Oscars

TheDoc

I'm not sure if this has been posted somewhere else but this really is the place to have it as it is compling all the years reviews into predictions.

I think its really obvious that brokeback mountian will be sweeping up, once again showing the world how the oscars is really an award for what films make us weep most and emotional, and not great filmmaking.

Bokeback mountian is heading into 8 nominations. King Kong, so said to be a brilliant movie which it was, sees no nominations for its actors nor for best film or director , but must settle for simple cinematography nominations.

Batman Begins which I thought was the best film apart from munich which I saw in ages, is up for one or two awards, manly cinematography.

Munich, one of the best films I have ever seen, and defo one of the top films of the last 12 months, sees some nominations for Best Picture and director, but nothing for acting.

Star Was episode III, the pinnacle point in the greatest story ever told, sees one nomination, makeup. A film that I thought was magnificent, not good enough for the oscars.

War of the worlds sees only 1/2 nominations. A film , that if the battle scene notorious for been deleted had have been left in, could well have been up for more.

But really, I know I'm a young male, but I do feel the Oscars to be very insignificant, I find that you can always pick the oscar winners, films that are all weepy and emotional. I alwyas belief that cinema should be an experience, something surreal that you would never experience. Something compelling.

Something like a star wars/batman begins/war of the worlds, that see absolutly no real recognition. I look at my DVD collection and the films I love and say, "These films are loved by millions, yet never receive oscar recognition, "

The examples that i always hold in high esteem:

1984 saw the release of Terminator. Terminator to this day is recognised as one of the greatest films of all time and statisticly is one of the biggest grossing films on box office history. The film cost a rough 10 million to make and raked in over 80 million dollars .No film in history has made a larger profit. Yet it was not nominated for one oscar in 1984.

1991 saw the long awaited sequel, T2 Judgement day, cost 80 million to make and raked in over 500million dollars. It is the 10th highest intake by a film in history. Not ne nomination.

Two films that were simply marvelous, proven by their insanly large intakes, and provided great entertainment, yet not one award.

TBH I feel the oscars are a sham, looknig foward to see who wins tongiht.

segadreamcast

The Oscars are something of a sham, but your list is far more shambolic. King Kong? Star Wars? War of the Worlds? I believe the CGI-bilge* awards is what you're aiming for.

*Well, King Kong was good - though not worthy of the reviews it got. Reviewers (and many here) were guilty of being caught in the Peter Jackson hype-tornado. Glad to say I wasn't part of that.

Basq

[DM]-TheDOC- wrote:

..Terminator to this day is recognised as one of the greatest films of all time..

By who?! :eek:

segadreamcast

basquille wrote:

By who?! :eek:

Hahahahaha, didn't even notice that one. By the mention of 'War of the Worlds', I stopped reading. Heh.

shuushh

best picture - brokeback mountain
best director - ang lee
best actor - philip seymour hoffman
best actress - resse whiterspoon

seems very predictable this year in the main categories, although the studio behind Crash has been pimping its oscar campaign bigtime so there could be a suprise there

heres hoping woody allen pulls off an upset and beats paul haggis for original screenplay and emmanuel lubeski wins best cinematography for the new world

anyway looking forward to giving it a look later

Pigman II

There probably should be a category for 'best movie that a lot of people actually went to see' just to make yer average punter give a damn about the oscars again.

Ironically, that said tho I've actually see all the best picture nominees apart from Brokeback. However none of them really blew me away or had me telling people "you gotta see this!". I'd probably rate them as "Crash > Munich > Capote > GoodNightGoodLuck"

nanogirl

seriosly did you like write all this without even thinking or like without seeing any of the nominated films???
i agree batman begins was class.but come on it was nothin in quality compared to walk the line!!!! i can see you like your action films, and so do i, but star wars???? i cant even start to comment on that crap!!!!:rolleyes:

TheDoc

im just kinda saying that its turning into this kinda mushy award ceromony where you only in if you had a big dramatic film. Like I'm not a lick arse of peter jackson, hes been craved over by lord of the rings and king kong, two things he didnt write or need to worry bout scripts, it was pre written.

But I felt that Batman Begins was a solid film, that maybe deserved a lil bit more.

I felt Eric Bana was marvelous in Munich, yet didnt get a sniff.

But it just hit me like while writing this, that the oscars dont really award action films, in the sort. I love all sorts of films dnt get me wrong im not a action nut. But I alwyas find action films to be the most entertaining.

And every major film journalists, critic and director and anoyne who knows bout film knows how great Terminator was, and its easily reflected by its intake. Its a film that can be watched for decades to come.

TheDoc

And i jsut metnioned war of the worlds. The films that everyone saw this year that they were entertained by this year and last.

My list was Star Wars III, War of the worlds(shoulda been better)munich,king kong,batman begins and kingdom of heaven( i think that came out last year) Films that when i came out i really enjoyed.

I just think the awards need to get more intouch of what people are viewing. I actually dont know how these results and nominations are elected, but its obviously not by the public opinion of gross intakes.

RuggieBear

lol


while i agree with your sentiment about the Oscars being the sole preserve of films that evoke emotion....your list is a joke.

While i enjoyed most of those films, i couldn't consider them Oscar-worthy (although having said that there are plenty of oscar winners that are far inferior to some of the films on your list).

TheDoc

yeah ok bad point, im just getting across the point that the oscars is emotional vill, bad list,

What i ment kinda was that those films were far more entertianing then brokeback mountain.

For instance i feel munich should get best picture. I think we can agree on that?

And if you havnt released, im a Terminator cult fan =P

Sangre

[DM]-TheDOC- wrote:

1984 saw the release of Terminator. Terminator to this day is recognised as one of the greatest films of all time and statisticly is one of the biggest grossing films on box office history. The film cost a rough 10 million to make and raked in over 80 million dollars .No film in history has made a larger profit. Yet it was not nominated for one oscar in 1984.

Surely Blair Witch Project made a much larger profit.

RuggieBear

The oscars are about "worthy" films....not fun films. Sure look how hard it is for comedies to even get nominated no matter how good the acting compared to the "emotive" film with an actor playing, for example, a disabled person: daniel day lewis, russel crow, leonardo diCaprio, Angelina Jolie, Hillary swank...to name a few off hand.

Basq

Sangre wrote:

Surely Blair Witch Project made a much larger profit.

Yep.. very true!

According to IMDB, 'The Blair Witch Project' was made for a paltry $35,000 and on the last count on IMDB (7 November 1999 - just over 3 months after it's release date in US cinemas), it had made over $140,530,114 in the US alone! :eek:

TheDoc

my bad, www.boxofficemojo shows temrinator cost 6 mill to make and raked in over 80 million

But then for a film released in the 80's.....

But yeah blair witch did make morenever saw it though, maybe if it had arnie hunting them

fade2black

Delighted Clooney won an Oscar.