Thread Unfairly Closed?

eoge

I think it's unfair that this thread has been closed: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054893716.

I started it for a legitimate reason asking a very straight-forward question. The thread was subsequently "hijacked" by two guys who posted about ten or so messages (between them) pretty much on the topic of a personal argument.

Surly there's a better way to handle this though, like maybe suspending access by these guys to a particular forum, etc?

I felt the thread had not run it's course and had hoped it would open for people to add to over time.

Am I mistaken? Do you think closing this thread was really the right thing to do?

Thanks.

kaimera

eoge wrote:

I felt the thread had not run it's course

Thats not your decision to make. It's why there are mods in place.

Very briefly read parts of the thread, have no idea whats going on tbh but the previous sentence stands.

eoge

kaimera wrote:

Thats not your decision to make.

That's a lovely attitude. I never for a moment suggested it was my decision; I asked a very straight-forward question:

Do you think closing this thread was really the right thing to do?

Shabadu

Perhaps the Moderator anticipated future off topic flamey posts on the thread?

Eoin

kaimera wrote:

Thats not your decision to make. It's why there are mods in place.

What decision? He asked why the thread was closed when it was started in good faith, and most the posts were relevant to the discussion.

CuLT

Ok, before this topic gets derailed, put away your witch-burning equipment and wait until Ph3n0m replies (I've sent him a PM on this), otherwise I predict this thread will explode in a drama-llama for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

And really, I think the Paranormal thread has OD'd everyone on drama this week.

Ph3n0m

I have decided to reopen the thread, as soon as I have cut out the crap.

But what irritates me, beside an annoying red rash is why didnt eoge PM me himself?

Fighting Irish

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054899938

Can someone have a quick look at this thread and tell me why it was locked?
Thanks

ps i put this in here because i didn't want to start a new thread

stevenmu

Fighting Irish wrote:

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054899938

Can someone have a quick look at this thread and tell me why it was locked?
Thanks

ps i put this in here because i didn't want to start a new thread

Probably because it's poll asking the best ways of breaking the law without getting caught.

Fighting Irish

stevenmu wrote:

Probably because it's poll asking the best ways of breaking the law without getting caught.

:rolleyes:

Its not against the law to use newsgroups P2P etc, why lock it? its not doing any harm to boards

koneko

A week just isn't complete unless Fightin Irish posted something moany on the Feedback board. Huzzah!

stevenmu

Fighting Irish wrote:

:rolleyes:

Its not against the law to use newsgroups P2P etc, why lock it? its not doing any harm to boards

Are you really trying to claim that you weren't asking which form of downloading is safest from the point of view of breaking the law and not getting caught ?

I'll give you a hint ...

Fighting Irish wrote:

Which is the safest way to download?
I always taught newsgroups were, but someone today told me torrents were :rolleyes:

Fighting Irish wrote:

by safest i mean, more likely not to get caught

If you weren't planning on doing anything illegal, and asking fellow boardsies to help, why would you be worried about getting caught ?

amp

koneko wrote:

A week just isn't complete unless Fightin Irish posted something moany on the Feedback board. Huzzah!

Who else will stand up to the tyranny of the moderators?

Fighting Irish

koneko wrote:

A week just isn't complete unless Fightin Irish posted something moany on the Feedback board. Huzzah!

If the place wasn't so strict maybe i wouldn't

Fighting Irish

stevenmu wrote:

Are you really trying to claim that you weren't asking which form of downloading is safest from the point of view of breaking the law and not getting caught ?

I'll give you a hint ...


If you weren't planning on doing anything illegal, and asking fellow boardsies to help, why would you be worried about getting caught ?

Yes but what harm can it cause, eveyone downloads stuff they are legally not allowed to. Me asking a question about which is the safest isn't harming anyone and won't get anyone in trouble

Ag marbh

kaimera wrote:

Thats not your decision to make. It's why there are mods in place.

Very briefly read parts of the thread, have no idea whats going on tbh but the previous sentence stands.

Get off your high horse and get a life.

Ag marbh

Ph3n0m wrote:

I have decided to reopen the thread, as soon as I have cut out the crap.

But what irritates me, beside an annoying red rash is why didnt eoge PM me himself?

In my experience PM'ing the mods after an 'offence' only gives them the ability to be ignorant towards you. Feedback is the way forward with complaints

azezil

Ag marbh smells of cat piss, hey when we going for those beers!

Ag marbh

azezil wrote:

Ag marbh smells of cat piss, hey when we going for those beers!

Would say tomorrow but i've gotta go to a gig in the evening. If you're about town on Saturday or something we could meet. I've to collect some things on Saturday morning.

koneko

Fighting Irish wrote:

If the place wasn't so strict maybe i wouldn't

Moaning day in and day out just turns you into white noise. You're the boy who cried wolf. Now, even if you have a valid point, no one is going to listen.
"Ah jeez, it's Fightin Irish again.... *tune out*"

Ag marbh, I disagree with that. A lot of mods are reasonable people. If I had closed a thread, and someone PM'd me about in a reasonable/polite manner, I would have listened to their point and said "sure thing, I'll clean it up and unlock it, you're right". Not everything has to turn into a crusade, sometimes things can be resolved very easily without conflict.

Ag marbh

koneko wrote:

Ag marbh, I disagree with that. A lot of mods are reasonable people. If I had closed a thread, and someone PM'd me about in a reasonable/polite manner, I would have listened to their point and said "sure thing, I'll clean it up and unlock it, you're right". Not everything has to turn into a crusade, sometimes things can be resolved very easily without conflict.

I don't doubt it but i'm just going from my past experience. Not all had done so but i've had a higher percentage of ignorance.

Ph3n0m

Ag marbh wrote:

In my experience PM'ing the mods after an 'offence' only gives them the ability to be ignorant towards you. Feedback is the way forward with complaints

a higher percentage of ignor...what?

Feedback is the way forward as long as everyone is looking in the same direction - and I wasnt looking here

Gordon

Ag marbh wrote:

I don't doubt it but i'm just going from my past experience. Not all had done so but i've had a higher percentage of ignorance.

So how many mods have you had run-ins with? And how many forums have you been banned from?

koneko

Ag marbh wrote:

I don't doubt it but i'm just going from my past experience. Not all had done so but i've had a higher percentage of ignorance.

Well, sending a snotty or angry PM usually doesn't get a good response, if that's what you were doing...

Ag marbh

Gordon wrote:

So how many mods have you had run-ins with? And how many forums have you been banned from?

Plenty. Oh and if you're looking for feedback, you were fantastic....

Ag marbh

koneko wrote:

Well, sending a snotty or angry PM usually doesn't get a good response, if that's what you were doing...

Assumptions!

koneko

Ag marbh wrote:

Assumptions!

Notice I said if? Apparantly not.

Asok

Ag marbh wrote:

Feedback is the way forward with complaints

Nope that would be what the helpdesk is there for.

Ag marbh

Ah no really you're all great at your unpaid job.

azezil

lol... yeah i'll give ya a shout saturday

Gordon

Ag marbh wrote:

Plenty. Oh and if you're looking for feedback, you were fantastic....

I wasn't actually but thanks, I didn't know I was doing such a fantastic job!

If you've had plenty of bans then I reckon you're just a trouble maker and would be better off going elsewhere. You're probably wasting the mods' time if you've been banned by "plenty".

Shabadu

CuLT wrote:

I predict this thread will explode in a drama-llama for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

Due to his amazing prescienct powers, CuLT for new mod of paranormal!

Ag marbh

Gordon wrote:

I wasn't actually but thanks, I didn't know I was doing such a fantastic job!

If you've had plenty of bans then I reckon you're just a trouble maker and would be better off going elsewhere. You're probably wasting the mods' time if you've been banned by "plenty".

I've had a few bans including some questionable ones like the one you gave me.

Fighting Irish

koneko wrote:

Moaning day in and day out just turns you into white noise. You're the boy who cried wolf. Now, even if you have a valid point, no one is going to listen.
"Ah jeez, it's Fightin Irish again.... *tune out*"

Fair enough, i just don't see the point in closing some threads, the reason for a message board is for people to talk and what not so as long as people are talking why close a thread?

Gordon

Then it's best if you give boards.ie a miss Ag marbh, you're obviously just out to make trouble.

Ag marbh

Gordon wrote:

Then it's best if you give boards.ie a miss Ag marbh, you're obviously just out to make trouble.

Not out to cause trouble. I wasn't causing trouble when you banned me, I just had a different opinion but we get into that.

kaimera

Ag marbh wrote:

Get off your high horse and get a life.

Am I the one waging a vendetta on the internet? Fool. :rolleyes:

Ag marbh

kaimera wrote:

Am I the one waging a vendetta on the internet? Fool. :rolleyes:

I dont think expressing an opinion is waging a vandetta !

kaimera

As was my post that you jumped at !!!!!!!!!1

Gordon

I was just expressing my opinion by banning you Ag marbh.

rsynnott

Fighting Irish wrote:

Yes but what harm can it cause, eveyone downloads stuff they are legally not allowed to. Me asking a question about which is the safest isn't harming anyone and won't get anyone in trouble

No they DON'T. Don't be silly.

In response to the OP, yes, I'm very sorry, that guy just gets my back up. The topic (web standards, not insane legal threats) comes up periodically, tho, so you should possibly be able to start a new thread safely enough.

Fighting Irish wrote:

Fair enough, i just don't see the point in closing some threads, the reason for a message board is for people to talk and what not so as long as people are talking why close a thread?

Well, when those people are talking about how best to break the law...

Fighting Irish

rsynnott wrote:

No they DON'T. Don't be silly.

eoge

Ph3n0m wrote:

Feedback is the way forward as long as everyone is looking in the same direction - and I wasnt looking here

That's fair enough. I should have PMed you. Thanks for re-opening it.

Asok

Ok all happy now
Thread closing before i goes even more off topic.