Leaving the old for the new?? Correct way?

I'm looking for a new job and i'm getting a hard time getting time off to attend interviews and i think its because my boss knows i'm going on interviews.
Whats the correct decorum in relation to these situations ?
I have tommorrw off but he's yet to authorise my need for thurs evening and friday morning off.
I know its a lot of time off but at laest i'm doing it before people leave.
my boss knows what the craic is he knows well why were leaving....Abuse .The main reason i'm leaving is because two main people are leaving and i'll have to take over the responability of having a clue and training new people etc etc and i will not get payment or even gratitude.. Its time to move on anyway I'm not happy
anybody know what to this in this regards?

if this wrong place pls feel free to move?

The Free Man

Just take the day off. Your boss can't stop you from taking days off work. It won't matter if you get on a bad side of your current employer, even to the point that you get sacked, because you'll be leaving soon anyway!

whiskeyman

The Free Man wrote:

Just take the day off. Your boss can't stop you from taking days off work. It won't matter if you get on a bad side of your current employer, even to the point that you get sacked, because you'll be leaving soon anyway!

That's simply terrible advice.
Don't burn your bridges, no matter how bad the employer.
Do you want to tell your next potential employer you got the sack?

The mods will move this to the work forum where'll you'll get a more thought out reply.

The Free Man

to be honest, i wouldn't work at a company that wouldn't give you time off when you need it, regardless of what you do with that time off. surely if you talked to your boss and told him you are leaving, he would have to understand, unless he/she were a complete scrooge of a boss.

whiskeyman

The Free Man wrote:

to be honest, i wouldn't work at a company that wouldn't give you time off when you need it, regardless of what you do with that time off. surely if you talked to your boss and told him you are leaving, he would have to understand, unless he/she were a complete scrooge of a boss.

You dont have much experience in the working world, do you?

coolsmileygirl, just how much time are you taking off?
It sounds like you've just made it far too obvious your looking for another job.
Your boss is probably totally within his/her rights to refuse you time off given the short notice, so you might be left to go down the "sickie" route.
Be careful that you act in line with your obligations and contract with your current employer so that any action he may take against you would be unlawful. (unfair dismissal etc..).

jax frost

Listen, I've been in a job that's unhappy and abusive and you really do need to leave.

Ask yourself this:

Do you know at least one person (other than your current abusive boss) in that company who will give you a verbal reference (and a written one before you leave)?

If yes and it's not your boss,:

Fake a gynaecological appointment and, when your abusive boss asks you about your absence, tell him the exact consistency of your vaginal discharge and he'll shut up very quickly.

If no, and you're going to have to rely on your awful boss for a reference:

Tell interested companies to accommodate your needs and hold either an early morning or early evening interview. This is the done thing; you can tell them that although your current position is untenable, it is a job and you don't want to be fired or ruin the reference.

Remember that you may not want that company's reference on your CV. It is okay to say that you were in a horrible predicament in that company and explain why in an un-emotional and yet professional way. Don't slag them to death, just stick to the cold facts, i.e. people resigning, untenable workload, abusive manor etc...

Hope this helps man. If you're unhappy, split.

Good luck, sister

Cosine

like whiskeyman said burning bridges is bad. Your new employer will take a look at why your leaving and might even get in contact with your current employer. If you get sacked it might look a bit bad.

Your best bet is to call a sickie every now and then but that wont work too much specially if he already knows that you are looking for another job. Other then that theres not much you can do IMO

i applied for a few jobs and i got loads of interviews what do i do not burn my brigdes how u put it and miss good interviews
and what are the chances i'll get them considering ya know what i mean it can take a while to find the right one.

sanncoo

whiskeyman wrote:

You dont have much experience in the working world, do you?

coolsmileygirl, just how much time are you taking off?
It sounds like you've just made it far too obvious your looking for another job.
Your boss is probably totally within his/her rights to refuse you time off given the short notice, so you might be left to go down the "sickie" route.
Be careful that you act in line with your obligations and contract with your current employer so that any action he may take against you would be unlawful. (unfair dismissal etc..).

I agree, while you may not like your current working environment, you're still being paid by these people. Think of it as a means to an end until you find something better. You can succeed in getting a job without drawing too much attention to the fact that you are looking. If these potential employers are really interested in you they may be able to see you outside of office hrs.

jax frost

jax frost wrote:

Listen, I've been in a job that's unhappy and abusive and you really do need to leave.

Ask yourself this:

Do you know at least one person (other than your current abusive boss) in that company who will give you a verbal reference (and a written one before you leave)?

If yes and it's not your boss,:

Fake a gynaecological appointment and, when your abusive boss asks you about your absence, tell him the exact consistency of your vaginal discharge and he'll shut up very quickly.

If no, and you're going to have to rely on your awful boss for a reference:

Tell interested companies to accommodate your needs and hold either an early morning or early evening interview. This is the done thing; you can tell them that although your current position is untenable, it is a job and you don't want to be fired or ruin the reference.

Remember that you may not want that company's reference on your CV. It is okay to say that you were in a horrible predicament in that company and explain why in an un-emotional and yet professional way. Don't slag them to death, just stick to the cold facts, i.e. people resigning, untenable workload, abusive manor etc...

Hope this helps man. If you're unhappy, split.

Good luck, sister

ewwww in ref to the gynaecological comment
i was recently in a car accident and because i needed a car for work i took 3 seperate days off in the last month
but i have to leave my job i'm not being taken advantage of and the **** is gonna hit the fan soon in the job

bump
any more comments on this topic?

Terry

in the words of M.O.D.:
Get A Real Job
Standing on a corner
Frozen to the bone
You have to make a living
But you'd rather be at home
Your eyes start getting heavy
Still you forge on
Wake up and face the world

AND GET A REAL JOB
GET A REAL JOB

You get a little older
Your bones are brittle and weak
Dizzy in the morning
Your pulse is sounding weak
You hate to go to work
Just living for a job
Wake up and smell the coffee
And get a real job

GET A REAL JOB
GET A REAL JOB
GET A REAL JOB
GET A REAL JOB

Soon you will retire
Or maybe have a stroke
You cannot feel your finger tips
Because some veins have closed
But still you drive a hack
Or push a hotdog cart
Now it's too late for you
To get a real job

Wanted Man

Well I think you should leave your job altogether....speaking from experience, it really is a full time job looking for a job and a right job...take your time, even if it takes a month or two...don't accept the first job you are offered and employers will respect you if you say you want to think about it...worst thing you can be in any job is be too compliant because then employers will walk all over you...you should be assertive but not overly so... remember employers have to run a business and make money and can't always afford to give people days off...

So my advice is leave your current job, spend time doing up CV's, exagerate your strong points, etc...do a lot of interviews...be confident at interviews and show enthusiasm and you should have no problem finding a better job...