Your Roughest Toughest Training Days/Club

Millionaire

This is a thread about what your Roughest Toughest Training days were or a rough tough MA club you trained in.

Before the critics, start blowing their horns, I am not glorifying this, it is just an honest question, and I am interested to hear others experiences on here!

Ok I ll go first since I started the thread.

I think for me, roughest toughest club, go back to early 1995, when I thought that kickboxing was the Ultimate MA. (UFC was hardly 2 years old then!)

I was just back in Dublin from livin in Canada where I was kickboxing in Jean Yves Theriault gym (professional kickboxer he was), and started training in MuGen Do kickboxing in Sygne St School in Dublin. I was a mu gen do man in the 80s before I went to canada.

Joe Canning was the teacher. We did kickboxing (some of it was trained Karate style, up and down the floor, self defence tricks were taught too). luckily we had a few punch bags, and it the club was well equipped.

Joe came in one night, and decided that from now one in, when training a drill, you were to try and punch your partners lights out, and if he did not get out of the way...tough luck!

The sparring was very rough, usually full contact, in fact it sometimes by knees would be knocking when he say glove up, its sparring time. back then there was only ab out 8 of us there if that. we all got on great, but come to sparring tempers would flare, and there would be a big silence in the changing room after a hard nights battering! everyone thick with each other!

Later I went on to continue my training with Joes brother George, and there was more of the same there, (maybe just not as bad).

I can remember for about 4 years having a consistent string of black eyes, fat lips, bleeding noses and bruised ribs! and maybe your head spinning at work the next day , cause you got such a whack in the head the night before at training!

Yes tough days, but I would not swap it for the world.
I think Joe calls the club Gan Teora now, and its has grown in size.

Most recent, last year I did a short stint in www.mmaireland.com which is a Kyoshinkai (spelling??) karate style mixed with judo and ground. Here there was alot of sparring and it was full contact bare knuckle, and i had a few good, and hard spars there. plus the conditioning training was scary! I had to leave as I was moving over here to sunny thailand. if you like hard training, hard sparring, and want to test your mettle, as in put your money where your mouth is, this is definately the place to go! The instructor Shane Thomas is excellent, does not take a penny for teaching, and its his passion. and he packs a solid punch too., and leg kick!...trust me I know. and it is run in a traditional Budo fashion.

So thats too rough and tough training experiences from me, which I definately feel , had built and shaped me as a martial artist and as a person too.

Of course the on going Muay Thai training can be rough and tough, but I love doing it each day too much to notice!

t_rom/reaper

i train in jiu-jitsu and seen as we cant go round actualy breaking each others arms we through harder and punch faster than usual clubs you could say we make up for what we loose out on

MaeveD

Small town somewhere in the south of France in 2000... 5 hour Aikido course... no mats!

MaxBax

If you paid for that aikido course, i'd ask for your money back.

MaxBax

Ah. the french are great.

MaeveD

Nawh I didn't pay for it.

They had arranged for rented mats to be delivered and I think the truck broke down.

Believe it or not it was a good experience... though painful and there was blood.

Another nasty day was again in France... I had less than a year of Aikido.. day one of a summer camp... 200 or so on the mat and the French wouldn't train with any of us. When the teacher realised he was furious..

Odaise Gaelach

The weekend Aikido course in NUI Maynooth last month. Before I had never trained for longer than 2 hours in one day. And this year was my first weekend course, so doing 4 hours in one day and another 2 or so the next day was really tough for me.

But it was worth it!

columok

Pre MMA League Ironman up in Two Kings MMA. Really really necessary and only cause I asked for it

8 minutes of having the crap beaten out of you by everyone. Only on the ground only with body shots with the end of a long training session. You start in a bad position- every time you escape a new person comes in (in another horrible position) and beats the tar out of you. You have to keep escaping and after the 3rd person you generally gas (especially if you're me).

It was good prep for learning to survive against an opponent who never got tired. Passing blood made it the toughest I've had. Think I've Kev( Blinky) to thank for that with some lovely kidney punches.:D I'd do it again in a heartbeat but I know it's always hellish.

judomick

i let my technique do all the work! thats why im so damn good!:cool:

seriously though a good judo randori or mma shark bait will have you crying for mercy

Colm_OReilly

I don't think O'Keeffe talked to me for the rest of the night after that session! But he was on fire in the league the next day, and during the ironman he kept going, and didn't complain.

columok

Nah Riley I asked you to do it. And I got revenge when you were doing sprawl and brawl some weeks later

Seriously though Ironman is one of those lovehate things. You never want to do it. You try and talk your way out of it. Once you do it you're so glad. Its really cathartic (sp?) and really cuts away all of the rubbish, all of the excuses and everything else.

lusk

Roper

I've had a few friendly sparring sessions that me an a few mates set up that we ended up just beating the snot out of each other. They'd be the roughest. Not the smartest though.

Cousin it

Sunday morning boxing training in Ballybrack with Paul moran and co.

running warm up, then 9 rounds of 3 mins on the heavy bag with a minimum number of punches set at like 300 - 400.

then in to the ring for 100 push ups of all sorts (wide arm, hindu, close in, diamond, etc etc.) followed by a hundred crunches.

then several rounds on the various speed/timing bags.

then sparring and I was the lightest there getting the crap kicked out of me.

Totally worth it and great atmosphere, not much compared to what most of you lads have done but I'm still proud to have done it.

Millionaire

I think a real Mentally Tough one too for me, was when I spent 1 month is Israel, doing Krav Maga Instructor course.

6 days a week, 8 - 9 hours a day of training. The air conditioning broke on day number 2, the heat was a killer, and spent most of the day drenched in sweat, like if some one dunked a bucket of water over your head.

Plus sometimes, It was boring too, all those hours and days of endless learning of KM techniques. Come the end of week 4, everyone was glad to be finishing! (the food in Israel is crap too, all Kosher stuff and not a sausage in sight!)

Though this was great for the MA CV.

fianna.5u.com

I remember back in Phibsborough doing Shark Bait against Owen Rowdy for 5 then Robbie Walsh for 5 then Dave Roache for about 3. I remeber standing there telling Kav I was wrecked half way through the round with Robbie. Kav just shook his head and obviously we kept going. Later Very Nice Pat had just gone hell for leather against Roache and was lying on the ground in bits, Kav turned to me and said "thats wrecked". Since then I push the train in Fianna as far as I can.

We have a series of pad / spar routines that are the hardest training I have ever done.

I find all that stuff quite easy though, because I love it. THe toughest training for me really was in NExt Genereation in LA. I had so much going on in my head, I had zero game, my feet were getting cut to peices and I consistently got my ass handed to me for about 2 months. THat was tough.

Peace

MaxBax

Cousin it wrote:

Sunday morning boxing training in Ballybrack with Paul moran and co.

running warm up, then 9 rounds of 3 mins on the heavy bag with a minimum number of punches set at like 300 - 400.

then in to the ring for 100 push ups of all sorts (wide arm, hindu, close in, diamond, etc etc.) followed by a hundred crunches.

then several rounds on the various speed/timing bags.

then sparring and I was the lightest there getting the crap kicked out of me.

Totally worth it and great atmosphere, not much compared to what most of you lads have done but I'm still proud to have done it.

colm d?

MaxBax

what is iron man and shark bait?

columok

Ironman: Ground positions with striking (they hit you dont hit back). You basically do it for a set period of time. Someone steps in, takes a horrible position on you(eg. Mount) and pounds on you. You have to escape. You escape- next guy comes in, takes horrible position on you (eg. North South). This continues ad nauseum (sometimes literally.). A great way to know that you can survive for 7.5 minutes against an opponent who always has better position and doesnt get tired.

Sharkbait: The same but with the "sharkbait" having to take down while the "jerks" glove up and hit them and dont let them take down. Sometimes involves ground fighting too I suppose. Generally not though.

And its not Colm D. Its bandana/scrumcap boy from SMR. (Alright E!)

MaxBax

ah right. cheers colum.

columok

No worries mate.

Millionaire

columok wrote:

Ironman: Ground positions with striking (they hit you dont hit back). You basically do it for a set period of time. Someone steps in, takes a horrible position on you(eg. Mount) and pounds on you. You have to escape. You escape- next guy comes in, takes horrible position on you (eg. North South). This continues ad nauseum (sometimes literally.). A great way to know that you can survive for 7.5 minutes against an opponent who always has better position and doesnt get tired.

Sharkbait: The same but with the "sharkbait" having to take down while the "jerks" glove up and hit them and dont let them take down. Sometimes involves ground fighting too I suppose. Generally not though.

And its not Colm D. Its bandana/scrumcap boy from SMR. (Alright E!)

Sounds like Fun! I wish I had someone to train me in this over here!!!!!

I saw Geoff Thompson do a drill like Sharkbait. The puncher always lost out to the man taking him down!

Quillo

Kaze Arashi Ryu Aiki Jujutsu in Waterford.....
Instructor used to demostrate on the younger guys as "they healed faster"