New National Taxi Fare

MyStuffForSale

Geard Deering on RTE Radio 1 outlining new fares. Is this his first public anouncement since appointment ?

Check out Taxi Regulator

which has a PDF with fare structure. Not operative until September 2006. Also has details on Regulators Action Plan for future.

Like the Mission Statement " To achieve a first class, profesional, efficent, safe and accessible, customer-friendly service for small public service vehicle passengers and service providers "

He's got his work cut out for him. Now if only you could get one on a St Patricks night !

RuggieBear

oh goodie!

does this mean the days of some ignorant **** quoting me €60 to get from Dublin city centre to Bray are soon going to be over?

MaxBax

there should be a 20 euro lazy charge in cases like that.

Alun

MaxBax wrote:

there should be a 20 euro lazy charge in cases like that.

What are you suggesting he do ... walk?

ishmael whale

RuggieBear wrote:

does this mean the days of some ignorant **** quoting me €60 to get from Dublin city centre to Bray are soon going to be over?

Effective date of 25 September 2006, although I see from the news that the taxi drivers are threatening protests over the idea.

RuggieBear

there should be a 20 euro lazy charge in cases like that

sure it's only 12 miles....:rolleyes:

Chris_533976

ishmael whale wrote:

Effective date of 25 September 2006, although I see from the news that the taxi drivers are threatening protests over the idea.

"We're protesting because we cant fleece people unfairly any more"

LFCFan

they're removing the Airport and Luggage charge which it seems is pissing the drivers off more then anything. They'll no longer have a justification for screwing tourists. Although, they'll still be able to bring them to the City Centre Via Dundalk

rubadub

RuggieBear wrote:

oh goodie!

does this mean the days of some ignorant **** quoting me €60 to get from Dublin city centre to Bray are soon going to be over?

They are not ignorant, they are fully knowledgeable that they can charge that and some fool will pay. They are kunt-fuks, not ignorant

It says it will help people outside of dublin more in the papers. I know people outside of dublin that get very cheap taxis to the local pubs, the taximan is cheap since he knows he will get lots of business on a saturday night, if he charged more people would just walk. wonder if the likes of him are now forced to charge more, seems that way but I am not sure if they are official taxis. Actually I thought they were all basically hackneys outside dublin?

LFCFan wrote:

They'll no longer have a justification for screwing tourists.

Or the ones trying to grab anything they can off you to put in the boot and charge more. "do ye need a hand putting that mobile phone in the boot boss?"

Soiling fee is now €125, if you're gonna puke do it in style and take a **** too, just to get your moneysworth

billy the squid

If it means that the taxi companies cant jack up their prices four weeks before christmas like they do here then I am all for it.

TrickyRicky

RuggieBear wrote:

oh goodie!

does this mean the days of some ignorant **** quoting me €60 to get from Dublin city centre to Bray are soon going to be over?

i hear you man, never been charged more than €50 from city centre to just off Bray Main Street, but if this is going ahead, how much are we to pay , €30-35 like what it would be on the meter? €40?

murphaph

Out here in deepest darkest D15 the trick they pull is to claim "That's fcukin Meath pal".......arseholes the majority of 'em. Only get a cab if the Nitelink's not running. Nitelink's better craic anyway.

Victor

murphaph wrote:

Out here in deepest darkest D15 the trick they pull is to claim "That's fcukin Meath pal".......arseholes the majority of 'em. Only get a cab if the Nitelink's not running. Nitelink's better craic anyway.

Glue a map to the inside of your wallet.

monument

rubadub wrote:

It says it will help people outside of dublin more in the papers. I know people outside of dublin that get very cheap taxis to the local pubs, the taximan is cheap since he knows he will get lots of business on a saturday night, if he charged more people would just walk. wonder if the likes of him are now forced to charge more, seems that way...

The reason it should help people outside Dublin more is because in theory it gets rid of all off-the-meter journeys so taxis say on the meter even when outside their licensed area.

Therefore, those dependent on taxis to get to homes a few miles outside licensed area on Saturday nights in theory will no longer be charged a number out of thin air, for lack of better words. What will happen is another thing, these people and the drivers would most likely know each other, their agreement is probably longstanding, and the taxis are in short supply at Saturday night etc.

rubadub wrote:

...but I am not sure if they are official taxis. Actually I thought they were all basically hackneys outside dublin?

No. In most parts, there are taxis just like in Dublin. We got them yesterday or maybe just last week

RuggieBear

monument wrote:

No. In most parts, there are taxis just like in Dublin. We got them yesterday or maybe just last week

...and running water and electricity?

Actually, i always found the taxi's down the country much cheaper. I remember travelling from Bantry to Durras and it cost us 5 euro each...must have been travelling for 20 mins

murphaph

monument wrote:

Therefore, those dependent on taxis to get to homes a few miles outside licensed area on Saturday nights in theory will no longer be charged a number out of thin air, for lack of better words. What will happen is another thing, these people and the drivers would most likely know each other, their agreement is probably longstanding, and the taxis are in short supply at Saturday night etc.

The thing is, in the likes of NYC cops do random checks on cabbies-no meter running=serious trouble. I've had cabbies in NYC and Boston try to pull a fast one. Just say "I'm calling the cops" and they soon snap out of it. I believe the taxi regulator here wants to see similar random inspections of cabs. It's the only way to make sure the meter is running properly. The more regulation these guys come under the better as far as I'm concerned, a lot of the are gangsters (some even literally!). They should introduce a standard colour for cabs (go with Ivory that's used in Germany as many cars are available in that colour from the different manufacturers and it's highly distinctive) and a uniform for drivers. They've made way too much money for many years with shag all regulation, time to end the gravy train and make taxi-driving what it is eveywhere else-a standard paying job.

monument

The list of passenger rights inside the cabs in NYC is a nice touch too.

I guess at least there possibly one good thing coming out of this – when you’re looking for a taxi there’s a stronger chance they’ll now actually turn their light off if they still continue to do off the meter fairs… so you wont be left standing looking like an fool with your hand out as a full taxi passes by.

"I'm calling the cops" is ok in NYC, or even Dublin, Cork, and Galway, but with towns the problem would become 'will I ever get any taxi again' if you try that one.

Our man in Havana

RuggieBear wrote:

oh goodie!

does this mean the days of some ignorant **** quoting me €60 to get from Dublin city centre to Bray are soon going to be over?

How can it be €60? Do they not use the meter? 12 miles would never run up €60.

murphaph

Bond-007 wrote:

How can it be €60? Do they not use the meter? 12 miles would never run up €60.

(most of) Bray is in Wicklow. The old system was x miles from the GPO but that was scrapped and the old county of Dublin boundary was introduced as the taximeter area some years ago. You used to be able to get to Celbridge and even Maynooth on the old system

Our man in Havana

If one asked to be dropped at the county border would the meter rate apply? Then it would be a short walk to bray.

jlang

All fine in theory, but it's not a short walk to most of Bray from the county boundary. The new estates out to the south would be looking at a several mile walk when it would have been only a minute or two extra in the cab - which would come down the M11.

Our man in Havana

Would I right in thinking once you get into a cab in dublin the driver must take you anywhere so long as it is in the metered area?

Neil_Sedaka

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054867736

Covered here a few weeks back.

jlang

Up till September - anywhere in Co Dublin. After then, anywhere up to 30km.

MrPudding

How long where the drivers screaming for a taxi regulator? How long beofre they are screaming for his death?

MrP

RuggieBear

Bond-007 wrote:

If one asked to be dropped at the county border would the meter rate apply? Then it would be a short walk to bray.

I've actually asked this a few times and have been told to **** off.

murphaph

RuggieBear wrote:

I've actually asked this a few times and have been told to **** off.

Take the taxi number down and report the ignorant cnuts to the Garda Carriage Office or this regulator chap. These knackers need to be taken out of public service. You could ask to go to an address just short of the boundary, surely there's a house on the N11 that would straddle the border? Then offer the pr!ck a fver to run you home off the meter, their a greedy shower and many would take it.

RuggieBear

ah sure i live in town now, so at most any taxi fares are 9 euro

Torq

In Athlone a taxi fare that used to be €5 has now gone up to €10 since the national fare structure was introduced. That's without them introducing the call out charge or adding per extra passenger. The regulator will be killing all the day to day trade and leaving the taxis with just the weekend night work.
Keep well,
Torq

Ham'nd'egger

Torq wrote:

In Athlone a taxi fare that used to be €5 has now gone up to €10 since the national fare structure was introduced. That's without them introducing the call out charge or adding per extra passenger. The regulator will be killing all the day to day trade and leaving the taxis with just the weekend night work.
Keep well,
Torq

In some areas, fares have increased substansially. In a lot of the country towns, all drivers would charge a fixed fare and that was it; punters knew what to pay, drivers knew what to charge and everybody was happy. Now, an agreed or fixed fare in a taxi is illegal unless agreed in writing by both passenger and driver.

Ste.phen

I've also found average fare from Dublin City Centre to my house has gone up by approx 2 euro. bastards
though most of the taxi drivers i've spoken to are happy with the new arrangements, funnily enough, i'm guessing its just the airport crowd that were whinging?

Stark

rubadub wrote:

Or the ones trying to grab anything they can off you to put in the boot and charge more. "do ye need a hand putting that mobile phone in the boot boss?"

I had a small bag on my lap last time getting a taxi from the airport and it was charged as luggage.

RuggieBear wrote:

I've actually asked this a few times and have been told to **** off.

That's nasty. At least taxi drivers in Cork were sound enough. Often as a student, I'd only have a few quid, so they'd take me as far as my money would get me and I'd walk the short remaining distance.

jlang

Under the new rules, it is allowable for the driver to offer/accept to travel for less than the meter fare (agreed fare or discount) and equally for the passenger to offer to pay more than the meter (tip). It's the opposite that the meter is designed to avoid - rip-off drivers and cheapskate passengers. I don't see why country drivers can't still offer their fixed fares as before if they think they'll do better at the end of the day.

kippy

I have lived in Galway, Dublin, Limerick and Castlebar.
Never has a taxi driver charged me a fixed fare-everything was generally on the meter, as I believed they were legally obliged to do. The Hackneys however operate on fixed price charges. Hackneys and Taxis are two different entities and have different rules associated with them.
I have always found hackneys better value with the only downside being that you cant just flag them down. Their prices are not effected by traffic and the driver will generally want to get you to your destination as quick as possible so as to get onto the next job.
In respect of the recent standardisation of charges across the country, I'd have to agree with what an earlier poster said. This seems to have pushed up the prices significantly in the regional towns and cities to such an extent that I believe people will use hackneys more and may seek other alternatives to taxis where available.
I would also think that hackneys will have put up their prices slightly as well.
Personally in the past three weeks, I have noticed the Hackney companies in the galway area being far more busy than they had been prior to the new regulations. I have no figures to back this up but I think that if any studies were to be done on this in the next few months they would show a drop off in business for taxi firms and a sharp uptake in the use of hackneys.

Davidth88

I often get a taxi from DUB airport to Celbridge , I got used to the drivers pulling out what I called the ' rip off sheet ' which had the pretext of being an official price list , I was then always charged the sum of 73 Euro !

This was not just one rogue taxi , this was ALL taxis's that had the NTDU ripoff sheet , I think the Union must have thought Celbridge was in West Meath or somewhere .

Of course this is a total ripoff , what I used to do when I was travelling privately was either get a taxi to Lucan , then get another from there or call a cab from Celbridge who charged me 40 euro.

Now with the new meter system I tried this again ,guess what the fare was....

41 Euro !!!

Yippee !

So thank you Mr Regulator

jjbrien

I live in Dublin a taxi ride from Drumcondra Road upper from lets the syylon hotel to the UGC Cinema in town used to cost me about €6 now its €9. Taht is a jump of 33% in fare.

Also my parents liver in Mullingar and the taxi fare on the meter used to be for 2 miles €4.50 its now €7.10

This is a total rip off taxi drivers told me the new fare is good for them on short runs but not long ones. I need to take a taxi on Monday from Santry to D12 on Monday I am not looking forward to the prove wit hthe new fare. I think its time for me to get a car.

ciaran76

I got a taxi from Dame Street to Littlepace (between Blanchardstownand Clonee) and the fare was not far off the price I paid a few weeks ago.
€26

Cantab.

murphaph wrote:

The thing is, in the likes of NYC cops do random checks on cabbies-no meter running=serious trouble. I've had cabbies in NYC and Boston try to pull a fast one. Just say "I'm calling the cops" and they soon snap out of it. I believe the taxi regulator here wants to see similar random inspections of cabs. It's the only way to make sure the meter is running properly. The more regulation these guys come under the better as far as I'm concerned, a lot of the are gangsters (some even literally!). They should introduce a standard colour for cabs (go with Ivory that's used in Germany as many cars are available in that colour from the different manufacturers and it's highly distinctive) and a uniform for drivers. They've made way too much money for many years with shag all regulation, time to end the gravy train and make taxi-driving what it is eveywhere else-a standard paying job.

You're just jealous. And by the way - if you think taxi drivers make such a good wage (which they do relative to your average multinational drone), then why don't you go and buy yourself a cab? There's nothing stopping you (unlike many other professions in Ireland). You can even drive in the bus lanes.

Victor

jjbrien wrote:

I live in Dublin a taxi ride from Drumcondra Road upper from lets the syylon hotel to the UGC Cinema in town used to cost me about €6 now its €9. Taht is a jump of 33% in fare.

Are you correctly comparing day -v- night fares?

RuggieBear

have to admit i was very in favour of these new fares but i'm finding taxi's very expensive now for the little jaunts i used to use them for

Ham'nd'egger

Victor wrote:

Are you correctly comparing day -v- night fares?

http://www.taxiregulator.ie/index.jsp1nID=93&2nID=94&pID=103&nID=137

The new metered rates for ALL taxis nationally. They take a little bit of reading as they now are on increased rates dpending on time and/or distance in the cab.

Let is be said that although there is a single taxi area, Taxi drivers cannot legally pick up a fare outside the area that the drivers PSV badge is licensed to. So, a driver whose PSV badge is licenced for the Dublin area can't hail a fare off the street in Cork, Navan etc. The major change in the new fares is that the area that a fare can be run on a taximeter by a taxi driver is that all fares have to be run on the metre (Unless agreed in writing)