupacabra wrote:
    Look guys, Im sorry if im coming off as an arrogant or unmannerly b*stard
    No, you're not coming across like that at all - and it wasn't my intention to imply such, I was gently chiding you. You're coming across as someone who is starting out - just like everyone else at some point.

    However, you need to ask the right questions, and in the right way. You need to read what people are telling you and answer the questions that are asked of you. As of this point you still haven't told us what Linux distro you're running. This is an important piece of information. Answering that question is a good place to start.

    So, from the top .....

    1) What Linux distro are you running?
    2) What version of that distro? (Not crucial but every little bit helps)
    3) Do you know the difference between a Debian or RedHat distro?
    4) Have you tried the apt-get suggestion? ( apt-get install imagemagick )
    5) If you're running an RPM based system,go to here to get binary releases of the product.
    6) Need to use RPM and don't know how? First, try man rpm. If that doesn't help, then ask a question about it.
    7) Still having problems?
    Answer ALL of the above questions.
    Answer ALL of the following questions.
    What have you tried to do?
    Where are you having problems with the installation ?
    Include any error information, if applicable.

    Everyone has been in your situation where you don't know how to accomplish something - and perhaps don't even know the right questions to ask - but the very least you must do is answer the questions that are asked of you otherwise people can't help.

    Regards,

    Liam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭rogue-entity


    OP, we can all help you here, but even though you are new to this, we do need some extra information as Liamo said.

    You can narrow the list down to two possible distros: Debian or RedHat (or Fedora or CentOS, all basicly the same).

    If it is debian then, the above apt-get suggestion will work, and you can search for the exact package name on debians website.

    For any of the Red Hat clones the yum suggestion should work.

    Once you sort this out, just install an image gallery such as Coppermine. You can download the whole lot from the internet (google coppermine). I can give you precise instructions on downloading and installing it. Coppermine requires a database to be setup though, and I can help you with that too. When you install Coppermine you will get an installer page the first time you go to access it, you just enter the requred information and you will be up and running in no time.


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