Roof trusses ...

Salem

People,
Anybody know where I might get them 'Detail Trusses' ,i.e the ones you might see in an open plan living room in place of false ceiling ... I want to have them in my new self-build house ... I'm aware they aren't cheap but what the hell, they can look really good ... There are a couple of places up north I found at the self build exp. in Belfast but I would like to source them around Dublin ... I have been quoted 5K sterling for two solid oak and treated spanning 5 metres ...
Any ideas ??

JohnBoy

Try itec homes in foynes/fermoy/drogheda, engineered timber is part of what they do, no idea how they are on price though

rooferPete

Hi,

Are you referring to "King Trusses" ? you may find someone with the skills of Kadman who could provide value for money.

By referring to Kadman I mean a person who understands the timber as much as the joints required and how to make them.

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Salem

Gave them ITEC crowd a ring ... Nice bunch of lads ... They can do them from their Limerick branch ... Yea the King Trusss tyle or similar are what I'm after ... They can do them treated with some sort of glulaminate, then I can stain them to whatever ... Good bit cheaper too ...
Thanks Guys ...
Anyone else like to comment ??

kadman

Salem wrote:

Gave them ITEC crowd a ring ... Nice bunch of lads ... They can do them from their Limerick branch ... Yea the King Trusss tyle or similar are what I'm after ... They can do them treated with some sort of glulaminate, then I can stain them to whatever ... Good bit cheaper too ...
Thanks Guys ...
Anyone else like to comment ??

Hi Salem,

Glulaminate is not a treatment of timber. Glulaminated timber , is large section beams made from thinner laminated sections, so be sure you are actually getting what you expect.

I originally thought you were looking for detail trusses made as in a post and beam erected timber frame. Maybe I was wrong, or maybe I'm right...

kadman:)

rooferPete

Hi Salem,

Glulam is a very good system, while you may get the structural strength of a King Truss, I am not sure it will look like an oak beam unless you dress it with another laminate.

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Salem

Lads,
I can't seem to find anywhere that might do a solid beam truss that has been made look period (If thats the right word) and ready to be stained/varnished ... It doesn't really have to be oak ...
The ITEC page on 'feature trusses' looks like the layout for me but yez have me a bit worried about the Glulam assembly !!
Would yez think the glulam beams can be seen as strips or as one beam ?
R.P. Not quite sure what you mean by "dressing it with another laminate" ...
I only need 2 of these with some nice purling pieces between them ...
Cheers ...

rooferPete

Hi Salem,

Gluelam is just that a lot of small pieces of timber bonded together to make a large structural beam.

What I mean by "Dressing it" is to fix another layer like finished ply over the small strips to make it look like it's one piece.

A solid beam truss should not be a problem to a good carpenter / joiner, considering they were made on site 200 years ago and are still performing the job intended.

They didn't have the tools back then that are available today, I expect your real problem is finding the right person or company who understands what you want to achieve.

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kadman

Salem wrote:

People,
Anybody know where I might get them 'Detail Trusses' ,i.e the ones you might see in an open plan living room in place of false ceiling ... I want to have them in my new self-build house ... I'm aware they aren't cheap but what the hell, they can look really good ... There are a couple of places up north I found at the self build exp. in Belfast but I would like to source them around Dublin ... I have been quoted 5K sterling for two solid oak and treated spanning 5 metres ...
Any ideas ??

Are these trusses for performing structural support for the ceiling, or are they purely for aesthetic purposes.

What was the spec offered to you for 5k. And what was the specific dimensions of the required truss. Maybe a pic will help. Are you looking for the specific olden day arrangement, mortice , tenon and pegged, or a modern day equivalent that looks olde worlde.

Glulam will always look laminated , and show all the strips in light coloured timber. But you could clad a glulam truss with either solid oak, oak mdf and corner mouldings. It could be done, and done properly will convince everyone its solid oak


kadman

Salem

Kadman,
Yea, the 'olden day' arrangement I'm after ...
The architect is completing working drgs at the moment so no actual design sketches yet but I'm trying to stay 1 step ahead ...They are basically a solid timber King truss of a 5m span with roughly 30 deg. pitch each side ... The ones for 5k had the black plates bolted at the joints ...

kadman

Are they to be used for structural support for the roof, or purely for aesthetic reasons.

kadman:)

Salem

Kadman,
Yes they will be for structural suport ...

enol

I'm resurrecting this old thread because I too am looking for structural feature trusses and got a bit of a shock at being quoted €2k each for supply only of a 5M span (35degree pitch roof) truss in Douglas Fir with purlins. I'm open to suggestions on other materials or options, but the ITEC crowd doing the alternative material seem to have disappeared?
Has anyone sourced something similar? Does anyone know of a place where I can get these for a lot less than €2k each, or know of any good chippys out there who would be willing to make them up?
Based in Meath/Cavan area.
Thanks in Advance guys

Deirdra

enol wrote: »

I'm resurrecting this old thread because I too am looking for structural feature trusses and got a bit of a shock at being quoted €2k each for supply only of a 5M span (35degree pitch roof) truss in Douglas Fir with purlins. I'm open to suggestions on other materials or options, but the ITEC crowd doing the alternative material seem to have disappeared?
Has anyone sourced something similar? Does anyone know of a place where I can get these for a lot less than €2k each, or know of any good chippys out there who would be willing to make them up?
Based in Meath/Cavan area.
Thanks in Advance guys

I'm also looking for something similar in the Cavan/Meath area. We have a 16ft square room with no ceiling in new build & I was hoping to put two oak beam truss in place as a feature. They are not needed for structural support. Thanks

a_noodle_jenny

We are in the same boat. We are going with collar ties I think - we haven't even priced them as the engineer only decided that we needed them today.

covey09

Bump any one have information on Feature trusses in Ireland, would be very greatful to hear

Jamesgrace

I'm a traditional framer and I'd suggest having a look at the design if you're getting a high quote, the more complex the joinery is the more labour is involved. I've also heard of some pretty high prices being given from timber suppliers for the raw material. Has an engineer specified section sizes? It's pretty common for timbers to be oversized because there isn't a great understanding of wood strength in some cases. Hope this helps