Seller tried to pull a fast one on postage.

ruprect

I bought an item from a power seller with 100% feedback.
In the description he said postage was $12.99 in the US 13.99 in canada and 19.99 for europe. He also has a webpage selling on his own which many powersellers do, and the price is usually cheaper on ebay.

The shipping price is for all 50 States. Shipping to Canada is sent by air mail and will cost $13.99. Shipping to Europe is $19.99.

In the same description it said

Payment Options: Money Order/Cashiers Checks ,PayPal
Shipping Options: Fixed Shipping Charges.
USPS Priority
Shipping Rate: $12.98 (Domestic)
$13.98 (International)

I will ship to: USA and Internationally
Insurance Rate: $0.01
[Sales Tax]: 6% for in-state buyers

Down the bottom on what I consider the official shipping pricing, i.e. the automatic one that comes when you win it said.

Shipping, payment details and return policy
Shipping Cost Services Available Available to
US $12.98 Standard Flat Rate Shipping Service United States only
US $13.98 Standard Int'l Flat Rate Shipping Worldwide

Will ship to Worldwide.

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Shipping insurance
US $0.01 Required
Sales tax
Seller charges sales tax for items shipped to: MI (6.000%).

So I presumed he just cut and pasted the 19.99 from his website. I checked his feedback on www.toolhaus.org and the negatives were from idiots, not his fault.

All is fine I win the bid and go to pay it immediately, the correct postage appears. I cannot pay due to irish broadband being a load of bollox and not supporting gmail or ebay properly. Then about 10 mins later the seller sends me an invoice with the 19.99 shipping stated!

I click on the original ebay one via the email or in ebay and this new 19.99 one appears every time.

Anyway went home to trusty eirom and I deducted $6 in the discount page on ebay, for some reason there was no box to enter a comment to the seller this time, I was going to say there must have been a mistake so I took off $6.

No reply from the seller about this yet. I thought it odd he had no negatives or neutrals about trying this little scam, he has close to 11,000 hits.

Anyways just be on the lookout!

blahblah06

so how did he try and pull a fast one? maybe he made a mistake on the listing?

mikep

Are you sure that $19.99 isnt for Airmail and $ 13.98 is surface mail( Wich can take AGES)??

ruprect

blahblah06 wrote:

so how did he try and pull a fast one? maybe he made a mistake on the listing?

I forgot to mention that. There is no mistake he is selling lots of these items, all the exact same. I will try and get it but IBB are so bad that ebay barely loads for me.

mikep wrote:

Are you sure that $19.99 isnt for Airmail and $ 13.98 is surface mail( Wich can take AGES)??

Possible but not pointed out. Any seller with 11000 hits knows how to use ebay and would have the 2 options there.

blahblah06

ruprect wrote:

I forgot to mention that. There is no mistake he is selling lots of these items, all the exact same. I will try and get it but IBB are so bad that ebay barely loads for me.


Possible but not pointed out. Any seller with 11000 hits knows how to use ebay and would have the 2 options there.

i think u just confused yourself really. he sells hundreds of items he could easily have amde a mistake simply email him mate you wont have a bother. 100 is genuine not a scammer.

ruprect

I am not saying he is a blatant rip-off merchant. Just appears he may try this a bit and I would have expected to see neutrals because of it. Why would be go out of his way to send a second invoice when he knows ebay have sent one automatically.

Here are the items.

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&frpp=25&from=R10&satitle=13+lb&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&bs=Search&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp=&sadis=200&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&seller=1&sass=ezaker

blahblah06

many sellers send 2nd invoices as many ppl reg on eBay have there settings not to receive eBay email and some domains just class them as junk

blahblah06

okey dokey

The shipping price is for all 50 States. Shipping to Canada is sent by air mail and will cost $13.99.

Shipping to Europe is $19.99.

SO WHATS THE PROBLEM

ruprect

blahblah06 wrote:

SO WHATS THE PROBLEM

Did you read the OP?

blahblah06

TBH the most important thing is whats in the listing and not whats in the postage into down the bottom. he could have a set template. it wouldnt surprise me if he didnt post you the item until ya sent the 6 pound extra. plus its your own fault you noticed a contradiction so you should have emailed him to ask.

ruprect

blahblah06 wrote:

TBH the most important thing is whats in the listing and not whats in the postage into down the bottom.

I would certainly disagree with that. I see what he entered at the time of entering details and the official invoice from ebay as being the correct one. AFAIK people can change the description after bidding as happened but cannot change the official postage.

If he had only listed the US postage at the bottom I would have emailed him. Fact is he TWICE posted the postage as being 13.99 to europe on the item, you can check the link I gave. If there was no postage listed at the bottom (which I always presume to be the real one) then I would have emailed him since it was 50/50 in his description.

The fact he had no negative or neutrals about it lead me to think it would be no problem.

So if I didnt notice the contradiction it would not be my fault???
If he said it was 13.99 forty times in the description and 19.99 once do you still think he should refuse to send me it until I pay up?

I am only trying to make people aware of this. I never knew that people could over-ride the first invoice with a second one, it is something I will look out for in future.

blahblah06

i dont see were twice it says 13.99 to europe. i seen once saying 19.99 and then 13.98 once for international ( after he said 13.98 to canada etc) ?? care to enlighten me

ruprect

blahblah06 wrote:

care to enlighten me

OK, simple really, ebay define international/worldwide as all other countries excluding the one it is based in.

If you click on the link I gave and if your ebay settings are the same as mine it will show that postage to IRELAND is 13.98

blahblah06

its not simple because it messed up. seriously lad just email the chap he made a mistake.

ruprect

Confirmed sent by airmail, with a thank you and a copy of my paypal payment with the discount shown.

Didnt mention the -$6 at all.

I reckon he just chances it and would have refunded it claiming it was a mistake.