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Hitchhiker's Guide to...

Just finished reading it now. Wow! It is a really excellent read. Much better than some national newspapers. Very professional. Liked Derek Owens' article on The Village - so bitchy! Definitely think some of the writers in it show great potential to go on to good journalist jobs after college. Not sure about Joe O'Gorman as number 1 on the power list - he's not really a student, even though he might technically be.

/end excessive compliments

Andrew 83

Thanks

When I saw the title I was afraid it was going to be abuse!

Crash

i was very impressed to be honest - cept for the lack of my name mention in enda's article and NO PLACE IN THE POWER LIST - you LIED to me christine

ilovemybrick

my picture is in it twice. although in one of them only my forehead and hair are visible.

SOL

Nice front page story about the raid btw

Awayindahils

yes you managed to aprehend a 42 year old diabetic quite possibly arthritic man...

SOL

Silence, my junky fighting skills are beyond compare.
Also I'm not sure that 42 wasn't a missprint....

Crash

New skyOne series - Cormac and the Chav

Cormac Quigley is put in a ring with three junkie chav scumbags, and has to rugby tackle each of them to recover valuable Hist Memorabilia.

it could make millions.

ApeXaviour

I'd usually be rather critical but I have to say.. very very well put together, attention grabbing and interesting read. Keep it up andy

jd

Roundtower2 wrote:

Liked Derek Owens' article on The Village - so bitchy!

the magazine or the bar?
jd

NewOxfordReview

That TN sport editor is a machine. Great section. Would love to meet him.

Stargal

cept for NO PLACE IN THE POWER LIST - you LIED to me christine!

Maybe next year Neil?

It's very funny, the people who are happy with their places/entries on the Power List have made a point of coming up to me or Andrew and saying thanks but the people who aren't happy have been bitching about it to other people (which of course has gotten back to me) rather than talking to me about it. Wusses.

the magazine or the bar?

The magazine

Chardee MacDennis

i didnt get a mention in the whole paper - absolutley crushed!!!! but seriously good edition some good work done there, although i didn't like with the coke and aliens falling from the sky articles.

also no place on the power list, bah!!!

SOL

Oh and just to make things better, the record as usual is a shocking pile of ****e and there version of events re my article is just wrong, and they named me, knob ends, I asked not to be named but their ****ing "journalist" never even asked me about the story.

Anyways sorry, latenight angry rant...

Awayindahils

*looks towards the "rant/bitch/moan" thread*

*nods*

Stargal

Wow all this love makes a change!

gilroyb

Found it a really interesting read, well done to all involved. I did have one issue though, not to be critical, but was there a new copy editor? Some of the articles seemed like they hadn't been spell checked, never mind proof read. It seemed worse than usual.

On the whole though I find this to be a good paper which has great variation in topics, particularly in this edition. I used to dislike how both papers simply had opinion pieces on the same "sexy" international issues, but you seem to have got a range of interesting writers dealing with issues that interest the broad student body.

As this is a post regarding spelling and formatting, I apologise in advance for any/all mistakes I've made.

Stargal

I think you're talking about three/four brief articles on one page, would that be right? Cos they were written very quickly as we were going to print and weren't proofread. Not excusing it, just explaining how it happened. Think the rest of the paper was ok though...?

gilroyb

stargal wrote:

I think you're talking about three/four brief articles on one page, would that be right? Cos they were written very quickly as we were going to print and weren't proofread. Not excusing it, just explaining how it happened. Think the rest of the paper was ok though...?

Could well have been it. After doing some publication work last year I know how hard it can be to get these things done totally, just that that page seemed unusually off. Made me not want to read the stories, even though they were interesting.

On another note, is it true that TN/The Record are banned from mentioning the "Pirahna incident"?

Stargal

Sorry about that dude.

On another note, is it true that TN/The Record are banned from mentioning the "Pirahna incident"?

Yep. Despite it being published in the Village, the Sunday Times and the Sunday Mirror and being talked about on several radio talk shows this morning.

Hitchhiker's Guide to...

gilroyb wrote:

On another note, is it true that TN/The Record are banned from mentioning the "Pirahna incident"?

Over in Cardiff at the moment. And the Cardiff Uni paper published some of those cartoons. Wow! They had to instantly recall all five thousand of the papers, and the editor and subeditor were fired from their full-time jobs, and subject to outrage from just about every politician in Wales. It's one way to get your name 'out there'!

gilroyb

It wasn't that the cartoons were published, just the usual Pirahna insults and bile. Nothing out of the ordinary. I'm fairly sure they wished AIDs on a election candidate and made other equally funny comments.

Thing is that they insulted Muslims, not by publishing the cartoons or other comments regarding prophets, but the same way they insult everyone and everything. College pulled Pirahna over this, I'd like to see how they explain not pulling any future edition that is anyway as offensive as the ones over the last few years.

cuckoo

Add me to the list of people liking this issue of trinity news. I enjoyed the snark in the intro to the power list - stargal, any chance of you and andrew going out in a blaze of glory in the final issue and naming the names of those who pestered you for flattering photos and an inclusion in the list?

Stargal

What?! That would make a mockery of my journalistic integrity, my principles and everything I stand for! I am shocked and appalled that you would even deign to ask me that.

*discreet cough* meet me in the underground car park at 2.15pm exactly. all will be revealed

Stargal

gilroyb wrote:

College pulled Pirahna over this, I'd like to see how they explain not pulling any future edition that is anyway as offensive as the ones over the last few years.

Yeah, good point. Thought it was interesting that the 'sand - ni***rs' jibe was in the first edition of Piranha this year too but no-one even noticed it.

Agent Smith

stargal wrote:

What?! That would make a mockery of my journalistic integrity, my principles and everything I stand for! I am shocked and appalled that you would even deign to ask me that.

*discreet cough* meet me in the underground car park at 2.15pm exactly. all will be revealed

I liked The Latest TN. TNT i'm Not too Mad on, ( i personally think the Money should Be Pumped into More " localised" news, Such as Societs, Sports-clubs and The Likes"

eg: This Months Su and Societys Page of TN ( pg 18) was Dedicated To Boards, A photo of a Winner of Tickets to the bess ball and chances to Win Tickets to the Down Under Expo. Not A single Mention of Societys in the "SU and Societys" page?


Stargal, Just wondering, What is The Budget Of TN, And TNT compared to The Record?

Stargal

Stargal, Just wondering, What is The Budget Of TN, And TNT compared to The Record?

We get one third of our funding from Capitations and then we have to raise the other two-thirds ourselves through advertising. Every edition of TN costs a little over €3,000 so we raise 2,000 and we get 1,000.

Not sure about the Record tbh.

The way TN is funded has caused problems - for instance, this is the first time since I've been in college that every single edition of the paper has come out. Usually editors have had to cut at least one (and occasionally several) issues throughout the year due to lack of money.

Andrew 83

On spelling - you're right. At least you're right for the news section. I think the other sections are quite well spell checked but the news was finished very late and with a very depleted staff so that's why there's unfortunately so many errors.

On Clubs and Societies - We had 3 pages on college sports clubs, the highest for years in this issue. I take your point on Societies, I personally think a page is fine but that's up to the individual editor for each year. I think it's something for the main paper not TNT too but again that's my line. This issue's Socs was obviosuly the least full this year but again Schols had depleted staff like with news.

On funding - It's as Stargal says in terms of funding. I think the Record costs a little less but they have less high quality paper/photos and print about 1,500 less copies of each issue. We work out at about 70 cent or so per issue, I don't know if they're as cheap as that or not.

Andrew

Agent Smith

Sports Clubs Were Just an Example,

Its Better then the record, i'll give you that, then again, the writing on the wall in to toliets is often better then the Record