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PLO: Top set - flop question

  • 06-03-2006 7:50pm
    #1
    fuzzbox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭


    3/6 PLO full ring - party.

    Im on the button with 550 and QQ58 rainbow
    Shorty has 150 in the BB
    Biggy has 350 in MP somewhere

    Preflop
    3 limps to me and I limp, blinds complete and check so 6 way action

    Flop (36)
    Qd Ts 7s
    Shorty leads for pot 36, biggy repots (170), action on me


    I think shorty must have a draw, and biggy should normally have TT or maybe QT, or else the nutflush draw and other stuff.
    I would be almost certain that shorty will call, and the raise covers him in any case.

    Does anybody ever call this bet here - and get it in regardless of the turn, to try to keep him in with TT/QT ... or do you always just shove now?


Comments

  • #2
    RoundTower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    I do this quite a bit. But I don't think it makes much of a difference here, the big stack is in too deep to fold QT or TT here when you might have a draw.


  • #3
    fuzzbox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    RoundTower wrote:
    I do this quite a bit. But I don't think it makes much of a difference here, the big stack is in too deep to fold QT or TT here when you might have a draw.

    I thought so too until shorty called and he passed.


  • #4
    RoundTower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    fuzzbox wrote:
    I thought so too until shorty called and he passed.

    I don't know, if I have TT there I might not be happy about my hand, but I'm not folding. I suppose occasionally he has QT and folds when a spade hits on the turn, which would make up for the money you lose when he occasionally folds on the flop.


  • #5
    loosecannon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭loosecannon


    gotta agree, would find that a very hard (and strange) lay down in almost all cases except maybe laying down bottom set

    i think that your play is standard here and would actually think it wrong to play it any other way as the pot is laying him circa 4-1+ so unless it's a bottom set and he doesn't like it i think it's a very strange lay down!

    wp anyway!


  • #6
    fuzzbox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    Im not convinced that pushing is the best play.
    He must have either - a set, top two, or a big draw.
    He never lays down a big draw - so there is nothing that I can do to influence that, even if I push now. Shorty is certain to call.
    If I call - then he is almost obliged to put the rest in regardless of the turn (unless its a spade and he has none).

    Hmmmmm - its close I think.

    However - in this hand - there was a dude with 600 in the SB who had yet to act. I think pushing shuts him out, in case he is feeling frisky, and thats probably a good thing.

    My jury is out.

    Results:
    Shorty had AJ89 with no spades, for a wonderful wrap, but a 2c on the turn and 7c on the river gave the pot to the glorious hero.


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