getting caught downloading mp3's

dbnavan

Ok so we all it's illegal and we shouldnt do it, but I found a song I have been looking for for ages on cd and cant find so yes I took it off limewire, I know there is little or no chance of getting in trouble for 1 song, but how is it monitored?

bounty

the riaa have a huge subterrain facility similar to the batcave, where they monitor all p2p activity on earth

Irishpimpdude

bounty wrote:

the riaa have a huge subterrain facility similar to the batcave, where they monitor all p2p activity on earth

yeah i know! its amazing how they can monitor illigal downloads but not stop them ;-)!

Airblazer

dbnavan wrote:

Ok so we all it's illegal and we shouldnt do it, but I found a song I have been looking for for ages on cd and cant find so yes I took it off limewire, I know there is little or no chance of getting in trouble for 1 song, but how is it monitored?

Limewire???
I can't believe people are still using this spyway and adware piece of shiit...
haven't u ppl heard of torrents?? a lot safer than using limware,bearshare etc

dbnavan

Airblazer wrote:

Limewire???
I can't believe people are still using this spyway and adware piece of shiit...
haven't u ppl heard of torrents?? a lot safer than using limware,bearshare etc

Quote from Download.com.
LimeWire continues its guarantee of no adware or spyware. Version 4.10.5

Skud

aren't torrents more illegal because of the compulsary uploading? Well more dangerous. Use peerguardian if you are worried, stops some ip addresses but I don't think there is 100% way of hiding your activities. Not that you were asking

RobertFoster

dbnavan wrote:

Ok so we all it's illegal and we shouldnt do it, but I found a song I have been looking for for ages on cd and cant find so yes I took it off limewire, I know there is little or no chance of getting in trouble for 1 song, but how is it monitored?

What was the song?

Random

RobertFoster wrote:

What was the song?

Don't tell him! He's in the batcave and checking the p2p logs as we speak! He's in league with boards.ie admins for your ip too! You're doomed! Run! LEave the country!


p.s. I use Limewire Pro ( ) and it's dam good.

Endurance Man

Airblazer wrote:

Limewire???
I can't believe people are still using this spyway and adware piece of shiit...
haven't u ppl heard of torrents?? a lot safer than using limware,bearshare etc

That torrent crap is a pain in the ass! They just took limewire and made it 10X more confusing for no apparent reason, all sorts of port opening ect.... Why could they not just make it simple? It baffles me. I have gone through loads and loads of programs and worked them out over a few hours, iv spent days with that ****e and still cant get it right!
Limewire ftw :eek:

zAbbo

Only newbs use p2p, nntp is where its at.

Mutant_Fruit

You do realise that Limewire needs port forwarding to work properly aswell...

Random

Limewire requires one port forwarded, a nice simple task

Endurance Man

Mutant_Fruit wrote:

You do realise that Limewire needs port forwarding to work properly aswell...

Well iv never messed with any of that and mine works like a dream .

Kintarō Hattori

I've tried Bit Torrent and Emule and found the best of them for MP3's was Limewire! Simple to use and no waiting around for hours in queue's.

Sauron

Limewire is fine for the odd song or two imo...

but bittorrent is better for files of.... a larger variety..

dbnavan

Thread has lost topic main question is how are you caught, from what I can figure out it easier to catch sharers rather then downloaders.

Random

Yeh, they do seem (at the moment) more interested in people uploading this content.

So this would point toward P2P apps such as Limewire as "less dangerous" then using BitTorrent where you are obliged to upload too.

Ruu_Old

For all the trouble you are in for from the interweb poleece, it better have been a good song!

astrofool

Latest versions of bit torrent support UPnP which basically removes the need for port forwarding (on UPnP supporting routers).

tom_ass19

wats the bloody song, i prob have it, ill bloody post it to you if ur that feckin worried!!

DingChavez

eo980 wrote:

I've tried Bit Torrent and Emule and found the best of them for MP3's was Limewire! Simple to use and no waiting around for hours in queue's.

well, emule is supposed to be slow, hence the name.. It's just good at finding stuff that you wouldn't on limewire. Like some really rare song or something.

Torrents are best for larger apps/Albums

hobie

wats the bloody song, i prob have it, ill bloody post it to you if ur that feckin worried!!

Wish i had a friend like that ......


I had a copy of 'Treaty' by 'Yothu Yindi' years ago using $$$$$$$ ..... I could have got 500 copies from guys all over the $$$$ world if I wanted to ...

anyway .... the old Pc went to God and only recently have I tried to a get a legal copy ..... I down loaded the new Napster and when I tried to use it it told me I lived in Ireland ($$$$$$$ clever these computers!!!!:eek:)
and to $$$ off ... Napster don't service Ireland ..... $$$$ great ....

so then I down loaded I.Tunes last night ..... found some Yothu Yindi songs but no bleedin 'Treaty' !!!! (unless I'm looking in the wrong $$$$ place .....

and all I want is a bleedin copy of Treaty .....

Norfork Nights

Downloading is BAD:p

buy it on gemm.com:)

dazftw

Bearshare ftw ! Is this talk not allowed ? Because I need a certain file haha

Capt'n Midnight

sneakernet FTW

peepsbates

Endurance Man wrote:

Well iv never messed with any of that and mine works like a dream .

same as....never had to do a thing with it

Sully

I cant use Bittoreent due to a non-fixable "NAT" Error lol

ShevY

usenet ffs

smeggle

Why folk still use any of these is beyond me - 'News Groups' are the best and allways have been..

But staying with the main topic..I read a month or so back on how they track data transferals. It's done by one company and the likes of the rear end etc get there results from them via purchasing it. Theythen look for the high spikes within that data and isolate the pockets that relate to high file tranfer from specific i.p's to multiple i.p's.

Of course the geo-graphical location of those i.p's also play a big part in it. But that does not mean you won't get caught. The trick is (In Limewire) where you have to share at least one or two files so as not to be deemed a scrounger, is to only share something you have created, can be anything, an mp3 of you waxing lyrically, a .doc full of nonsence poetry whatever as long as it's yours. Keep changing the file name periodically as well to some nonsence word that will not get many hits..

You are not breeching copyright and it's the uploaders there mainly after as it's easier to catch them so you can 'Hide' sort of in amongst the riff-raff of traffic..

Proxies help but these have to be done carefully cause quite a lot are now covers set up by the likes of yon 'rear end' boys, (well the riaa are a bunch of rear ends lol)...

one of the better places is associated to 'Hacker Eliminator' (Thats all I'm saying on that - *coughs* google - *whistles angelically* )

Not that I in anyway condone the 'Illegal' sharing of files and prefer to use legal methods such as the prog in my sig or even better - to get 'News Reports' (snigger) from 'News Groups' - nothing illegal in recieving 'News' now is there? They have brilliant 'News' on Stargate, Star Trek, Battle Star, Futurama and music and the likes in those places lol All up to date as well..

Much prefer to get the 'News' than be accused of stealing something after all is said and done

AARRRGH

dbnavan wrote:

Ok so we all it's illegal and we shouldnt do it, but I found a song I have been looking for for ages on cd and cant find so yes I took it off limewire, I know there is little or no chance of getting in trouble for 1 song, but how is it monitored?

Technically incorrect. Downloading is perfectly legal. Uploading is illegal.

To answer your question about how it is monitored - I believe they place files on the network and then monitor who is downloading them.

However, they only monitor certain services.

I don't believe they are monitoring torrent users. Anyway, a recent case in Ireland resulted in a non-conviction for downloading via bittorrent. So it is very up in the air at the moment.

...

A solution to your problem might be to set up a wireless network and make it unsecured so anyone can use it. Maybe someone else used your connection to download the file? Not sure how this would stand up in court. But obviously it's the wrong and bad thing to do...

Mutant_Fruit

dublindude wrote:

Technically incorrect. Downloading is perfectly legal. Uploading is illegal.

Quote me the relevant passage in irish/european law that states that it's legal to download copyrighted material.

peterk19

hobie wrote:

Wish i had a friend like that ......


I had a copy of 'Treaty' by 'Yothu Yindi' years ago using $$$$$$$ ..... I could have got 500 copies from guys all over the $$$$ world if I wanted to ...

anyway .... the old Pc went to God and only recently have I tried to a get a legal copy ..... I down loaded the new Napster and when I tried to use it it told me I lived in Ireland ($$$$$$$ clever these computers!!!!:eek:)
and to $$$ off ... Napster don't service Ireland ..... $$$$ great ....

so then I down loaded I.Tunes last night ..... found some Yothu Yindi songs but no bleedin 'Treaty' !!!! (unless I'm looking in the wrong $$$$ place .....

and all I want is a bleedin copy of Treaty .....

That song is on Morpheus i mainly use bit torrent myself for stuff but i like to have limewire and morpheus installed for those hard to find things
Pete

axer

smeggle wrote:

But staying with the main topic..I read a month or so back on how they track data transferals. It's done by one company and the likes of the rear end etc get there results from them via purchasing it. Theythen look for the high spikes within that data and isolate the pockets that relate to high file tranfer from specific i.p's to multiple i.p's.

Of course the geo-graphical location of those i.p's also play a big part in it. But that does not mean you won't get caught. The trick is (In Limewire) where you have to share at least one or two files so as not to be deemed a scrounger, is to only share something you have created, can be anything, an mp3 of you waxing lyrically, a .doc full of nonsence poetry whatever as long as it's yours. Keep changing the file name periodically as well to some nonsence word that will not get many hits..

I would love to read that article about how they can track data transferals and prove that the uploader infringed on someones copyright.

Wouldnt it be the case that an uploader could only be caught for sharing the files that the prosecution/PI actually downloaded from the user. As I could have a list of files being shared that are named after tracks e.g. "eminem - when i'm gone.mp3" but the file even though it is called that may not actually contain the copyright infringing material. Even with the logs that they get from eircom etc that show the transaction of said song (filename & size of file) from the IP address of the uploading offender to the prosecution/PI - who is to say that the actual file contains the copyright infringing material the uploader is being sued over? The uploader can create a file of ANY size using software and the logs of eircom etc. to the best of my knowledge would not show the result of CRC checks needed to prove that it was in fact the same file.

Khannie

For f*ck sake lads. You all know that this kind of conversation isn't kosher.