Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Fitz €270 game report please

  • 24-02-2006 11:32am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,079 ✭✭✭


    Any reports, juicy BB Stories, Cool plays, who was in the money? Runners and Riders etc., etc., ?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    smurph wrote:
    Any reports, juicy BB Stories, Cool plays, who was in the money? Runners and Riders etc., etc., ?

    110 runners i think

    I came 10th bohsman was 6th or 5th, don't think any other boardsters were on the FT. the FT after bohsman and Lesley McClean got knocked out went drastically downhill.

    The closest thing to a BB story from me is down to 11 my AA against 3 all-in's board came

    234 turn 5 lovley I'll take 3 out, A on the river for a 4 way split grrrr

    I also took home a story to tell the grand children by knocking out the one and only Mr Mike Lacey, sorry MIKE!


    EDIT: (Too tired for a full report)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,079 ✭✭✭smurph


    ntlbell wrote:
    110 runners i think

    I came 10th bohsman was 6th or 5th, don't think any other boardsters were on the FT. the FT after bohsman and Lesley McClean got knocked out went drastically downhill.

    The closest thing to a BB story from me is down to 11 my AA against 3 all-in's board came

    234 turn 5 lovley I'll take 3 out, A on the river for a 4 way split grrrr

    I also took home a story to tell the grand children by knocking out the one and only Mr Mike Lacey, sorry MIKE!


    EDIT: (Too tired for a full report)

    No problem, good report.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Shortstack


    ntlbell wrote:
    110 runners i think

    I came 10th bohsman was 6th or 5th, don't think any other boardsters were on the FT. the FT after bohsman and Lesley McClean got knocked out went drastically downhill.

    The closest thing to a BB story from me is down to 11 my AA against 3 all-in's board came

    234 turn 5 lovley I'll take 3 out, A on the river for a 4 way split grrrr

    I also took home a story to tell the grand children by knocking out the one and only Mr Mike Lacey, sorry MIKE!


    EDIT: (Too tired for a full report)

    Lol!

    I have been wondering who you were! The player two to your left was brutal, he made my shortstack play a little more difficult as he was likely to call in the blinds with anything.

    You were playing well as far as I could see. The AK vs AQ hand was horrible for you. I was surprised to be 50/50 when you re-raised all in on my last hand. At least I know I will win the next 50/50 against you :)

    My own tournie was pretty straightforward, a few AK that hit and a KJ full house got me up to 14k within 2 levels but then the cards and opportunities dried up. I had to lay QQ down preflop and play the next QQ in the small blind very aggressively pre flop to get rid of the brutal player who had limped and a solid player who had raised.

    A triple up with AJ vs 99 nealry had me back in the game late on but missing with KQs against brutal player who bet a Jack high flop cost me a third of my stack and I was back to wait and shove mode.

    I really wanted to be the first Antes Up team member to cash in an event but it was not be this time.... 22nd - almost the bubble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Shortstack wrote:
    Lol!

    I have been wondering who you were! The player two to your left was brutal, he made my shortstack play a little more difficult as he was likely to call in the blinds with anything.

    he came second!!!

    he had nearly 500k in chips, and through it away in two hands, about 300k on a flush draw, and the last 200k with QJ claling an all-in.

    When it got down to 3 it was actually embarassing to watch, he had to ask every single time was it his blind, which was he big or small, how much was it, heartbreaking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,127 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    that last post is interesting, you see i get poker is a game of skill and you can do things to imporve your chances of winning,but how in gods name can such a player get to the last table? i was playing a small tournament the other day and won the thing in no time, thing was i would not have been favourite, and lost the next two tournaments, im just saying what comes down and luck, chance, stupid moves by opponents and yourself,make a huge differene!


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Idbatterim wrote:
    that last post is interesting, you see i get poker is a game of skill and you can do things to imporve your chances of winning,but how in gods name can such a player get to the last table? i was playing a small tournament the other day and won the thing in no time, thing was i would not have been favourite, and lost the next two tournaments, im just saying what comes down and luck, chance, stupid moves by opponents and yourself,make a huge differene!

    Every dog has it's day I guess?

    When you don't understand what's going on in your own head, how on earth is someone else suppose to?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭ollyk1


    Any time to give us a report from the big one Culchie?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭Hitman Actual


    Idbatterim wrote:
    that last post is interesting, you see i get poker is a game of skill and you can do things to imporve your chances of winning,but how in gods name can such a player get to the last table? i was playing a small tournament the other day and won the thing in no time, thing was i would not have been favourite, and lost the next two tournaments, im just saying what comes down and luck, chance, stupid moves by opponents and yourself,make a huge differene!

    A pure lucky night, but it will probably never happen again. I remember a guy winning the Friday scalps game in the Fitz in a similar way about a year ago. He called every every bet/raise with Jx+, hit everything, and amassed a lot of chips. But any time I've seen him play since, his "style" is still the same, and I dont think he's been near the money since.

    Well done Oscar, btw. And the same for NTLBell, or perhaps hard luck?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,047 ✭✭✭Culchie


    ollyk1 wrote:
    Any time to give us a report from the big one Culchie?

    b***tard :(

    Nearly secured my ticket in the freeroll, and was grinning to myself about your thread with A7 on final table with Gholi ... cos you seen me fold A8 when I shouldn't have in a similar situation. (pokypoky?)


    Anyways,
    I got off to good start, with Dom (5starpool) on table, along with Phil (ginger hair) and was up to about 8.5k when table got broke up after an hour or so.

    It went all downhill after that.

    Got involved in a pot where I had JJ and ran into a flush draw that hit on the turn. That was the decent last hand I had... and that was just before the break.

    Then ... the defining hand really of the night for me.

    I was down to 5k ish and this hand happened, which killed me.

    I'm in BB with Q 10, one limper (large stack, non stop talking before, during, and after hands, headache material) on the button, sb completes, I check. Blinds 300/600, I have 4.5k or so after posting BB.

    Flop comes Q 6 5, I bet out 800, button moves all in, sb folds... so I've just about 3750 behind.

    My gut instinct told me I was ahead, which is why I'm disappointed.

    I let myself talk myself into thinking "the only reason you think you are ahead, is because this guy is an ass" I couldn't pin him on a hand, as I thought he would have raised with AQ or KQ, any decent pair. He wasn't the type to play 6 5, so I figured it could be a set of 66's or 5's, but most probably JQ, maybe QK
    He surely knew I hit the flop as I hadn't played a hand in an hour.

    So I folded, showing him the Q, and he showed me AK.

    That left me a dead duck, and I went out 20 mins later when I moved with blinds at 400/800 my last 2800-3000 with a Suited Ace and got busted.

    I really got decent hands early on, but really poor cards after break, not even connected..... but that fold was the defining point of the night, if I had called, I was back in the pack with 10K

    Wimpish fold you think?

    The steak pie was lovely though.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭TrueDub


    As it was my first jaunt at the Fitz €270 game, I thought I'd jot down my thoughts.

    I decided that I'd give the STT satellites a go, as the buy-in is a bit steep for my bankroll, but a couple of €30 satellites would be fun, and would give me a chance of getting into the big one.

    The first satellite didn't go so well (my idiotic love of top-pair costing me dear, as always), but the second went nicely, and I had my ticket. Watching the one-hand blind omaha games was an absolute scream!

    When I sat down at Table 8, I discovered there were a lot of characters there with me, including Joe O'Neill immediately to my left. I found the first few rounds gentle (the 5000 stack helps), and tripped along for the first few levels. I won a couple of pots, mostly without showing, although I erred a few times by over-betting the pot & not getting any callers when I had good cards.

    The banter at the table, as you can imagine, was flying and was very amusing. Some people would not enjoy this, but I found it relaxing, and it removed some of the tension I'd otherwise have felt.

    At the break, I had 4600 - just below the starting stack, but I was happy with this & felt comfortable. The food at the break was excellent, with the only drawback being the scarcity of cutlery!

    Immediately after the break i was involved in an interesting situation. I had Jc-something, and the hand was checked all the way to the river, which left me with a jack-high club flush. A guy two seats to my right bet 400 on the river, and I simply called, afraid of a higher flush. When everyone folded round to him, he mucked, then looked at me as if expecting me to show my hand. I simply mucked it & raked in the pot.

    This table broke shortly afterwards, and I moved to a much quieter table. There I got some good cards and built my stack up to roughly 11,000 or so. When this table was broken I was moved to a very aggressive table, with a couple of good players from Cork, Joe O'Neill (again), and a few Fitz regulars whom I recognise but don't know by name.

    Here I got a bit call-happy and lost a lot of chips by calling with moderate cards that then completely missed the flop. This steadily bit into my stack, despite the odd steal.

    I did win one interesting hand here. Having been dealt the As-10c, I limped into the pot. Three spades fell on the flop, so I bet, and the only caller was one of the Cork gents, a tall man with grey hair (Sean?). The river brought the other spade, but the 8s would have given him the straight flush, so rather than pushing I bet 2000 (BB was 600).

    He looked at me, and said "You're lucky I don't have the 8 of spades", and flashed a red 8. He then hummed & hawed, and finally called. I turned over the ace & raked in the pot. While he was thinking, I was frantically trying to decide whether he had invalidated his hand by showing one card, and if so whether I'd have the balls to call for his hand to be declared dead!

    While I was collecting the pot, Joe O'Neill pointed out to him that his hand was dead, said something like "I bet yer man would have called you on it if he was bluffing". I agreed with him, naturally...

    Again, bad calls cost me chips, and soon enough I was down to around 6000 or so. Then I was dealt AQ suited (possibly hearts), and a young guy down the end went allin for 3500. I called, and he turned over KK. His hand held up, but I felt it was a reasonable call.

    I can't say that about the next hand I played, however. In the BB I was dealt 9-6 o/s. The guy to my immediate left (tall thin guy, good player) flat-called, and there was only the pair of us in it. The flop was King-Jack-something, we both check. The turn is a 9, I ponder for a minute, then bet 1000 of my 2500 stack. He calls. The river is a blank, I check, and he bets 500 (I think). I call, figuring him for a bluff, and he turns over KJ for top two-pair! Shows what I know...

    This left me with 1000 chips, blinds 400-600, and a round to catch a hand. Nothing arrives until I'm in the BB, when AQ appears in front of me. I go all-in, and get one caller, a Fitz regular. He turns QQ, and I'm out in 40th or 41st.

    All in all, I really enjoyed the night, and learnt a lot, not least being that if you relax and wait for cards you can do well even in this big game.

    Early in the evening I asked 5StarPool to point out any Boardies he saw, and through this I got to meet Culchie, NTLBell and Doc Farrell. Several others were pointed out to me, but I didn't get a chance to say Hello. I was particularly grateful to Doc Farrell for offering me an aspirin when he heard I was sitting next to Joe O'Neill! :D

    My final analysis would be to be more selective on what hands I play, simply to avoid throwing away chips when the blinds get bigger. I'll definitely be in to play in the SNG satellites for the next one.

    With the Fitz Bubble tourney tomorrow evening, followed by the PPP WSOP Monthly Freezeout & the Irish Open Weekly Qualifier, it'll be a busy poker weekend!


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭ollyk1


    Cheers Culchie!:p

    Yeah you definitely should have called with the A8 in the freeroll but you knew that yourself as soon as you folded. :D

    The QT hand is tricky. I check raise all-in on the flop (without a read) or check push the turn but mainly I'm hoping to check raise in order to get myself action from hands worse then mine who are then piot committed to calling me. I hate the raise and fold line. Its very hard to put the guy on a badly played AK here.

    You are a short stack and you want someone trying to bully you, you have top pair and are almost pot committed so I check and let him have a stab because I'm going to go all-in unless I have a read.

    If I'm going to bet I bet more as it was a very weak lead and maybe gave him the encouragement to push. I call because why would you push with tptk? If it was me in late position i'd flat call and let the shortstack blow his brains out on the turn while I'm sitting there with AQ.

    Better players then me might have a different line here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,047 ✭✭✭Culchie


    ollyk1 wrote:
    Cheers Culchie!:p

    Yeah you definitely should have called with the A8 in the freeroll but you knew that yourself as soon as you folded. :D

    The QT hand is tricky. I check raise all-in on the flop (without a read) or check push the turn but mainly I'm hoping to check raise in order to get myself action from hands worse then mine who are then piot committed to calling me. I hate the raise and fold line. Its very hard to put the guy on a badly played AK here.

    You are a short stack and you want someone trying to bully you, you have top pair and are almost pot committed so I check and let him have a stab because I'm going to go all-in unless I have a read.

    If I'm going to bet I bet more as it was a very weak lead and maybe gave him the encouragement to push. I call because why would you push with tptk? If it was me in late position i'd flat call and let the shortstack blow his brains out on the turn while I'm sitting there with AQ.

    Better players then me might have a different line here.

    Nah, that's my feeling on it as well. Badly played.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    TrueDud wrote:

    I was particularly grateful to Doc Farrell for offering me an aspirin when he heard I was sitting next to Joe O'Neill! :D

    He didn't offer me one! not that I was near Joe, but you don't have to be, he was as loud as his pink shirt!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Gholimoli


    Culchie wrote:
    Nah, that's my feeling on it as well. Badly played.
    Culchie ,
    just wondering if you have a clone?
    from the threads i get it that you were both at the fitz game and at the Mikes game?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    ollyk1 wrote:
    Cheers Culchie!:p




    If I'm going to bet I bet more as it was a very weak lead and maybe gave him the encouragement to push. I call because why would you push with tptk? If it was me in late position i'd flat call and let the shortstack blow his brains out on the turn while I'm sitting there with AQ.

    Better players then me might have a different line here.

    It's very hard to put him on AQ here, when culchie told me I came up with the same hand's he did 55/66/QJ

    It's a very tough call one I don't think I'd of been able to make.

    I probably would of comitted myself alot more on the flop tho so I couldn't be pushed off, maybe the post flop bet was a bit weak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Gholimoli wrote:
    Culchie ,
    just wondering if you have a clone?
    from the threads i get it that you were both at the fitz game and at the Mikes game?

    Mike was at the fitz game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,047 ✭✭✭Culchie


    Gholimoli wrote:
    Culchie ,
    just wondering if you have a clone?
    from the threads i get it that you were both at the fitz game and at the Mikes game?

    I wasn't at Mike's game. Nope no clone either, lucky world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,047 ✭✭✭Culchie


    ntlbell wrote:
    I probably would of comitted myself alot more on the flop tho so I couldn't be pushed off, maybe the post flop bet was a bit weak.

    This was indeed the fatal mistake. Any bigger I was pot committed, which ironically why I bet the size I did, to prevent it. Mistake full stop, should have just gone with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭ollyk1


    Culchie wrote:
    This was indeed the fatal mistake. Any bigger I was pot committed, which ironically why I bet the size I did, to prevent it. Mistake full stop, should have just gone with it.


    this is why I check raise. I don't want to only get action from hands that beat me here. Let him overbet a draw or a pp (88-TT say) and raise all-in. If he has a better queen so be it otherwise I'm in a good spot. Betting bigger only gets me killed. There is 1800 in the pot any decent bet is pot commited for your stack.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    Culchie wrote:
    b***tard :(

    Nearly secured my ticket in the freeroll, and was grinning to myself about your thread with A7 on final table with Gholi ... cos you seen me fold A8 when I shouldn't have in a similar situation. (pokypoky?)


    Anyways,
    I got off to good start, with Dom (5starpool) on table, along with Phil (ginger hair) and was up to about 8.5k when table got broke up after an hour or so.

    It went all downhill after that.

    Got involved in a pot where I had JJ and ran into a flush draw that hit on the turn. That was the decent last hand I had... and that was just before the break.

    Then ... the defining hand really of the night for me.

    I was down to 5k ish and this hand happened, which killed me.

    I'm in BB with Q 10, one limper (large stack, non stop talking before, during, and after hands, headache material) on the button, sb completes, I check. Blinds 300/600, I have 4.5k or so after posting BB.

    Flop comes Q 6 5, I bet out 800, button moves all in, sb folds... so I've just about 3750 behind.

    My gut instinct told me I was ahead, which is why I'm disappointed.

    I let myself talk myself into thinking "the only reason you think you are ahead, is because this guy is an ass" I couldn't pin him on a hand, as I thought he would have raised with AQ or KQ, any decent pair. He wasn't the type to play 6 5, so I figured it could be a set of 66's or 5's, but most probably JQ, maybe QK
    He surely knew I hit the flop as I hadn't played a hand in an hour.

    So I folded, showing him the Q, and he showed me AK.

    That left me a dead duck, and I went out 20 mins later when I moved with blinds at 400/800 my last 2800-3000 with a Suited Ace and got busted.

    I really got decent hands early on, but really poor cards after break, not even connected..... but that fold was the defining point of the night, if I had called, I was back in the pack with 10K

    Wimpish fold you think?

    The steak pie was lovely though.

    Ouch - I would have gone all-in preflop with QT there :).

    Push baby PUSH


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,221 ✭✭✭Davey Devil


    It giveth then it take it away it.

    I'm shortstacked near the bubble, push in the small blind no limpers with the monster that is 34 off. Macker calls in the BB with pocket nines. Ooops. Flop brings and open ender followed by an obliging ace on the turn to make the wheel. Cue obligitory dance up the card room. Macker made the money too so I didn't feel too bad.

    13 to go 23,000, blinds 1500/3000 Oscar pushes all-in for 17,000, I've pocket Kings. Oscar had A10 and the dealer had the kindness to get it over quickly by bringing the Ace on the flop. Down to 6,000 I was pretty much dead and ended up getting it in with 3's, game over.

    Just have to give a mention to the structure which has greatly improved. I felt that there was much more play than usual. Well done to The Fitz on getting it sorted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    It giveth then it take it away with.

    I'm shortstacked near the bubble, push in the small blind no limpers with the monster that is 34 off. Macker calls in the BB with pocket nines. Ooops. Flop brings and open ender followed by an obliging ace on the turn to make the wheel. Cue obligitory dance up the card room. Macker made the money too so I didn't feel too bad.

    13 to go 23,000, blinds 1500/3000 Oscar pushes all-in for 17,000, I've pocket Kings. Oscar had A10 and the dealer had the kindness to get it over quickly by bringing the Ace on the flop. Down to 6,000 I was pretty much dead and ended up getting it in with 3's, game over.

    Just have to give a mention to the structure which has greatly improved. I felt that their was much more play than usual. Well done to The Fitz on getting it sorted.

    Ah that was you, so you were involved in the KJV's1010/JJv's my AA madness.

    very unlucky with the kings


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 161 ✭✭pokypoky


    ah culchie, were u the freeroll bubbler? yeah it would have been a good laydown if i had A9 but i didnt i always have sympathy for the bubbler though, it soooooooo annoying. Highlight of the evening's poker was the pie lowlight was the evenings poker. I sat in my chair and folded folded folded all in double up folded folded folded. I only played one nice hand which isnt nice enough to post. Somehow i survived to around the bubble of the bubble and lost a race...pretty diappointing in all but i was at some difficult very agressive tables and i think the agression made me into a bit of a rock(pussy). disappointing to see how the whole tourney was resolved in the end, QJ...wtf.

    chinese poker is the devil


Advertisement