Is Eddie Guerrero alive???!!!

The Rooster

Got this in my inbox. I'm not really into wrestiling, so came here to see what you lot were saying about this - but I dont see anything on it - I doubt there is any possibility this can be true - or can it??

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PART ONE

Ok… Now some people will want to beat me for saying this, but I find myself asking a question that isn’t appropriate in any light. However, it feels like WWE is booking something that doesn’t seem possible and I have found myself asking myself a silly question whenever I turn on WWE. …Is Eddie Guerrero still alive?

My feeling is other people have suspected this, but no one has the pistachios to come out and say it. So here I go; Eddie Guerrero’s death could all be a big super smart angle for a return at Wrestlemania.

My brother-in-law is not a wrestling fan, but comes over to eat wings when we get PPVs. He saw some of what was going on with Rey Mysterio and wanted to know if Eddie was still alive. Whether fans want to say it or not, recent WWE storylines are making it seem like Eddie Guerrero’s death HAS BEEN BOOKED BY A PROMOTER.

Why would Vince McMahon want to go there? Why would a global megalithic corporation like WWE want to fake the death of one of its superstar performers, risking the possible backlash that would occur from worldwide media and its fans? SIMPLE… WWE figured out this formula a long time ago…Bad publicity is good publicity.

In a day when it is impossible to fool the fans due to the widely used lighting quick communication resource called the Internet, the WWE knows that “strategic leaks” are the only way you can really throw off the modern wrestling fan and subsequently create interest. Recent examples of this have shown that there is money to be made from false leaks if it is done correctly.

The Edge & Hardy scandal was amplified, exploited and leaked, then turned into a moneymaker (though it was too bad Matt Hardy botched his return promo)… Chris Jericho puts up a TNA logo on his site to keep interest on him. Go back a few years and you will see other examples. Brian Pillman convinced WCW to break his contract so his crazy gimmick looked legit to anyone who might do the research (only to jump to WWF.) Vince Russo drops false rumors on the Internet to throw fans off to create more shock when storylines go the other way. Austin amplifies his hatred toward Eric Bischoff in an ECW stint to get sympathy from the crowd and to push the envelope of boss-hating.

Good wrestling promoters have a history of twisting the truth to make the most believable storylines going (i.e. Road Warrior Hawk drunk angle, Bret got screwed angle, N.W.O. and other various invasion plots etc…) The promoters even work the wrestlers to get the leaks that they want these days and visa-versa.

There is so much foreshadowing going on that makes me think WWE is planning an “Eddie Return.” I know that odds of this are slim, and that this blog will be looked at as a big conspiracy theory. I agree with you and it is wrong to say it. But it would be even more wrong if they did it. What if Eddie’s death was a work? If it is, it is the greatest and, at the same time, the rudest work of all time.

I have asked a number of people in the business what they think about this and they say all about the same thing. “You are crazy,” or “I think that would be too F’ed up,” but after I drop a few little bombs on them that have made me wonder, they have wondered too.

The last time Eddie was on television, Ken Kennedy had hit him in the head with a chair. After the match, there was a promo with Batista. His head was all bandaged up and Batista was concerned. The last words Eddie said were, “Don’t worry about me, I am going to be alright.” This footage might be revisited if this is a big rude angle.

At the Eddie Guerrero Press Conference, Vince McMahon and Chavo Guerrero seemed to me to have too much composure. At the time when I watched it, I figured to myself, “Wow, Chavo is doing such a great job.” He didn’t seem sad and I figured if it were me, I would have been bawling my eyes out. I wondered why at the time and then resolved that it must just be he knew this day would eventually come, or maybe they were not as close as he had always told everyone. I look back now and wonder if this is a work, did Chavo think it wasn’t going to work.

Either there was and still is a lot of bad taste going on, or Eddie is still alive. Vince McMahon is a bastard, but grilling Eddie’s wife Vickie, a day or so after his death on live TV?!? How does someone even approach the option? How can you ask a widow to appear on TV when her husband isn’t even in the ground yet? Does WWE have no respect for dead people and mourning? Or did Vickie just get off the phone with a clean-shaven bald-headed Eddie Guerrero who is camping out in Jamaica?

Well if Eddie is alive and hiding out, how could this secret have lasted for four months? My guess is, if this is a work, the lockerroom could still be partially kayfabed to cut down possible leaks. And moreover, Eddie is probably just camping out, or maybe getting some kind of surgery somewhere and is indeed out of the public eye.

The WWE Raw & Smackdown Tribute shows seemed to contrived. While some of the wrestlers seemed very upset and concerned, others seemed like they needed to play to the camera. Now it is impossible to speculate (if this is a work) who knew and who did not know at the time of these shows. It is possible that only a tight group of people actually know the truth and might not have known the truth at the time of filming. I would suspect some (like Benoit) were informed immediately after the shooting with Eddie calling them. But even at that, Rey Mysterio did not seem moved at all. Mysterio taking off his mask seemed like the cliché “let’s make this look real” thing to do.

The tribute shows had a tinge of bull**** to them. The commentators on both shows said, “Eddie would have wanted this,” about a hundred times to validate what seemed like a moneymaker. This could be foreshadowing Vince blaming a return angle on Eddie, to keep the heat off of him in the future.

It is fact that most wrestlers have never been great actors, and the few who are have usually moved on to bigger and better the things. At the tribute shows, there was definitely a vibe of bad acting going on, which to me smells like a work. But were the wrestlers working the fans due to a future storyline, or because they felt obligated to be teary-eyed and were not?

One theory on the bad-acting vibe is maybe the wrestlers thought that they should be crying but were not, so they tried to. Seemed like some of the wrestlers were forcing themselves to cry because they thought that is what they should do in this situation, but the tears just were not turning on …It is possible that forced tears is the product of a desensitization to wrestler deaths –seeing how there have been so many. HOWEVER, forced tears could also be the product of the bad acting that goes along with another storyline.

The Rooster

PART TWO

I am sure that WWE knows how big the next-night ratings were when Pillman passed away and also Owen Hart. But they never had TWO tribute shows, due to a death in the family, nor has any death lasted as long with so much TV time and recognition as this one has.

WWE has referenced Eddie’s death NUMEROUS times every single show. It has continuously reminded the fans by armbands on Chavo (on Raw) and Rey Mysterio (on Smackdown) that Eddie Guerrero is no longer with us. Either this is a super sign of respect for the dead and the WWE has finally got it and learned that life is valuable and we should not forget, or (gulp) …it means something else, something I hate to even think of.

It means we need to remember Eddie’s death, for a big twist ending at Wrestlemania that rivals pop culture’s desire for twist endings (i.e. Fight Club & Saw). It means that WWE knows people think Tupac is still alive and have figured out how to make money off of people’s inabilities to let go of loved ones.

Eddie Guerrero’s book is ironically titled “Cheating Death.”

With a widespread headline death like this one, it seems odd that there isn’t much out there to validate it. Findagrave.com has Owen Hart’s tombstone, but there is only a picture of the cemetery that Eddie is supposed to be in. The Smoking Gun has no documents at this time, relating to his death, though documents would not necessarily prove anything anyhow. I also cannot find any evidence that a life insurance check has been cashed.

The funeral was private with only a few dozen or so family and friends. The list of people are all related to the wrestling business. The funeral itself was ministered by SUPERSTAR BILLY GRAHAM - another wrestler.

Foreshadowing was light in the first few months, but now it is seemingly becoming more heavy with Benoit now joining Chavo and Mysterio using signature Eddie moves. If you watch and think about how foreshadowing could be a possibility, you will see why I am writing this right now, be it reluctant or not.

Current WWE programming has incorporated the entire Eddie Guerrero death into a storyline that is involving his wife, his best friends, and his nephew. One reason that makes me subscribe to this conspiracy theory is that these people would NOT want a part of this. Another reason I am in quandary is that I cannot understand how a writer for Smackdown can approach someone and even ask them to say “Eddie is not up there in heaven Rey, he is down there (in hell.)” With Eddie being a religious man, I would gather this would not bode well around those who loved him.

MORE FORESHADOWING… At No Way Out, they spent so much seemingly unnecessary time on Rey Mysterio when the match was over that WWE has to be planning something big. At No Way Out, Rey Mysterio lost his Wrestlemania spot to Randy Orton. He is mortified that he “let Eddie down” and lingers in the ring forever. Then he walks down a line of wrestlers in sorrow.

Rey supposedly dedicated his Royal Rumble match win to Eddie. He has now lost his Wrestlemania spot and this sets up a much-needed climax for a big finish at what WWE considers their biggest event of any year. A typical storyline in literature places a hero in must-win situation to avenge the dead, and all fingers should have been pointing at Rey to win at Wrestlemania. Now, they could still book this, with Teddy Long coming out on the next Smackdown and saying that Orton will have to now take on Rey as well in a three way at Wrestlemania, due to the fact that he held the ropes during the pin. However, another way to book this comes to mind as well.

Imagine Wrestlemania. A Rey Mysterio run-in fails and Randy Orton is beating the crap out of him in front of Vickie Guerrero (who is sitting at ringside collecting an appearance check.) Eddie out of nowhere jumps the fence, knocks out Orton. Rey looks up in disbelief. The audience is stunned. The next night on RAW… “I liiiiiied!”

It just seems likely that if Vince McMahon wanted to pick one wrestler to pull off the biggest work of all time and have him fake his death, he would pick the one whose maxim is “I Lie, I Cheat. I Steal.”

I am a wrestling manager; my ring name is Kenny Casanova. I did not know Eddie very well, but did have an opportunity to work with him on a few occasions. I hung out with him one weekend, driving him around Massachusetts for a couple of shows and he seemed like a great guy. He was constantly on the phone with his family and joking with people. He stopped in the mall to talk to a few fans. He was really down to earth. Before you blast me, keep in mind that this blog has in no way been written to disrespect him, but rather to disrespect the potential ruse that WWE might be planning.

I don’t believe in ghosts. I doubt the government is hiding information about life on other planets from us. I do not subscribe to conspiracy theories. However, this could be one of the BIGGEST ruses in history. If this is a big work, I have mixed emotions about it. I say kudos to Vince for looking at how people have subscribed to such fallacies in pop culture, such as Tupac or Elvis being still alive and figured out a way to capitalize on it. At the same time, I also think it is a work in bad taste and the trust factor would be out the window forever.

I will, however, not be shocked at Wrestlemania if an angle in wrestling were able to once again finally fool such a large population. It is slightly possible, that the Internet did not prevail this time, and the wool has been pulled over the eyes of millions. Even the smartest of all smart marks, could all be classified as gullible marks once again.

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bombidol

Nope, he is dead.

gimmick

Read this the other day, and posted it on the IWW forum. Its the biggest pile of crap I have ever seen.

Mossy Monk

The Rooster wrote:

Imagine Wrestlemania. A Rey Mysterio run-in fails and Randy Orton is beating the crap out of him in front of Vickie Guerrero (who is sitting at ringside collecting an appearance check.) Eddie out of nowhere jumps the fence, knocks out Orton. Rey looks up in disbelief. The audience is stunned. The next night on RAW… “I liiiiiied!”

i would honestly never watch WWE programming again. to **** around with peoples emotions is wrong

but as mentioned he is dead

shinzon

Id very much doubt hes still alive, besides which if it was a hoax, why splash it all over the media as it was done and have a press conference with vince chavo etc and that night on raw have the entire locker room come out to the sounding of the ring bell 10 times

like him or hate him vince still carries on the traditions of wrestling, when that ring bell tolls 10 times you can be assured the wrestler in question has passed on

Shin

Cactus Col

The Rooster wrote:

My feeling is other people have suspected this, but no one has the pistachios to come out and say it.

My favourite part. As if a backlash from wrestling fans on the internet is something to be frightened of.

I can now imagine the "It's still real to me" dude chasing down some other guy and making him bite the kerb for spreading rumours.

Dragan

Besides, it's not really the most legal thing in the world to do, faking your own death and all.

I love internet morons.

J.R.HARTLEY

it waould be a very expensive hoax paying for the funeral and all.
i think eddie has passed alright,

the sunbabe wan

I WOULD be very very pissed off that was true and would never watch wwe programming again.... that would be just fawked up if they did that..... a lot of fans are still getting over the fact that they've lost one of thier favourite and greatest wrestlers ever.


it's sad, but he has passed on to another place, and i hope he's at peace

Fozzy

I haven't read the full thing yet, but the thought that Eddie's alive keeps crossing my mind. It's nothing to do with any rumours or thoughts about conspiracies though, it's just cos I miss him and wish he were still on SD

The way he talks in his book, you know full well that faking his death is something Eddie would never do

Stalfos

Funnily enough, i was thinking this myself a while back as it would fit his Character nicely but i'd say i was still in denial about the whole thing. But he is dead.

Laguna

To be truly honest, do you really think the WWE would be so morally wrong as to make someones death (which has been heavily publicised and media saturated through tribute shows and press conferences) a publicity stunt?, I personally don't think so. I think the poor chap is dead, I really doubt the WWE is so short on "storylines" that they need to pretend one of their stars died to generate audiences and to be quite frank, to question the validity of Guerrero's death is strange, do you think he's going to jump out of a massive cake holding Elvis by the hand in the middle of the ring come Wrestlemania time? ..

Fozzy

Just wondering, I don't get this bit:

Vince McMahon is a bastard, but grilling Eddie’s wife Vickie, a day or so after his death on live TV?!?

When was Vickie on tv? I don't remember that at all

Also, the point about both shows being tribute shows, they had to do it as they were taped the same night. They could hardly have two hours of tribute, and then continue on with taping an episode of SD, which Eddie was meant to play a big part in. Just twisted facts

TOPDAWG

Stalfos wrote:

Funnily enough, i was thinking this myself a while back as it would fit his Character nicely but i'd say i was still in denial about the whole thing. But he is dead.

I honestly thought i was the only one thinkin that!:o
Especially the last few days cos ive been laid up and got about to reading his book and the watching the dvd!! You wouldnt know whether to be mad or happy about it tho if it was an angle. Most definitely mad but we used to take him for granted (as we prob do a lot of the current rosters) but what ya wouldnt give to see him cruise out in a lowrider one last time!

madhitchhiker

Dragan wrote:

Besides, it's not really the most legal thing in the world to do, faking your own death and all.

Eddie Guerrero will be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame on April 1, 2006.:)

Chong

Tbh I think Vince has the grapefruits to do this, and even though it may be controversy taken to a whole new level, I think would be unbelievable if he managed to pull this off. There is just too many references to Eddie at the moment, but in saying this the backlash would be crazy.

Chong

Really if you think about it , Wrestlemania has certainly not got that spark this year. This would totally stun the world in every regard.

neacy69

hmmmm some interesting points in there cant really see that happening at all but sounds crazy enough that it might just be true

but no i think hes dead RIP

ianmc38

To even entertain the thought that they have pulled a big death faking stunt is just absurd. TBH.

the sunbabe wan

Fozzy wrote:

I haven't read the full thing yet, but the thought that Eddie's alive keeps crossing my mind. It's nothing to do with any rumours or thoughts about conspiracies though, it's just cos I miss him and wish he were still on SD

i'm in the same boat, there are time i still expect to see him coming out in the lowrider


also if he did fake his own death, then the awards that he has gotten um would have to be given back.... and the fact that the wwe have put him into the hall of fame.... why and what would they have to gain??? they would lose many fans if those rumours were true

Mitch Connor

where did the initial post come from?

the first poster says they have no real interest in wrestling, and that it was in thier inbox (email or boards.ie PM?) and a subsequent poster says they read it yesterday and posted it on another forum. So, where does the peice originally come from? COULD it be a wwe circular? the piece makes reference to the WWE increasingly using the internat to fuel their stories and keep fans off balance, could this be that in action? (Just playing Devils Advocate)

I believe Eddie is dead, i wish he weren't, but i believe he is. No one could be sick enough to do something like this - sure 'no publicity is bad publicity' is a phrase bandied about, but i think it would turn more people off WWE then it would hook, and i think no one would ever look at Eddie in the same light again. There is also the fact, there is no way they could keep it under raps for so long, Eddie would have been spotted by now.

RIP Eddie.

gimmick

www.KennyCasanova.com is where this was done originally.

yak_kadafi

Nope hes dead...why cant people just let the man rest???
RIP eddie....latino heat..
mourn you til i join you

Nunu

This line of thinking is absurd. I could go on forever at how ridiculous and wrong it is on every level. But, I wont, I'll just say this. Eddie Guerrero had a family with 3 young kids, which mattered more to him than anything else. He above most would be utterly incensed at the notion of such a storyline. How could anyone think for one second that he'd agree to fake his own death, while letting his impressionable kids in on the ruse(which they obviously would have to be) and then lie low for months seperated from his loved ones. He'd never do it because it would harm his children mentally and he would be totally against the idea of having them in on the plot. He was contracted to the WWE, his kids are not.

Chong

Still Vince would be a legend if this true . Legend for being the biggest B0ll0x of all time.

RVN10

a legend in one mind best story line ever , but if nothin sucomes from this shame on everyone for doubting someones death

andyman

Eddie is dead. If he was hiding out he would have been found at this time. Even if Vince had the grapefruits to do this...Eddie wouldn't

Chong

Sorry to be bringing this up but does anyone think it may just happen now that we are on the eve of Wrestlemania.

gimmick

No.

triple h

next thing you hear will be the bookies given odds on eddie or elvis coming back from the dead. who will be first, the bookies will ask.

castagnoli

If Eddie Guerrero is still alive I'm gonna do to him what Stewie Griffin did to Will Ferrell.

the sunbabe wan

:rolleyes: lord help us.... nope nope nope nope